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So @JamesTand @blaaacdoommmmfanI finally got around to listening to Saxon’s latest album Carpe Diem! And just as I expected I love it! Listened to it 3 times through on my day off, really solid album yet again so many good riffs, Incredible how good they still sound Biff sounds great, I especially love the title track, Age of Steam, Dambusters, Remember the Fallen and Supernova, but there isn’t a bad track on the album!

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CULT OF LUNA  - The Long Road North. I like this band. I think I have all their albums, but on first listen to this album - same as on their last one - there is no stand out song. Nothing that really grabbed me. I think they would be great live, but I think they need a shake up.

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33 minutes ago, H34VYM3T4LD4V3 said:

So @JamesTand @blaaacdoommmmfanI finally got around to listening to Saxon’s latest album Carpe Diem! And just as I expected I love it! Listened to it 3 times through on my day off, really solid album yet again so many good riffs, Incredible how good they still sound Biff sounds great, I especially love the title track, Age of Steam, Dambusters, Remember the Fallen and Supernova, but there isn’t a bad track on the album!

Alright, having been a big Saxon fan in the last century I guess your exclamation points must have gotten to me, and in a moment of madness I dialed up the new Saxon record on Youtube just to see what they're up to these days. This is not my usual sort of thing obviously, I don't really ever listen to 21st century heavy metal. But I will say that if I was ever to find myself in the mood for some throwback traditional heavy metal that even while this is a wee bit cheesy at times (especially lyrically, as if maybe Mr Byford's creative well has run a bit dry) it's still way better than anything fellow septuagenarians Judas Priest have done over the last 35 years or so. 

 

NP: Overkill - Wrecking Everything: An Evening In Asbury Park NJ March 23, 2002

 

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SiJ -Zærtinágose. Six hours of ambience. Something to come back to over the next few days...

Oh Lord I'm ready, just send me straight to Hell now

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Alright, having been a big Saxon fan in the last century I guess your exclamation points must have gotten to me, and in a moment of madness I dialed up the new Saxon record on Youtube just to see what they're up to these days. This is not my usual sort of thing obviously, I don't really ever listen to 21st century heavy metal. But I will say that if I was ever to find myself in the mood for some throwback traditional heavy metal that even while this is a wee bit cheesy at times (especially lyrically, as if maybe Mr Byford's creative well has run a bit dry) it's still way better than anything fellow septuagenarians Judas Priest have done over the last 35 years or so. 

 

NP: Overkill - Wrecking Everything: An Evening In Asbury Park NJ March 23, 2002

 

Oh Lord I'm ready, just send me straight to Hell now

Agreed, and I love Saxon and Priest, but the lyrical cheesiness just doesn't jive these days. I can put up with it on the classic albums, but on newer stuff it's a hard pass. I know we had this debate more than once on MFi, but for my money the first 2 albums and EP by Def Leppard are the best example of NWOBHM. Lots of good 1 off albums, but I would put Saxon (first 4) at 3 behind Maiden (first 2 only). Course, I'm slightly drunk at the moment, so take that with a grain of salt.

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42 minutes ago, navybsn said:

Agreed, and I love Saxon and Priest, but the lyrical cheesiness just doesn't jive these days. I can put up with it on the classic albums, but on newer stuff it's a hard pass. I know we had this debate more than once on MFi, but for my money the first 2 albums and EP by Def Leppard are the best example of NWOBHM. Lots of good 1 off albums, but I would put Saxon (first 4) at 3 behind Maiden (first 2 only). Course, I'm slightly drunk at the moment, so take that with a grain of salt.

I would rank those high profile nwobhm bands you just mentioned as follows:

1. Saxon (not the debut but the next 4, '80 - '83) 

2. Priest (the 5 albums from '78-'84)

3. Def Leffid (1st 2 only, '80 &' 81) 

4. Maiden (1st 4, '80 - '83) 

If I were to add Motörhead they'd be my clear #1 and Tank would come after Priest but ahead of Def Leffid and Iron Maiden. Just about any other nwobhm bands I can think of from that era were one-offs.

 

 

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Def Leppard - First Strike

Def Leppard - On Through the Night

 

The only stuff I like from them haha although High and Dry is pretty good too

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Alright, having been a big Saxon fan in the last century I guess your exclamation points must have gotten to me, and in a moment of madness I dialed up the new Saxon record on Youtube just to see what they're up to these days. This is not my usual sort of thing obviously, I don't really ever listen to 21st century heavy metal. But I will say that if I was ever to find myself in the mood for some throwback traditional heavy metal that even while this is a wee bit cheesy at times (especially lyrically, as if maybe Mr Byford's creative well has run a bit dry) it's still way better than anything fellow septuagenarians Judas Priest have done over the last 35 years or so. 

I really don’t mind the cheesy lyrics to be honest, I like a lot of the stories Biff writes into the songs like Conquistador from Metalhead, Made in Belfast from Sacrifice and Secret of Flight from Thunderbolt, I definitely get yours and @navybsn’s point, but It doesn’t really bother me much as the music in general sounds just awesome to me solid heavy metal, and to be fair I think the lyrics suit the music most of the time maybe apart from the odd one that sticks out. Also yeah I agree Priest haven’t had much over the years but I do think Redeemer of Souls definitely had its moments like Halls of Valhalla or Battle Cry, Jugulator is better than anything they’ve done since the reunion though 100% but saying that I think even priest have done better than Maiden in modern times, (I so still love all of them though but Book of Souls is the best thing Maiden did since Brave new World in my book .)

 

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I would rank those high profile nwobhm bands you just mentioned as follows:

1. Saxon (not the debut but the next 4, '80 - '83) 

2. Priest (the 5 albums from '78-'84)

3. Def Leffid (1st 2 only, '80 &' 81) 

4. Maiden (1st 4, '80 - '83) 

If I were to add Motörhead they'd be my clear #1 and Tank would come after Priest but ahead of Def Leffid and Iron Maiden. Just about any other nwobhm bands I can think of from that era were one-offs.

Always good to see Tank get a mention! I love them, have all of their albums :D my fave is probably Honour and Blood.

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The only stuff I like from them haha although High and Dry is pretty good too

I'm good with them through Hysteria, but only for sentimental reasons. Hysteria hit when I was 13. I had pretty basic taste in music at that point. I remember hearing that record a gajillion times. It was on everywhere you went. Doesn't really stand up that well these days, but enjoyable now and then for a spin. Leaving out sentimental bullshit, I'd stop at Pyromania.

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Dream Unending - Tide Turns Eternal  ...happy I waited for the right time to go back to this one. The moody ambient atmospheric stuff dominates a bit too much for my taste sometimes, but they do a great job integrating those textures with their melodic death-doom in a way that makes everything more engaging. Could see this appealing to @RelentlessOblivion and @True Belief if you guys haven't heard it already.

 

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16 hours ago, H34VYM3T4LD4V3 said:

So @JamesTand @blaaacdoommmmfanI finally got around to listening to Saxon’s latest album Carpe Diem! And just as I expected I love it! Listened to it 3 times through on my day off, really solid album yet again so many good riffs, Incredible how good they still sound Biff sounds great, I especially love the title track, Age of Steam, Dambusters, Remember the Fallen and Supernova, but there isn’t a bad track on the album!

Awesome man!  Yep, totally agree!  It's just a fantastic album all the way through.  It's probably not as outright heavy as "Thunderbolt", but it's just as good in my opinion.  It's nothing short of amazing that they're still cranking out material this top-notch after so many years. Rock on!

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I'm good with them through Hysteria, but only for sentimental reasons. Hysteria hit when I was 13. I had pretty basic taste in music at that point. I remember hearing that record a gajillion times. It was on everywhere you went. Doesn't really stand up that well these days, but enjoyable now and then for a spin. Leaving out sentimental bullshit, I'd stop at Pyromania.

I was 21 when Pyromania came out January 20, 1983 just a week after Exciter's Heavy Metal Maniacs. Their first two records had been good so I bought the record and I played it but I think we can all agree 39 years later that their brand of vacuous Splenda pop-rock hasn't held up well at all, except for maybe with a certain subset of nostalgic middle aged mom types. If I never heard F-F-F-Foolin' ever again I'd be totally cool with that. Never bought anything of theirs after Pyro because of course '83 was the year thrash metal arrived with Kill 'Em all dropping in July and then Show No Mercy in December. Not to mention Fate's Melissa which rose from the depths in October and while not thrash, it was still pretty badass. 

 

I seem to be stuck in a Solitude Aeturnus loop, I can't help myself. Finally have a chance to sit down for 90 minutes and listen to some music for a little bit before I have to go out at 2:30 and I just go right back to where I was last night. Love this album. For anyone not familiar they're like Candlemass and get the 'epic doom' tag but they sound a bit more American, from Texas. Vocalist Rob Lowe actually did a stint in Candlemass about 10 - 15 years back. 

Through the Darkest Hour 

 

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