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  1. Blasphemathory - War, Blasphemy & Divine Destruction Bolt Thrower - Those Once Loyal Sentient Divide - Haunted By Cruelty
    6 points
  2. Finally saw a metal show again, first time since we moved last summer. Local show in a really tiny venue an hour and a half away in Burlington. None of it is stuff I would listen to at home, but it was super fun to just be in a room with loud music and people jumping around.
    6 points
  3. WFH day, so massive playlist incoming. I would throw in some Anti-Cimex, Discharge, or Wolfbrigade in honor of our dear leafy green vegetable, but I've already done the work to put the playlist together. Akercocke - Choronzon - FA and I both thinking about getting some 'cocke today Akercocke - Renaissance in Extremis Hulder - Verses in Oath Inquisition - Veneration Inquisition - Black Mass Marduk - Panzer Division Marduk DHG - Black Medium Current The Antichrist Imperium - Vol 2: Every Tongue Shall Praise Satan Black Angel - The Black Truth Judas Iscariot - Heaven Shall Burn Horna - Vuohipaimen
    5 points
  4. As it goes - opinions are like assholes, everyone has a shitty one... Most of what I would consider "perfect" or "unskippable" I'm sure would fall out of your wheelhouse and most likely the opposite is true. NBD. Fortunately, we both passed the metalhead certification test years ago. Enslaved - Mardraum
    4 points
  5. You like to play the part of the rube, but anyone that reads your posts know that you are highly intelligent. We've engaged in a range of convos on your takes on history, left wing politics to the complexities of economics. You like language and culture. So, don't play the knuckle dragger with me! Your tastes are questionable, you like to instigate debate and can be annoying AF at times but your intellect is not in questions, sir. We have vastly different views on lyrics. Here's what I would say on the subject-first off, metal lyrics by and large don't add much. That said, in regards to extreme metal they sometimes help draw me into the world of the artist. You don't need to read the lyrics to The Ramones or Judas Priest. And most extreme metal lyrics are a throw away, but I've found that some artists really take the time to put a great deal of thought into their lyrics. It's an odd thing-introspective lyrics that no one can understand-but that's part of the riddle of extreme metal. Most artists want success. Extreme metal is the opposite. There are self imposed barriers to limit entry like the code to get into khazad-dum. It requires effort on the part of the listener. In a way, that's part of the appeal. That's partly why I like physical media. I'll typically take a few minutes to look at the artwork and the lyrics and often don't read past the first couple of tracks. But, I just figure songs are combination of music and words and artists, no matter how primitive might want to say something or at minimum create an atmosphere where language plays some part. BM in particular has a way of taking the listener to other dimensions where the artwork and sometimes the lyrics can add to the mystique they try to envelope the listener in. Extreme metal can be complex and dense and the lyrics can be used to punctuate a point in the prose or storyline if there is one. Beginning with Metallica and Anthrax per my listening, those artists were making great music but also talking about real societal things-racism, the criminal justice system, mental health drug addiction, the futility of war. Lemmy was actually an underrated lyricism. Beyond the sex, drugs and rock and roll culture of many of his songs, his lyrics were often hilarious and quite poignant writing about his disgust at the wealthy and powerful, disingenuity of elitists, his intolerance of the lies hoisted upon all of us by those that pull the strings in our world, the stupidity of war and and religion. Ihashn wrote some really interesting stuff on Anthems that took the power of their symphonic black metal and fused it with more than Satanism-but with occult mysticism that was genius for a teenager. I know you're not an Opeth fan, Mikael Åkerfeldt basically wrote dark poetry that he set to music. I can't imagine listening to Blackwater Park or Ghost Reveries without taking a peek at the lyrics. He's a great example of using extreme metal to punctuate his lyrical themes. Neurosis is another band who took wild, ambitious ideas both sonically and lyrically using samples and ideas from myth and psychology. Arioch (both with Funeral Mist and Marduk) does some pretty intelligent things to the old Satanic tropes of BM inverting Christianity with some twisted shit. DSO is famous for their existential essays posed as intellectual Satanism set to music. I've noticed in recent years that DM sometimes brings in elements of eastern religion, particularly Buddhism and bands like Vastum (and definitely doomy post metal bands like Subrosa) pull from literature and in Vastum's case write some twisted, thought provoking disturbing shit. I know you don't have any interest in any of that stuff, but my point is in a small percentage of metal, the time and talent put into lyrics enrich my enjoyment. It's like the dead sea scrolls or the Davinci code-only available to those that put the effort into deciphering secret runes. Enough said!
    4 points
  6. Seems I might've erroneously assumed that because of your propensity to defend ancient has-been legacy bands including Judas Pweest, Megastaine and Anthrax from nay-sayers, and because of your being an old thrash metal aficionado just one year younger than me, that you would quite likely have been a Pweest fan back in the day. So then what were you listening to back in your teenage years and those early 80's days just before thrash metal hit the scene? There aren't any rules Orca, I don't believe in rules. Put whichever and however many Pweest songs on the list that you want to, based on any criteria you'd like. Or don't make a list at all if you've really never been into the band and don't have any favorite Pweest songs. I don't really care that much about Pweest myself tbh or most of these 40 - 50 year old legacy bands for that matter. I just figured Pweest are one of those bands that most of us older metal dudes would likely have in common from back in the days when there weren't so many different sub-genres and not so many heavy bands to choose from out there. I can't talk to old guys like you about black metal or deathgrind, or even make jokes about it, you get all cranky and go ad hominem on me. So I was trying to engage you on a neutral playing field, maybe find some common ground we could build on. Same reason I'll often weigh in on Megastaine, Metallica or Maiden convos. I don't give two shits about most those old dinosaur mainstream metal bands anymore, but they were undeniably a big part of my 80's metal upbringing so I have enough background knowledge about their music still kicking around in my head somewhere that I can hold my own in a convo. Because it's a forum, we have to talk about something, or else Cabbie will come and make a remark about how quiet it is in here today. Monster Magnet - Dopes to Infinty, space rock out of Red Bank New Jersey 1995
    4 points
  7. There you have it... even their fans admit the music puts them to sleep
    4 points
  8. Alrighty then. I dismissed Hate Eternal years ago as one of those boring American one-dimensional rapid-fire blasty-blast death metal bands that just aren't for me. But you and JT just keep bringing them up. You just can't stop yourselves. So I guess the time has come for the old goat to revisit them. You say this is your favorite Hate Eternal album, so I'm going in, wish me luck. #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# Well ok I'm back. They're not quite as bad as I'd remembered, not terrible at all. There were even a few spots where I almost found myself enjoying this. Almost. Vocals aren't annoying or anything, but they're really not that good either, they're just there. These horribly clickety rapid-fire drums definitely aren't good at all, that's the worst part of this for me. The overdubbed guitar solos seem weird and out of place and take my head out of the song. These songs aren't memorable, can't hum along with any of them, and they all have the exact same rapid-fire tempo that becomes a blur. This became quite tedious by like track 3 or 4. I won't say I hate them eternally, but this style of death metal semble fastidieux et ennuyeux. Makes me a bit curious as to why people who don't listen to a ton of death metal like you and JT would latch onto this band out of all death metal bands. Leprosy or Cause of Death this is not. What's the main appeal here? It's not overly accessible, it's not very melodic, it's not particularly brutal, it's not breakdown city, it's not dynamic, riffs don't stick in your head, totally one-dimensional. They're not really bad, any one song taken on its own is reasonably listenable, but a whole album full of these is just not good. It's unremarkable, middle of the road, generic American rapid-fire clickety drum death metal that I'll forget as soon as I go downstairs to make coffee. They'd be serviceable as an opening band maybe, acceptable background noise for while I'm over at the bar purchasing a tasty cold beverage. Don't see these dudes as headline material. NP: Siniser - Hate, Netherlands 1995. Another legacy band I haven't spent a ton of time with, but right from track 1 this is far more interesting to me than Hate Eternal.
    4 points
  9. Judas Priest - Defenders of the Faith (1984)
    4 points
  10. Messiah - Christus Hypercubus Disgrace - Grey Misery Ripping Corpse - Unreleased 2nd Album
    4 points
  11. Scorpions - Animal Magnetism (1980)
    4 points
  12. Ripping Corpse - Dreaming with the Dead (1991)
    4 points
  13. Bolt Thrower - Realm of Chaos (1989)
    4 points
  14. Before: Akercocke - Renaissance In Extremis Cryfemal - Apoteosis Oculta Incantation - Mortal Throne Of Nazarene NP: Grave Miasma - Endless Pilgrimage
    4 points
  15. Sadus - Swallowed in Black (1990)
    4 points
  16. Under the sign of the black mark (1987) - bathory Deathcrush (1987) - mayhem In the nightside eclipse (1994) - emperor
    4 points
  17. Cannibal Corpse - Chaos Horrific (2023) This. Absolutely this. More is less for my brain and always has been. It is not always necessarily brand new releases though, the same applies for aything new to my ears, in order to truly appreciate it needs to be drip fed.
    4 points
  18. I try to pay attention to how much I can actually enjoy and digest properly. I talk a lot about burnout and that happens pretty easily for me, but the other path I can go down if I'm not careful is the endless stream of content - listening to everything, forming quick takes, but not really absorbing anything. I find I can alternate between maybe two or three new albums over the course of a month or two, as far as really paying attention and taking in what they have to offer. Any more than that and I start losing what I care about in the experience. So basically my listening habit is like it was when I was a teenager and could only afford a couple albums at a time, except I have to try to purposely keep it that way. I also find that being online at all while I'm listening is really disruptive to the experience, it turns music into background noise. That's hard to manage sometimes. NP - Blut Aus Nord - Disharmonium: Nahab
    4 points
  19. navybsn

    What's on your mind?

    For sure. We don't get to choose of course, but no one would opt for that. I've had several family members make it into their 90's. All relatively independent and fully functioning until the last few months. As soon as I have to rely on others to complete the activities of daily living (ADLs), I'm ready to go. As someone who's almost died twice, you're never really ready. Always want a little more time. Best strategy is just to live every day like it's your last. Rather than advanced condolences, congrats to the old girl on a life well lived.
    4 points
  20. Took a day off work today after spending some of the weekend keeping vigil at my 97 year old grandmother's (eventual) death bed side. Cold but sunny day here so perfect day for a long walk. I don't want to live to be 97, surely such a big number deserves some option to go out on your own terms, not get eaten away by cancer and die high on morphine whilst soiling yourself.
    4 points
  21. Goatwarming. Word of the week, maybe of the month.
    4 points
  22. Time Ghoul riding My Little Pony
    3 points
  23. Monster Magnet... now I can get down with that. Let's throw on some Tab and Spine of God. JP playlist game: Winter/Deep Freeze Victim of Changes Call for the Priest/Let us Prey Beyond the Realms of Death Delivering the Goods The Rage Heading out to the Highway Screaming for Vengeance The Sentinel Out in the Cold Painkiller Judas Rising Honestly though, I can just throw on everything from Rocka Rolla through Defenders with a few select tracks from everything after and be good. Not my favorite band of all time, but I do listen to quite a bit of JP. I was late to the game on them along with most other late 60's-70's rock. That was my dad's music so I wanted my own stuff. Aside from VH, I was into Twisted Sister, Ratt, Helloween, Maiden, AC/DC, Queensryche, Def Leppard, and of course Rush. Only in the last 6-7 years have I gotten into older Scorpions, BOC, Uriah Heep, Priest etc. All of it is perfectly serviceable and good for a playlist. Rare I want to listen to a full album start to finish. Yes, yes, yes, fuck Weather Report, yes, yes... Throw in some Brand X, Chick Corea, Wayne Shorter, Eric Dolphy, Thelonius Monk, Charles Mingus, Return to Forever, Stanley Clark, John Coltrane, and Al di Meola and call it a day.
    3 points
  24. ....I always liked this song..... SOUNDGARDEN - Get On The Snake
    3 points
  25. I think I'm gonna need to dig out both from the garage and have a listen, because it has been a few years. Superunknown is probably the definitive Soundgarden masterpiece, but I still enjoyed the hell out of Badmotorfinger at the time. I guess it was the wailing Jesus Christ Pose which played (overplayed) endlessly on a student TV station I had a show on - which I love but old goats will hate. Edit: nope, I'm full of shit. Turns out I had both CDs in a pile behind me. I must have got these out a year or so ago...probably on a prompt from the last time Soundgarden came up.
    3 points
  26. Interesting review Cabbie. Problem with grindcore is there are a variety of styles within that sub-genre. I happen to really like a lot of grindcore, guess I've been on a bit of a grindcore kick of late, but I hated this. Hate might be too strong, but I didn't like it. This doesn't sound like the same sub-genre as most of the grindcore I generally listen to. I guess I lean more toward the extreme end of gc and I prefer some death metal mixed in with my grindcore. Not saying Gridlink's been mis-genred, it's definitely grindcore, just not the 'good' grindcore. I will now proceed to go on a grindcore binge this evening. NP: Sickrecy - Salvation Through Tyranny, Sweden 2022 - ahhh, the good grindcore Internal Rot - Grieving Birth, Melbourne Aus 2020 grindcore I understand taste is subjective mec, and I'm not discrediting your love of HE, but I just kept seeing you guys post Hate Eternal over and over so I thought I'd weigh in and offer my thoughts on the matter. Guess I just like the death metal that doesn't put me to sleep, that's all. And yes, we say 'fight tooth and nail' over here as well. Funny I don't like Morbid Angel either, so maybe that whole side of the death metal world is just not for me. Anything with the rapid-fire clickety drums I'm almost always going to pass on. There's just too much other death metal I really like a lot to waste time on stuff I don't. But hey, I'm glad you've found a reliable method to help you get to sleep!
    3 points
  27. Black Reaper - Birth of Extinction Tømhet - Dødsblikket Killing Joke - Killing Joke Vauruvã - Manso Queimor Dacordado
    3 points
  28. Went to Cattle Decapitation on Friday night. The highlight was probably not the gig but meeting up with a mate and going to the pub afterwards until 1am, which is pretty much unheard of for me these days. Luckily I didn't have to get home afterwards, but nearly missed the last northbound tube to where I was staying. Anyway...to the show: I missed the first band but saw the whole set from 200 Stab Wounds. Slave to the Scalpel | 200 Stab Wounds (bandcamp.com) Enjoyable, if unremarkable, fairly old school death metal. As is the curse of opening acts, the guitar tone was pretty muddy so I just concentrated on watching the drummer. By the end of the set the balance was pretty good. I will give this a few listens and probably pick up on a BC Friday. The next band was Signs of the Swarm. Absolvere | Signs of the Swarm | Unique Leader Records (bandcamp.com) Oh dear. I believe this is what the kids call "deathcore." The above link doesn't quite capture what I took away from watching this band live. Every song was a prolonged breakdown. Each breakdown a raging torrent of breakdowns, flooded with rivulets of breakdowns, cascading into a waterfall of more breakdowns. The typewriter drum sound and one trick vocal delivery, interjected with "circle pit" was so distracting I couldn't derive much enjoyment from this. Others around me seemed to "get it" but I was minded of the discussion of Slipknot on that other thread. This is metal made by AI for people that think lots of tattoos and flesh tunnels equate to talent. Tasteless. Earlier in the day I had been genuinely worrying that I was just liking too much stuff I was listening to lately. I have been enjoying the shit out of the likes of post black Underdark and surf rock King Gizzard wondering if I was losing perspective. But this band renewed my faith in misanthropy. The main event, Cattle Decapitation, is a band I hadn't even heard before a few months ago. I had always assumed they were some joke grind band, but the AOTY accolades for Terrasite were too frequent to ignore. I am a convert, and had picked up a few other albums to cram for this gig. Luckily for me, I seem to have picked the albums they decided to pull pretty much the whole set from. There was only one, perhaps two, tracks I did not recognise. I have the same gripe about the drum sound as Signs of Breakdowns mentioned above. Triggered to the point of distraction and outright offense, so that it removes any soul from the kit; I just can't fathom why any band would want this sound. 200 Stab Wounds' drum sound was so much better. Apart from that, CatDecap were great. Vocal delivery was about what I knew it would be - flawed but so difficult to pull off live I was not expecting perfection. Still Travis Ryan is a great front man that did not once feel the need to request a circle pit or wall of death or make any other cliched idiot frontman comment. All class. Lead guitar work is excellent with tasteful solos. Great bass tone. Rhythm guitarist had great hair and tight jeans. From photos, it is obvious that unless I can fly, pics were taken from a balcony which was almost too steep of an angle, but a good vantage point. I stood in the same spot for 3 hours so as not to lose my place. Finished at 11pm which vindicated my decision to stay in London rather than try to get home on a slow train and risk waking up in Crewe or Glasgow. But, as mentioned, highlight of night was probably talking metal with buddy I don't see that often. He'd bought an autographed Terrasite LP, the bastard.
    3 points
  29. I think that is... 1. Darkthrone 2. Evilfeast 3. Marduk 4. Walknut 5. Windhand :)
    3 points
  30. Whilst I doubt anything I have to say will be all of that enlightening I might as well chime in with my two cents on the matter. I wouldn’t say that I hate slipknot, as a band, anyway, I am completely indifferent towards them. I will say, however, that I hate what they represent, because what they represent is the watering down of metal in order to create an image and sound which appeals to the masses. It is the antithesis of the spirit of metal, and it’s not new. We saw the same thing with“hair metal“ in the 80s.
    3 points
  31. Emperor - Wrath of the Tyrant
    3 points
  32. PRONG - Working Man
    3 points
  33. Iron Maiden - Killers (1981)
    3 points
  34. Judas Priest day, as well as Exhorder. I know the excitement level for both around here is huge (and largely denied). NP: Exhorder - Get Rude
    3 points
  35. No idea King Gizz had pumped out another one. Not sure how anyone can keep up with these guys. Seems they drop something every few months. I'll have to check this out. Golgothan Remains - Perverse Offerings to the Void Golgothan Remains - Adorned in Ruin
    3 points
  36. Last two... Goatpenis - Decapitation Philosophy, Brazil 2020 Zeke - Death Alley, Seattle 2001
    3 points
  37. WORLD EATER - An Insidious Remedy
    3 points
  38. Overkill - Taking Over (1987)
    3 points
  39. Some more: New Human (Reissue) by Death This has been in my wishlist for ages but not sure if I actually listened to this mix before. The bass is a lot more prominent and better than the original CD...which I assume I still have in the garage. Fun fact, Human was the first CD I ever bought, back in 1992 with some of the money I was supposed to spend on textbooks for Uni. New Dusk | Subside by Inverloch I've had Distance Collapsed for years and never realised there was an earlier release. Still not been able to stump up $18 for the old diSEMBOWELMENT album, so this is better value at $6.
    3 points
  40. Abigor - Taphonomia Aeternitatis Abigor - Totschläger Mayhem - Chimera Akercocke - Rape Of The Bastard Nazarene
    3 points
  41. navybsn

    What's on your mind?

    I'm unfortunately too familiar with natural disasters of this sort living all my life in Hurricane country. We've managed to dodge most bullets but we still pay dearly for the appropriate homeowners insurance. 5-6K per year (and climbing) for the privilege of fighting with the insurance company and/or pay huge deductibles to get things fixed post storm. The insurance industry as a whole (home, car, health, life etc) is a complete fucking scam. Good thing our complete joke of a governor (Mr. Pudding fingers/White boots himself) has decided to do something about it..../s.
    3 points
  42. Riot - Fire Down Under, 1981 Riot - Restless Breed, 1982 Plasmatics - Coup D'Etat, 1982 ✊
    3 points
  43. Blood Incantation - Starspawn
    3 points
  44. Immortal - Northern Chaos Gods (2018)
    3 points
  45. Tau Cross - Pillar of Fire Tau Cross - Tau Cross Amebix - Sonic Mass Napalm Death - Scum Napalm Death - Harmony Corruption Napalm Death - Throes of Joy Killing Joke - Absolute Dissent Killing Joke - Hosannas
    3 points
  46. Goatwarming? Yeah, baby.
    3 points
  47. I've sampled quite a few Swans albums over the years, don't remember all which ones specifically, he's got so many different albums. Marko's been touting them for years and years. I clicked on a few different ones yesterday then settled on this one because it was exactly what I was looking for. Turned out to be a really good album too. I'll try some more of his, come to think of it I might have actually clicked on Filth yesterday in my search for depressing post punk before settling on White Light. I find it virtually impossible to resist clicking on anything that has the word Filth in the title. But today I'm stuck on The Underground Youth. That was my life changing discovery from yesterday, I simply can't get enough of these guys. They're not metal obviously, but when I'm not metalling or punking it up this is the kind of bleak subdued shit I go for. I could listen to this band all day. The Underground Youth- Low Slow Needle
    3 points
  48. WTF? You might be running a fever. Interesting album tho. NP: Integrity-Howling for the Nightmare Shall Consume (2017) -forget all this retro NWOHM and bogus so called proto metal copycat stuff, many albums from which I, in fact own, if you want to find classic metal, the best stuff is imbedded in extreme metal of one form or another like this Integrity album. WP (was playing): Woe/Quietly, undramatically
    3 points
  49. I probably ran into The Sound around the end of the 80's. They were in the group of bands similar enough to the more well known goth/Post-Punk acts like The Cure, Bauhaus, Joy Division etc but a bit underground for the states. Iirc, I was dating some goth chick who had all sorts of stuff I'd never knew existed. The Sound, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Chameleons, Clan of Xymox, Fields of Nephilim... Some stuck with me, some didn't. The first 3-4 from The Sound are excellent and the live album from 85 is one of the better from that subgenre. Hope little 'Noise gets back on his feet soon. The Cult - Electric Fields of Nephilim - Dawnrazor And Also the Trees - Virus Meadow Depeche Mode - A Broken Frame New Model Army - Ghost of Cain
    3 points
  50. Swans - White Light From the Mouth of Infinity, 1991 Bauhaus - In the Flat Field, 1980
    3 points
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