What's on your mind?

[RelentlessOblivion]

As could I, so instead I’ll just say eat the Rich…

[JonoBlade]

...just waiting on Dead's analysis of Ukraine invasion. War porn!

It just occurred to me, western media is painting Putin as a madman, so why doesn't he just say "let me do what I want or I will nuke you." 

I mean, he is inferring that; so just say it.

What can you actually do to stop a nuclear power? Sanctions? "No thanks, I'll nuke you." 

Seems like we're entering an endgame here. 

My wife is terrified, but she listens to jazz. In these situations I think metal really takes the edge off.

 

 

 

 

[navybsn]

5 minutes ago, JonoBlade said:

...just waiting on Dead's analysis of Ukraine invasion. War porn!

It just occurred to me, western media is painting Putin as a madman, so why doesn't he just say "let me do what I want or I will nuke you." 

I mean, he is inferring that; so just say it.

What can you actually do to stop a nuclear power? Sanctions? "No thanks, I'll nuke you." 

Seems like we're entering an endgame here. 

My wife is terrified, but she listens to jazz. In these situations I think metal really takes the edge off.

 

 

 

 

We are due a full analysis...

Seems we are entering the logical progression of the last few years. Was only a matter of time before one of these knucklefucks took the next step whether it was Russia with one of their previous vassals, China with Taiwan, Pakistan and India, Right vs. Left in the States, etc. I think nuclear conflict is still a low possibility, but massive loss of life , misery, and economic ruin is much more likely than it was last week. I just don't see the gain here though. Gain territory from people who hate you at the cost of your economy and suffering of your people. Makes no sense. I would think that the oligarchs would suffer enough financially that they would exert the appropriate pressure to prevent what is happening now, but what the hell do I know?

Anyway, I agree with you 100%. This is why our dark lord created metal. Nothing else satisfies the weary anxious soul quite like it.

[MacabreEternal]

53 minutes ago, navybsn said:

We are due a full analysis...

Seems we are entering the logical progression of the last few years. Was only a matter of time before one of these knucklefucks took the next step whether it was Russia with one of their previous vassals, China with Taiwan, Pakistan and India, Right vs. Left in the States, etc. I think nuclear conflict is still a low possibility, but massive loss of life , misery, and economic ruin is much more likely than it was last week. I just don't see the gain here though. Gain territory from people who hate you at the cost of your economy and suffering of your people. Makes no sense. I would think that the oligarchs would suffer enough financially that they would exert the appropriate pressure to prevent what is happening now, but what the hell do I know?

Anyway, I agree with you 100%. This is why our dark lord created metal. Nothing else satisfies the weary anxious soul quite like it.

I doubt any big red buttons get pressed also.  For all the cock comparisons going on right now none of NATO are putting troops on the ground in Ukraine.  More a case of "Ukraine?  Here's some bullets and guns to fire them with.  Best of luck.  We'll be in Estonia and Lithuania, watching!"

[JonoBlade]

38 minutes ago, MacabreEternal said:

I doubt any big red buttons get pressed also.  For all the cock comparisons going on right now none of NATO are putting troops on the ground in Ukraine.  More a case of "Ukraine?  Here's some bullets and guns to fire them with.  Best of luck.  We'll be in Estonia and Lithuania, watching!"

Yeah, that is my point though. Being a nuclear power enables you to act with impunity, except for invading another nuclear power. I mean, America has been doing it for years. The world may as well be carved up right now according to who has nuclear weapons or not. Fatty Jong-Un has the right idea.

It's amazing it has taken this long to figure it out. I guess it is just down to the last world war being barely in living memory anymore. History always repeats but before the last war the option for total annihilation was not on the table. 

1 hour ago, navybsn said:

We are due a full analysis...

Seems we are entering the logical progression of the last few years. Was only a matter of time before one of these knucklefucks took the next step whether it was Russia with one of their previous vassals, China with Taiwan, Pakistan and India, Right vs. Left in the States, etc. I think nuclear conflict is still a low possibility, but massive loss of life , misery, and economic ruin is much more likely than it was last week. I just don't see the gain here though. Gain territory from people who hate you at the cost of your economy and suffering of your people. Makes no sense. I would think that the oligarchs would suffer enough financially that they would exert the appropriate pressure to prevent what is happening now, but what the hell do I know?

Anyway, I agree with you 100%. This is why our dark lord created metal. Nothing else satisfies the weary anxious soul quite like it.

China will be looking on with interest. Assuming it decides it has taken enough of the world's wealth by allowing greedy western cunts to get all their products made there at the expense of their own working class and industrial base, there is literally nothing to stop China invading Taiwan and Japan to test all the weapons they've been building.  

The mainstream commentary certainly agrees that Putin's strategy doesn't make any sense. There is no reality in which this ends well for him.

 

[GoatmasterGeneral]

3 hours ago, navybsn said:

We are due a full analysis...

Seems we are entering the logical progression of the last few years. Was only a matter of time before one of these knucklefucks took the next step whether it was Russia with one of their previous vassals, China with Taiwan, Pakistan and India, Right vs. Left in the States, etc. I think nuclear conflict is still a low possibility, but massive loss of life , misery, and economic ruin is much more likely than it was last week. I just don't see the gain here though. Gain territory from people who hate you at the cost of your economy and suffering of your people. Makes no sense. I would think that the oligarchs would suffer enough financially that they would exert the appropriate pressure to prevent what is happening now, but what the hell do I know?

Anyway, I agree with you 100%. This is why our dark lord created metal. Nothing else satisfies the weary anxious soul quite like it.

Russia has more than enough territory. Ukraine has massive amounts of natural resources. Massive ammounts of natural gas, 1.09 trillion cubic meters, second only to Norways 1.53 tcm, as well as petroleum. Ukraine is also the leading nation for reserves of iron (one fifth of the world's total iron) coal, titanium, manganese and other non-metallic raw materials. So just like the Gulf War was the West needing to secure the Arabian oil, this is Russia attempting to secure Ukraine's natural resources. End of story.

 

[navybsn]

1 minute ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Russia has more than enough territory. Ukraine has massive amounts of natural resources. Massive ammounts of natural gas, 1.09 trillion cubic meters, second only to Norways 1.53 tcm, as well as petroleum. Ukraine is also the leading nation for reserves of iron (one fifth of the world's total iron) coal, titanium, manganese and other non-metallic raw materials. So just like the Gulf War was the West needing to secure the Arabian oil, this is Russia attempting to secure Ukraine's natural resources. End of story.

 

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

[GoatmasterGeneral]

Our cell phones and computers cannot currently be made without using many precious metals and minerals that are in much shorter supply than oil and fossil fuels will ever be in ours or even in our great grandchildren's lifetimes. Copper, tellurium, lithium, cobalt, manganese, tungsten...the list goes on. Your average smart phone contains up to 62 different types of metals. Not to mention silicon. Can't make any of this shit without that. These materials are now rapidly becoming more vital and valuable than fossil fuels.

[navybsn]

And woe to any 3rd world shithole that has them in abundance...

[RelentlessOblivion]

Someone hit the reset buttons, I think humanity is soft locked. Seriously are we just hard wired for conflict or something?

[Hungarino]

35 minutes ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

Someone hit the reset buttons, I think humanity is soft locked. Seriously are we just hard wired for conflict or something?

One could even say we are hardwired...to self destruct

[eternalcrypt]

so....are we gonna have a WW3 here?

[AlSymerz]

I doubt it will get to a WW3 situation.

For starters Australia can't afford to get over there, with the bowser price skyrocketing we can't afford to refuel our ships. New Zealand will be in a similar position. Now if we had a ship that ran on bullshit our politicians could power it for eternity!

 

[MacabreEternal]

14 minutes ago, eternalcrypt said:

so....are we gonna have a WW3 here?

Come on, read the thread man.

[eternalcrypt]

4 minutes ago, MacabreEternal said:

Come on, read the thread man.

lmao do you ever get tired of my stupid questions - 

[Hungarino]

9 minutes ago, eternalcrypt said:

so....are we gonna have a WW3 here?

Great question that no one knows the answer to. This thing could spiral into the rest of Europe, and then other countries like Iran, Israel, Turkey, India, Pakistan, DPRK and especially China, vis a vis Taiwan, could use it opportunistically to grab land and settle scores. That, all at once, would probably look like WWIII, with or without any nuclear exchanges.

Or this could remain confined to Ukraine, and the other regional security issues would continue simmer or boil mostly independently.

There is every reason to believe that we will descend, eventually, into a global conflict. There is no sustained history or pattern of human existence that isn't tangential or flat-out defined by violent conflict with other humans. So yes, it is inventible that sooner or later we will have WWIII, barring a pretty massive evolutionary change to how we organize, educate and produce and distribute resources.

[GoatmasterGeneral]

2 hours ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

Someone hit the reset buttons, I think humanity is soft locked. Seriously are we just hard wired for conflict or something?

If history has shown us anything it is that humans live for conflict. We seek it out and thrive on it because we get bored and complacent without it. If we can't find any conflict then we'll manufacture some. 

 

1 hour ago, KillaKukumba said:

I doubt it will get to a WW3 situation.

For starters Australia can't afford to get over there, with the bowser price skyrocketing we can't afford to refuel our ships. New Zealand will be in a similar position. Now if we had a ship that ran on bullshit our politicians could power it for eternity!

 

With all due repect Vic, we don't really need the ANZAC crew to have ourselves a world war. We only invited yiz to the last two to be polite. You guys can sit this one out. We'll call you if China starts a world war down there in your neck of the woods and we need someplace to park our planes or repair our ships or something.

 

5 hours ago, navybsn said:

And woe to any 3rd world shithole that has them in abundance...

Exactly. The world superpowers (including the US obviously) have no compunction whatsoever about making up flimsy excuses for taking whatever they want. The strong will always prey on the weak.

[AlSymerz]

12 minutes ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

With all due repect Vic, we don't really need the ANZAC crew to have ourselves a world war. We only invited yiz to the last two to be polite. You guys can sit this one out. We'll call you if China starts a world war down there in your neck of the woods and we need someplace to park our planes or repair our ships or something.

I knew someone would say this and totally ignore the piss take that it was.

If you want somewhere to park your F35's I hear that the South China Sea still has plenty of vacant space.

[GoatmasterGeneral]

25 minutes ago, KillaKukumba said:

I knew someone would say this and totally ignore the piss take that it was.

If you want somewhere to park your F35's I hear that the South China Sea still has plenty of vacant space.

I wasn't ignoring your piss take Vic, I was following your lead and running with it! Riffing on a theme.

We do seem to be the two "dad joke" guys here on the board after all. I think people have figured out not to take us seriously all the time. We think we're funny but I'm sure most of these dudes are rolling their eyes at the Boomers half the time. There's ThatDoc as well but his sense of humor is so fucking droll, he's more like my straight man than a joke teller.

[Thatguy]

One of my brothers-in-law is the dad joke king of my family. It took my kids until the mid teenage years to work out that most of what I say is droll bullshit. When people say 'but you said...' my reply is that I say a lot of stuff and not all of it should be taken seriously. My professional persona was different.

On more serious notes and echoing the now famous heroic words - Putin go fuck yourself. The evil fuck is delusional.

And I am stuck at home as my wife is recovering from Covid - Omicron I presume because although she has been the sickest I have ever known her to be, she was never in mortal danger and has stayed home. Interestingly I am perfectly well. We are both triple vaccinated...

[AlSymerz]

1 hour ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

I wasn't ignoring your piss take Vic, I was following your lead and running with it! Riffing on a theme.

We do seem to be the two "dad joke" guys here on the board after all. I think people have figured out not to take us seriously all the time. We think we're funny but I'm sure most of these dudes are rolling their eyes at the Boomers half the time. There's ThatDoc as well but his sense of humor is so fucking droll, he's more like my straight man than a joke teller.

I've managed to convince myself that all those people are laughing with me, not at me.

 

1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

One of my brothers-in-law is the dad joke king of my family. It took my kids until the mid teenage years to work out that most of what I say is droll bullshit. When people say 'but you said...' my reply is that I say a lot of stuff and not all of it should be taken seriously. My professional persona was different.

On more serious notes and echoing the now famous heroic words - Putin go fuck yourself. The evil fuck is delusional.

And I am stuck at home as my wife is recovering from Covid - Omicron I presume because although she has been the sickest I have ever known her to be, she was never in mortal danger and has stayed home. Interestingly I am perfectly well. We are both triple vaccinated...

I used to work for a doctor, old bastard then, real old bastard now (he's older than GMG!) He actually studied in the UK as an engineer but in the 80's heard we had a doctor shortage so he went back to school, got qualified, up sticks and moved here. I'm sure he's good at his job because he can manage 3 8am appointments all at the same time in different rooms. But he was very droll too and for a smart man many many jokes went straight over his head.

[RelentlessOblivion]

You guys think you’ve got dad jokes? Please, just wait til I start rolling out my same tired jokes about being blind… You’ll never see it coming

[Thatguy]

19 minutes ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

You guys think you’ve got dad jokes? Please, just wait til I start rolling out my same tired jokes about being blind… You’ll never see it coming

Yes!💯

[AlSymerz]

2 hours ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

You guys think you’ve got dad jokes? Please, just wait til I start rolling out my same tired jokes about being blind… You’ll never see it coming

I miss a lot of things

 

 

[eternalcrypt]

a man walked into a bar. he said ow.