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On ‎28‎/‎12‎/‎2016 at 1:03 AM, FatherAlabaster said:

Nice, quiet, calm... tea by a crackling fireplace... Burning Witch and Jig-Ai blaring simultaneously from separate corners of the room... Personally, I'm just waiting for bingo night.

The fireplace bit would just about kill me around this time of year.

 

On ‎28‎/‎12‎/‎2016 at 8:57 PM, Requiem said:

True Belief and Will, look outside at the sunset right now. It's amazing. 

I saw that yesterday, it was pretty cool.

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Ahhh fireplace.. i miss having one badly, so essential in the long autumn and winter we have here. Since divorcing couple years ago i´ve lived in this flat with no fireplace, worse yet no sauna! I guess i´m able to upgrade at some point but it´s kinda perfect for now.. gets bit crowded with kids though. :D 

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22 minutes ago, FatherAlabaster said:

How long do nights get in the winter up there? Things have been pretty mild here so far, aside from a couple of cold snaps, but I'm having a harder time than usual with the whole "nightfall in middle afternoon" bit.

Sun rises at about 10am and goes down 15pm at the moment. Personally i enjoy it a lot, theres something magical in the winter. I do hate the cold though. I´m pretty much in the south-west in finland, it gets much worse the more north you go. 

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28 minutes ago, GrayscaleDawn said:

Sun rises at about 10am and goes down 15pm at the moment. Personally i enjoy it a lot, theres something magical in the winter. I do hate the cold though. I´m pretty much in the south-west in finland, it gets much worse the more north you go. 

Oh hell, I couldn't handle a whole winter of that anymore. I used to love the cold, but as I've said before, years working outside cured me of that. Sounds fun for a visit.

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I'm gonna start a ... thrashgrind speed doom pornogrind symphonic sludgecore crossover crunkcore deathslamsludgefuck fuzz pop glam smash new wave of Liechtensteinian blackend countrythrashgrindcoreanal... leakage bum fuckery band called... Sex With A Dumptruck. Sometimes these sub-genres really fuck with my mind. 

And here I was.... thinking that "Sex With A Dumptruck" is a totally new concept. Of course not, this is 2016 after all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanophilia

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If you're feeling overwhelmed by genre proliferation, the best way to get on top of it is to listen to a bunch of different stuff and see what sticks. It gets a little berserk with all the different terms, but they're supposed to be helpful descriptions, not just meaningless bullshit. You would probably benefit from broadening your horizons a bit. I've seen a lot of people here and elsewhere that somehow identify with one particular subgenre, but I've never understood that. There's good stuff to be found all over the place.

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My probem with genres is same as i´ve had in any sort of categorizing, i never accepted to do that on my part. In religion or in anything. To me adding a factor like that to anything will add also rules, boundaries, limits. I hate that. I hate that in my thinking. I hate that in my music. I hate that in my life. I can see how it can be nice for someone to truely identify with something, it just never has happened to me. Not that i´ve been even really looking. 

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I was somewhat jokin around there but sometimes it really does get annoying. What the flying fuck is crossover thrash? Punk mixed with thrash? Oh but wait, I thought thrash was "classic heavy metal" mixed with punk rock. See what I am getting at here? I like to keep my shit to as few divisions as possible: Heavy Metal, Thrash Metal, Pussy Metal/Glam Metal/Hair Metal/Nu Metal, Black Metal, and Death Metal. As for identifying with a particular subgenre; I love thrash, I am a thrasher, that will not change, however, I love all sorts of shit. Saxon, Maiden, Diamond Head, Metallica, Boston, The Doors, Van Halen, The Beach Boys, and The Beastie Boys, anything that isn't generic, commercial, emo screamo pop glammy garbage. 

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9 hours ago, GrayscaleDawn said:

My probem with genres is same as i´ve had in any sort of categorizing, i never accepted to do that on my part. In religion or in anything. To me adding a factor like that to anything will add also rules, boundaries, limits. I hate that. I hate that in my thinking. I hate that in my music. I hate that in my life. I can see how it can be nice for someone to truely identify with something, it just never has happened to me. Not that i´ve been even really looking. 

 

8 hours ago, ProfessorThrashman said:

I was somewhat jokin around there but sometimes it really does get annoying. What the flying fuck is crossover thrash? Punk mixed with thrash? Oh but wait, I thought thrash was "classic heavy metal" mixed with punk rock. See what I am getting at here? I like to keep my shit to as few divisions as possible: Heavy Metal, Thrash Metal, Pussy Metal/Glam Metal/Hair Metal/Nu Metal, Black Metal, and Death Metal. As for identifying with a particular subgenre; I love thrash, I am a thrasher, that will not change, however, I love all sorts of shit. Saxon, Maiden, Diamond Head, Metallica, Boston, The Doors, Van Halen, The Beach Boys, and The Beastie Boys, anything that isn't generic, commercial, emo screamo pop glammy garbage. 

There are two valuable things I can think of, where an understanding of subgenre labels is concerned. One is understanding where the music (and the labels) came from; the other is being able to talk with other people about it and understand what they're saying. "Crossover" is basically a perfect example of what I'm trying to say, since it has been used in different ways since the 80s and (unsurprisingly) has always involved some overlap between hardcore and metal. The origins of what you typically think of as "thrash" started with NWOBHM riffs played faster, with more aggressive vocals - both of which were influences from hardcore punk - but different bands incorporated the hardcore influences in different ways: harsher vocals, chunkier riffs, etc. It's not a bunch of separate categories, it's a spectrum. "Crossover" now typically refers to bands that are on the punkier side of that spectrum, especially bands from the original time period (mid 80s/early 90s).

Labels change all the time, as the music and the audience changes, and they're not exclusive little boxes to put music in; like I said before, they're supposed to be helpful terms. Reading about it online will drive you bonkers, and getting into arguments with people about which box something belongs in can feel pretty pointless, but listening to bunch of different stuff really does help to clarify it in a subjective way. A lot of it is about the background each person brings to the table as a listener.

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Well for me, the thing is that labeling different genres helps finding me new stuff to enjoy. When I read for example suicidal black metal, it is not very likely that I will bother to check it out, unless there are some more specific references (to bands) for example. Plus, like Father already pointed out, it's very helpful sometimes to talk about it. A couple of months ago our current photographer asked me if I knew some good black metal bands. But as you might know, it's a very broad genre with a lot of different bands. So in that case, it is good that people get a bit more specific with terms like, in this case, orthodox or raw.

Also, on a positive note: I am officially in a relationship with this Hungarian girl since a couple of days :D I might upload a cheesy picture soon.

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I know the terms are supposed to be helpful, but sometimes it just gets ridiculous. After all, isn't that why bands have names? I know if I was gonna have a band, well... we'd play alot of thrash of course, but maybe at a different time we'd wanna play something else, then something different from that, and so on. So you'd end up with all these labels when it'd be easier just to say "Heavy Metal". But Like I said too, I don't have a problem with some labels, like thrash or death metal, or that sort of shit. There does have to be somewhat of a division if the band is specifically thrash or death or black metal, or if they did just one album as thrash and the rest is black. Bah I don't know, I'm gettin kinda buzzed here so I don't want to think about anything x3 

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