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I really can't stand it when people claim that good metal died in the 80s and early 90s. There is some superb metal being made nowadays and there's no point turning up one's nose at it. As a matter of

Just because something is new does not entail that it is in any way better (or more worthy of attention) than something that is old.  Just as anticipation of the future can bring new advents to music

The past is a whole heap of 'nows' collected behind us. Our current time is simply one set of 'now'. Therefore, the past is better because it contains 50 years of metal 'nows', whereas the current mom

I really can't stand it when people claim that good metal died in the 80s and early 90s. There is some superb metal being made nowadays and there's no point turning up one's nose at it. As a matter of fact, it typically demonstrates that said person simply hasn't been looking around enough. If I'm perfectly honest, I prefer the metal being made nowadays. The kind of excellent prog and tech-death I've heard was a lot rarer in those eras than it is now.

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Re: 80's and 90's metal vs. nowdays metal Different genres have their golden eras, usually not long after they start, but that doesn't mean they can't be done well after the golden era is over. Also, since new genres and styles are still being created, new golden eras are still happening. Just like in any time period, the mainstream stuff will always be lacking compared to underground stuff, and the people that say that there's nothing good going on are always just paying attention to the mainstream. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

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can't really add much to this conversation since I agree with everything being said by BAN and Iceni although I suppose I can provide an example of their point, death metal has had it's golden age but there are still plenty of good death metal bands coming out of the woodwork like Arsis who only started in the mid 2000's, or Fabricant a new DM band playing cool and really weird stuff.

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The true essence of the music existed in those days with the bands that pioneered and created their respective sounds, while the music may not be dead (there is no contention there) the glory days have long since passed. That being said even with a few modern bands which aren't many, I'd rather listen to Suffocation, Gorgoroth, Crimson Glory, and Candlemass over flavor of the week type shit even in the underground.

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To clarify, when I say "golden age", I'm referring to a time when an abundance of bands were releasing almost consistently awesome albums from a certain genre. Heavy metal in the early 80's, thrash metal in the mid-late 80's, black and death metal in the early and mid 90's, there are bands that have definitely succeeded in those styles since those eras, but in nowhere near the same quantity.

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I'll be honest - new releases from the current era of new bands rarely do anything for me. I learned quite quickly with metal (and I imagine it to be the same with any music genre of choice) that whilst there are always quality releases from the new breed there is always a plethora of classics (both known and waiting to be discovered) in the history of any genre. These days I can find a lot more enjoyment out of "Back In Black", "In Rock" or "Sad Wings Of Destiny" than I can in any virtually any recent release from the last 12 months. My tastes have matured a little (I don't think that is me growing old - more I have a clearer idea of what I do and don't like) and I have an established collection that increasingly has space for older stuff as opposed to current releases.

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Re: 80's and 90's metal vs. nowdays metal There's just as much good stuff now as there ever was, and there's just as much crap too. The difference is that more good releases are underground now, less popular choices are really doing anything creatively remarkable than they were in the 80's. Also, you can't expect to find as much good stuff from genres that have already died out after their golden era anymore, like thrash and old style heavy metal. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

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I really wish the thrash revival would die out to be honest. I've heard Vektor and soon got bored, Revocation are less than average and Evile are frankly crap (that guitarist gets far too much credit for my liking also). Slayer (with or without Jeff) are a shadow of their former selves - certainly since "Seasons In the Abyss" anyway, Megadave are wildly inconsistent, Anthrax should just stop recording and Metallica are just awful nowadays.

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I really wish the thrash revival would die out to be honest. I've heard Vektor and soon got bored' date=' Revocation are less than average and Evile are frankly crap (that guitarist gets far too much credit for my liking also). Slayer (with or without Jeff) are a shadow of their former selves - certainly since "Seasons In the Abyss" anyway, Megadave are wildly inconsistent, Anthrax should just stop recording and Metallica are just awful nowadays.[/quote'] I pretty much agree, but Vektor slay, I'm not sure how they could get boring. Most of the best thrash happening these days are from black/thrash and death/thrash bands, though a few retro acts like Evil Army are actually impressively old school without sounding like plain old hero worship. Also, Overkill's last couple of albums have kicked ass, not all of the old bands are doing as poorly as Slayer and Metallica right now. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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Hypocrisy started in 90' and have since then been pretty good still even after their switch to melodeath. If may have taken a couple albums to get it down but they did with the Virus album and End of Disclosure isn't a bad album though it may not be the same as their previous ones.
There are bands that have been trudging along for years continuing to release good material, but there are far fewer that are releasing better material now than they ever have, or material that is at least as good as their heyday. Virus was one of Hypocrisy's better albums, but I would still put Inferior Devoties, Osculum Obscenum, Penetralia, and The Fourth Dimension above it, with Abducted being a toss up.
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Of course there has and personally I feel that most bands do their best because of that raw power and sound and energy they have. Bands early in their formation channel all of their emotions into that band since it's just the beginning and that energy most of the time dies out after some time. Some bands are able to conserve this energy and intensity longer than other bands but sooner or later all bands just lose the power they once had. With Hypocrisy I think by switching to melodeath they renewed some of that energy but it took the Catch 22 and The Arrival albums being shit to get it right. I think some of these bands need to mix things up a little bit so they don't get stale if that makes any sense. I'm not saying switch genres or dramatically change the sound just mix it up a little and try something new. That's why in my opinion Heavy Metal died out, it was getting old and people wanted something different and heavier.

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