What's on your mind?

[FatherAlabaster]

I was being labeled as an elitist simply for knowing my genres.

Yeah... still don't see a problem with it, either. If I was you I would have said, "hey fuck you, I AM an elitist, you just wish you had enough taste and discrimination to be one too". I hate to say this and I'm sincerely not picking on you but it sounds like meaningless high school drama to me. I do remember going through some similar things, though we didn't have cell phones, much less Twitter, but for the life of me I can't remember what any of it was about. Meh. You like your music and you don't need anyone else's approval in order to enjoy it. That should be good enough for you. That's really what it's all about. I intend no disrespect towards you, so please don't take it that way.

[BlutAusNerd]

I hate to say this and I'm sincerely not picking on you but it sounds like meaningless high school drama to me. You like your music and you don't need anyone else's approval in order to enjoy it.

I agree completely with both of these lines, I think this is the most crucial point here. You don't need his approval to like what you like, and he doesn't need yours. At the same time though, I wouldn't exactly call myself a punker because I own one Discharge album, so this guy calling himself a metalhead would be daft, but that shit is everywhere. My brother dated a girl that ran an underground country/folk/americana label, and the bands she would book would bitch about pop/country, just like punk fans bitch about pop/punk and melodic metalcore, and jazz fans bitch about shit like Kenny G getting lumped in with Miles Davis. Most people won't go past the surface level, and live for the lowest common denominator in all forms of media and entertainment (and any facet of life you could point out, really), but that tends to be the antithesis of music as a whole. Those people will always be there, that's just how it is, and it's honestly not worth the time and effort to worry about it. I would rather spend that time checking out new bands or making music of my own than worrying about what some fucking idiot thinks.

[Metalhead Steve]

I think we strayed a little from the topic. I don't care if he enjoys those bands, I was just arguing that they were post-hardcore rather than metalcore. I couldn't agree more with the high school drama comment, but this dude is like 30 and mentioned my age multiple times in the debate. Did I mention he used Wikipedia as his source of genres? I'll say he's a metalhead because he is a fan of plenty of metal, but the guy just doesn't know his shit.

[RelentlessOblivion]

That being said the reactions when one trolls the facebook or twitter pages of certain bands is pretty god damn funny

[RelentlessOblivion]

Being an elitist is not necessarily a bad thing. Truth be told I consider myself somewhat elitist. I don't act like a total douche about it but I don't like bands which aren't metal being mislabelled.

[Metalhead Steve]

Turns out the denim jacket is measured by chest size and not length. I'm so excited. I'm really skinny so I should be able to fit into a small without issue. I hope this works out. I'm ordering the vest now

[BlackFuckingMetal666]

Being an elitist is not necessarily a bad thing. Truth be told I consider myself somewhat elitist. I don't act like a total douche about it but I don't like bands which aren't metal being mislabelled.

I too consider myself an elitist in the aspect that I don't listen to metalcore, deathcore, or nu metal because I find it lacking in effort but you will never see me tell someone they can't like it because I think it sucks. I also know my genres and would prefer someone to know the difference and be able to distinguish the sound. But as far as criticizing people for not knowing genres and their personal tastes I do not condone that in any way like FatherAlabaster said you don't need any approval from someone else to like what you like. And further more people who would go and criticize peoples taste in music or a specific genre in metal is no metalhead at all, it is simply someone who thinks he is better than those around based of the music he listens to and I refuse to call that an aspect of being a metalhead, since metalheads accept each other BECAUSE of their differences and excluding people and sectioning them out goes against what metalheads stand for, at least that's what I've come to believe.

[RelentlessOblivion]

I wholeheartedly agree. It is because we don't all like the same stuff that metal has survived this long. It allows so much room for diversity and that is what makes our music so unique. Fuck the haters, listen to what you like, and when some asshole tells you "that stuff's shit" raise that middle finger and tell 'em to go fuck themselves.

[Idlewilde]

I don't like at all when people say some music is shit. You may not see what others like in something and vice versa. it takes time and efforts to create music (I suppose) and I don't see why people should insult it and fight for something like this. yup we are all different and it is normal to like different things otherwise other people wouldn't be interesting to know.

[Metalhead Steve]

I really think some of you completely strayed from the topic I originally created and made a whole new mess out of it. Allow me to clarify some shit. I don't criticize nor do I insult people for not knowing genres. If anything, I try to help them understand genres better so they don't make themselves look like asses. I don't care to give approval to what people like. I don't give a fuck if someone listens to Black Veil Brides, One Direction, and Justin Bieber. Like what you like, I'm never going to insult you for it. If you listen to metal and call yourself a metalhead, I'm not gonna call you a poser or say that you aren't a metalhead. What I was saying before is that the person I was talking to that claimed he was some huge metalhead only listened to Post-Hardcore. ...That isn't a genre of metal. So, while getting pissed because I do consider that to be a poser for obvious reasons, I'm trying to help him understand that what he listens to isn't metal and insert into his brain what metal actually is. The person I was debating with didn't insult me for what I listen to, nor did I insult him at all. He insulted me for being a metal elitist (I was only debating that certain bands were Post-Hardcore rather than metalcore), and he started insulting me for my age and elitism or whatever. I don't care that he listens to Asking Alexandria, BMTH, or Of Mice And Men; I was just trying to get him to understand the genres. Clarified? I'm tired so I'm doing my best here to be as clear as glass grade meth. In other news... I'm hoping to get this back patch for my vest. http://shop.metaldevastation.com/DEATH-Scream-Bloody-Gore-thrash-metal-075-BKPTDEAT075.htm

[Idlewilde]

Hey nobody really wanted to criticize you, me the least. I just blabber and say what came to my mind, which is not nessecarily related to your specific case It is the best thing about forums, nobody cares if you don't stick to the topic! As for genres - I'm not a specialist at all . I hope your vest will turn out well-and if you know someone around you that can draw a thing or two it will look great.

[Parker]

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[NTNR]

SUGAR! Hooray being forced awake with chocolate!!

[BlutAusNerd]

I've been sick since Monday. I've fucking had it with being miserable, this shit needs to stop.

[orcslayr23]

I've been thinking about my finances a lot lately. I need to spend more of my money on my bills and less on stupid shit. I mean, I make enough to pay all my bills with a decent amount left over , but I have a sudent loan debt i'd like to be rid of sooner rather than later. Atheism has also been on my mind a lot lately, since it's a (lack of) belief i've discovered about myself pretty recently and unfortunately i don't have too many people to talk to about it.

[FatherAlabaster]

I remember my earliest realization that I was an atheist as being a pretty depressing and lonely thing. It does get better. I can also recommend some interesting books if you'd like.

[RelentlessOblivion]

I found the idea of Atheism very easy to deal with. I suppose it did help that I had friends I could talk to about stuff like that though. I came to that realisation at about fifteen.

[BlackFuckingMetal666]

I personally prefer being Agnostic. I don't like the idea of making a decision without any physical proof. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. But this is just my opinion everyone is entitled to their own beliefs.

[RelentlessOblivion]

Rationality mandates that true atheism is akin to ignorance as such I would think many "atheists" (myself included) would be closer to agnostic in the sense that whilst we don't believe there is a god or gods we are willing to accept they may exist if shown sufficient evidence. On an unrelated subject I've noticed whenever I listen to Orphaned Land that always puts me in a really good mood. I wonder why that is.

[BlutAusNerd]

Re: What's on your mind? I think I have my jam room situated about how I want it now. Here are pictures from a couple of angles: [ATTACH]715[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]716[/ATTACH] Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

[RelentlessOblivion]

When you have to actually think about your guitar playing suddenly it's less fun. Still love playing though

[orcslayr23]

I was brought up Catholic, but I was never a "true believer", as in I believed in my heart and soul that there was a God. It was easier just to not think about it, although I had been "doubting" for a few years. It wasn't until recently that I had an epiphany of sorts and shortly after I accepted that I discovered a new part of myself. I wouldn't consider myself "depressed" about it, if anything it's liberating. Atheism, I guess, is a "depressing" way of life compared to the idea of eternal paradise after we die, but isn't "real love" "depressing" compared to how movies and the media idealize romance?

[FatherAlabaster]

When you have to actually think about your guitar playing suddenly it's less fun. Still love playing though

If you're talking about technique, the more you practice, the less you have to think about it. Speaking of which I have to go warm up, I've got parts to record today. I haven't gotten to play anywhere near enough recently.

[FatherAlabaster]

I was brought up Catholic' date=' but I was never a "true believer", as in I believed in my heart and soul that there was a God. It was easier just to not think about it, although I had been "doubting" for a few years. It wasn't until recently that I had an epiphany of sorts and shortly after I accepted that I discovered a new part of myself. I wouldn't consider myself "depressed" about it, if anything it's liberating. Atheism, I guess, is a "depressing" way of life compared to the idea of eternal paradise after we die, but isn't "real love" "depressing" compared to how movies and the media idealize romance?[/quote'] I suppose it was depressing and liberating all at once. I lived in a ashram when I was a child and I was brought up with reincarnation (which I never bought, even as a child) and the Hindu pantheon. The older I got, the more skeptical I became, but it wasn't until I returned to the ashram years later that I had my own "epiphany" and realized how completely I'd left it behind. It was the culmination of a long process. So really the depressing part for me was losing a sense of belonging to my childhood home. I never believed in a specific afterlife, so making sense of some of my friends' deaths and my own mortality was initially pretty painful too. But those experiences pushed me towards reading about evolutionary biology, neuroscience, comparative religion, and secular philosophy. Trying to understand how it actually works, instead of burying my head in fiction, has been pretty rewarding. At this point I'm nothing but happy that I walked away.

[RelentlessOblivion]

that's exactly what I mean. Having to make sure I'm not completely fucking up takes away from the fun a little bit. It helps that I can also practice songs like The Trooper and Electric Eye plus I've got some of my own stuff I'm working on like this eerie clean riff I've been trying to perfect for months. I get it just the way I want and then I'll experiment with it another way and it works and then I can't figure out which I like better, kind of annoying really.