What Are You Listening To?

[Kristiko]

Disturbed - The Sickness (album)

[GoatmasterGeneral]

4 hours ago, Nasty_Cabbage said:

It's decent, but in going for the cavernous style of slower Grave Miasma or Dead Congregation it loses a little memorability.

Sounds promising. That's the kind of cavernous predictable death/doom I like. The stuff that makes Doc and our Father yawn from boredom.

Ok it was only 32 minutes so I had a go at it. I take back what I said, even i found it tedious and boring. And I definitely didn't get any Grave Miasma or DC vibes from that, no sick riffage happening there. Sounds like it was recorded in an empty airplane hangar. Onto the garbage heap of history it goes, that's a hard pass from the Goat. Going back to my Convocation from last night now. 

[Nasty_Cabbage]

3 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Yeah man, I'm aware that many other people enjoy albums and sub-genres that I can't stand. My best friend of 48 years in real life loves Nightwish, says they're his favorite band. But of course I checked 'em out and I absolutely fucking hated them. Sounded fake and plastic and sparkley to me. But that's cool, I love him like a brother regardless of our musical differences and fortunately he doesn't ever make me listen to them. And we have lots of other bands in common.

I noticed several people posted that Moonlight Sorcery album last year. I'll assume because they liked it, but I thought it was dreadful. What was that other band a couple of years ago, Stormruler? Some people posted that, Shifty (True Belief) said it was one of his favorites from the year before, so I dialed it up to have a listen and it was fucking awful. I still feel kinda bad about how utterly shitty I told him I thought it was. I have a big mouth sometimes. 

When it comes to my metal I like it raw and filthy, down and dirty. I understand most people don't limit themselves like that, but I can't help it, that's just what does it for me. You could say I didn't choose filth, filth chose me. I look at it like a calling. Anything that sounds fake, plastic and sparkley to me will be avoided at all costs. It's not the melody I have a problem with, I like lots of fairly melodic stuff. It's just anything that comes across as too clean and bright or happy sounding just repulses me. As does most prog, and all that pretty fluffy post-metal, anything resembling sissy power metal with super high-pitched vocals, and pretty much anything that gets the "technical" tag. I just want raw nasty filth. Or at least something with balls. Unless it's not metal and then all bets are off. Non metal doesn't have to adhere to the rules and be raw and filthy, these rules only really apply to my extreme metal listening. Still don't really like any type of music that's too pretty or too happy or too sparkley, but if it's not metal then it doesn't all have to be raw nasty filth.

But you do you my brother, please feel free to keep on listening and posting whatever it is that makes you happy, because I would never want to stifle anyone's enjoyment of their music or impose my personal brand of fucked up insanity on anyone else. Don't worry about some of the shit I might have said about any of the stuff you may have posted, I really don't mean anything personal by it. I often like to offer my unfiltered hyperbolic opinions on stuff just to stimulate some conversation around here. Trust me, it's not easy being insane, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

You'd be insane to suggest otherwise.

... and I know you weren't really attacking anybody. Just keeping the discussion spirited as I see it.

I do like the raw stuff as long as we don't veer off into d-beat punk/hardcore. I still listen to Beherit's Oath of Black Blood with regularity, along with a few other personal faves. I certainly get what you're saying about the sin of being too "sparkley" as well. I remember when Children of Bodom was gaining traction among stateside metalheads, so of course I had to see what all the fuss was about. I remember listening to one of their more well known tracks and thinking that outside of the leads which were for the most part arpeggiated lead-ins to the music proper, they were weirdly unremarkable.

Nightwish though. Ugh. They completely non-plussed me with how popular they were/became. It felt like all those "operatic" bands that were sprouting like weeds at the time somehow connected with everybody but me. It could have been the absolute gall to suggest that what they were doing was anywhere near opera. It was more like an overstuffed template of some very safe and unchallenging songs collapsing in on themselves beneath the weight of their synths. Evanescence were risker than them, and that's about as low a bar as could possibly be set.

[navybsn]

WFH day, so massive playlist incoming. I would throw in some Anti-Cimex, Discharge, or Wolfbrigade in honor of our dear leafy green vegetable, but I've already done the work to put the playlist together.

Akercocke - Choronzon - FA and I both thinking about getting some 'cocke today

Akercocke - Renaissance in Extremis

Hulder - Verses in Oath

Inquisition - Veneration

Inquisition - Black Mass

Marduk - Panzer Division Marduk

DHG - Black Medium Current

The Antichrist Imperium - Vol 2: Every Tongue Shall Praise Satan

Black Angel - The Black Truth

Judas Iscariot - Heaven Shall Burn

Horna - Vuohipaimen

 

[Arioch]

Scorpions - Animal Magnetism (1980)

 

[Arioch]

Deep Purple - In Rock (1970)

 

[MacabreEternal]

Stargazer - A Merging to the Boundless (2014)

 

[FatherAlabaster]

Howling Sycamore - s/t

PoiL Ueda - Yoshitsune   ...grabbed from the Thatguy pile.

I'm not sure I can properly dig into this with everything going on at the household today, but I like it, wild stuff.

[GoatmasterGeneral]

4 hours ago, Arioch said:

Scorpions - Animal Magnetism (1980)

 

Man, this was a big album for me 44 years ago or whenever it was. This and Lovedrive I used to play over and over. Haven't heard this one in probably 5 or 10 years so I guess today's a good a time as any.

[Arioch]

13 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Man, this was a big album for me 44 years ago or whenever it was. This and Lovedrive I used to play over and over. Haven't heard this one in probably 5 or 10 years so I guess today's a good a time as any.

I've had this album on LP since 1984 or 1985. A colleague of my father's gave it to me, along with Love At First Sting and Lovedrive.

I also listened to a lot of Scorpions at that time, especially Blackout.

And I'm a fan of World Wide Live, their fabulous live album.

[AlSymerz]

Judas Priest day, as well as Exhorder. I know the excitement level for both around here is huge (and largely denied).

NP: Exhorder - Get Rude

[Hornet-1]

Disaster piece

[Nasty_Cabbage]

NP: Spiritual Deception - Semitae Mentis

▶︎ Semitae Mentis | Spiritual Deception (bandcamp.com)

Hmmm. About halfway through this album and the integration of choral bits and piano in the tech/death template is done in an interesting way. This could have very easily turned into a sort of base of choir backed melodic riffing rising in the verse, break back down with atonal riffing for the chorus, bridge is the wild card, and repeat. This stuff is a little chuggier than that though and the actual atonal tech riffing tends to follow and add to the piano and choirs with a flatted or sharped note here and there in the same melody. What's really interesting is how it thoroughly avoids the Gothenberg melodeath trappings. They're working in an entirely different mode that shares as much with Suffocation as it does with Arsis (and yes, I know Arsis aren't entirely Gothenberg, but you catch my meaning). It was a nice surprise all in all.

[GoatmasterGeneral]

57 minutes ago, AlSymerz said:

Judas Priest day, as well as Exhorder. I know the excitement level for both around here is huge (and largely denied).

Judas who??

Not everyone lives in the past Orca. Some of us simply prefer to remember these old legacy bands from 40 or 50 years ago as they were in their prime. We figure there's a 95% chance that hearing the new shit can only lead to disappointment. And even if it turns out to be reasonably decent or even pretty good, who really still fucking cares? You know it's not going to actually rival their classic material that we all know and love.

With a band like Preest who are 40 years out from their hey-day, that means there have been 40 years of developments in the metal world since then, and many of us have simply moved on from that traditional 80's style heavy metal. There have also been 40 years of new young music fans born in the two generations since then who don't have any nostalgic connection to those old dinosaur bands from yesteryear that maybe their parents listened to. There will always be exceptions like our Carolina man JT, but I'm sure most younger people under 40 must look at those old 80's dinosaur heavy metal bands in much the same way I looked at most of the old crap from the 40's and 50's my parents listened to when I was a kid in the 60's and 70's. I couldn't possibly imagine my 33 year old daughter listening to any of the stuff I was listening to 40 years ago. Her idea of "oldies" is probably stuff from the early 2000's.

 

NP: Judas Preest - Hellbent for Fucking Leather, still delivering the goods after 46 years. I've no need for a new delivery.

 

31 minutes ago, Nasty_Cabbage said:

NP: Spiritual Deception - Semitae Mentis

Hmmm. About halfway through this album and the integration of choral bits and piano in the tech/death template is done in an interesting way. This could have very easily turned into a sort of base of choir backed melodic riffing rising in the verse, break back down with atonal riffing for the chorus, bridge is the wild card, and repeat. This stuff is a little chuggier than that though and the actual atonal tech riffing tends to follow and add to the piano and choirs with a flatted or sharped note here and there in the same melody. What's really interesting is how it thoroughly avoids the Gothenberg melodeath trappings. They're working in an entirely different mode that shares as much with Suffocation as it does with Arsis (and yes, I know Arsis aren't entirely Gothenberg, but you catch my meaning). It was a nice surprise all in all.

No idea who Arsis are dude.

[AlSymerz]

There is also a whole bunch of people who wont let themselves like any band that has been around more than a decade.

Each to their own, but it doesn't make every new album a dud.

 

[Thatguy]

9 minutes ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

No idea who Arsis are dude.

You don't know your Arsis from a hole in the ground

CABINET - Hydrolysated Ordination. Nasty

GLOSON - Yearwalker. Noice

[GoatmasterGeneral]

13 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

You don't know your Arsis from a hole in the ground

CABINET - Hydrolysated Ordination. Nasty

GLOSON - Yearwalker. Noice

Hehe...good one.

Don't get me started on another Cabinet session Doc, I'm trying to enjoy my Preest nostalgia arvo here. Something about that band Cabinet, they have a strange hold on me. When I listen to them I'll end up playing all of their shit through several times, once I get started I can't seem to get enough Cabinet. I'd heard they had a new one out last week, but I didn't see it up on YT when I looked for it last weekend. I will definitely get to it sometime this evening if it's up there now.

[Innominate]

Messiah - Christus Hypercubus

Disgrace - Grey Misery

Ripping Corpse - Unreleased 2nd Album

 

[Thatguy]

34 minutes ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

I'd heard they had a new one out last week,

This is it. It's just what you'd expect from them. Our tastes strangely co-incide with this band.

[Nasty_Cabbage]

59 minutes ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

No idea who Arsis are dude.

American melodeath band fronted by guitarist James Malone and usually some stand ins for the alternate harmonized twin guitars and drums. Primarily known for bringing a rougher slightly more intricate edge into the usual melodeath pattern... and some suspiciously eighties sounding lead work in a lot of their stuff. Along with a few unusual covers here and there as well. Their version of Alice Cooper's Roses on White Lace is particularly fun. They had a whole deal where it seemed like every other album was excellent, but I think that pattern's been broken in recent years if memory serves.

NP: Sickening - The Death King

▶︎ The Death King | Sickening | Amputated Vein Records (bandcamp.com)

Figured long as I'm on the bandcamp page I might as well see what Amputated Vein have put out so far this year. This is exactly what you'd expect. Very much in the mold of a Unique Leader or Razorback album. Enjoyable.

[GoatmasterGeneral]

1 hour ago, AlSymerz said:

There are also a whole bunch of people who won't let themselves like any band that's been around more than a decade.

Each to their own, but it doesn't make every new album a dud.

Nothing anyone says about a band you happen to like or the albums they release should affect how you feel about them. If someone proclaims the new album to be a dud that means that's how they're perceiving it, that's their reality, but that shouldn't have any bearing on whatever your opinion of it might be. I could proclaim the new Priest endeavor to be a steaming pile of shit, and you could refute that and say you think it's the greatest goddamned thing they've ever done, and both of those conflicting opinions could be 100% true at the same time. It's all subjective Vic. One man's pleasure is another man's pain.

I don't know you in real life Orca, you seem like a decent enough dude for a farmer, I'm sure we'd probably get on just fine if we ever crossed paths irl. But you should know that on the forum at least you do come across as someone who gets easily butt hurt over what people on the internet say about music and bands you happen to like. As much as you insist that you don't care, it's pretty clear that on some level you do. Now me I just laugh when people trash the filthy blackened lo-fi shit that I love, why would I possibly care what anyone else thinks of the music I enjoy by myself in private? Especially when these assholes offering their unsolicited opinions are complete strangers on the internet. Are they gonna come here and listen to it for me? I'm so used to getting negative feedback on my filthy shit that it honestly doesn't even phase me anymore like it used to 40 - 50 years ago. I've learned to generally expect people to hate on my shit as the default, and then I'm often taken by surprise when someone says they actually dig my shit too. But when they say it's shit, I know that doesn't make it true for anyone but them.

Funny, I haven't run into any of these people who won't allow themselves to like any band that's been around for more than a decade. Can you give us any names? 

 

 

NP: Zeke - Pinstriping the Dutchman's Coffin, Seattle 1999

 

Zeke - Flat Tracker, 1996

 

REO Speedealer – REO Speedealer, Lubbock Texas 1998

 

19 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

This is it. It's just what you'd expect from them. Our tastes strangely coincide with this band.

Well they're black/death, not some pseudo blackened pretty post-metal or any of that progressive avant-garde nonsense. So you're in my wheelhouse here Doc, because cavernous black/death is my shit. We have other stuff that we agree on as well, but most of it's generally a bit more to the extreme side so I reckon that's like you crossing over to visit me in my domain, not me 'slumming it' to spend a little time in yours. But you're welcome to visit my cave any time Docarooni, door's always open for your refined ozzy ass.

[FatherAlabaster]

Debussy - Preludes (Walter Gieseking)

Ulver - Themes From The Marriage Of Heaven And Hell

[JamesT]

We are on the precipice...

The mighty Judas Priest will release album #19 in just a few hours!  My goodness, I cannot stand the anticipation.  "Invincible Shield" is gonna be a fantastic release (Judas Priest makes nothing else besides metal magic)!  At the gym in the early morning and to and from work tomorrow, this thing will be blasting at full volume - and what a beast it will be!  Heading to bed early so Christmas morning will come all the sooner.  

[markm]

Awesome James! Hope it lives up to your expectations. Long Hail the Metal Gods. 

[AlSymerz]

5 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

As much as you insist that you don't care, it's pretty clear that on some level you do.

You give me way too much credit.