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Re: Blackened Death metal Just like punk/metal fusions, there are a few different varieties of black/death hybrids. I prefer the more melodic Swedish stuff, like Sacramentum, Unanimated, Necrophobic, Dissection, etc... though I have been getting more into bestial/war stuff like Blasphemophagher, Morbosidad, Revenge, etc... Those are much more melodic and raw respectively than what you listed, so I would suggest trying bands like Angelcorpse, Weapon, Rites of Thy Degringolade, Antediluvian, and Mitochondion. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

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What precisely does the term bestial mean? It has a literal meaning but I see it crop up every now and then in a metal context. I haven't heard that much of this, I listen to Chthonic and early Sympathy and I think that's about it. I also heard Aeternus and they were good...

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What precisely does the term bestial mean? It has a literal meaning but I see it crop up every now and then in a metal context. I haven't heard that much of this, I listen to Chthonic and early Sympathy and I think that's about it. I also heard Aeternus and they were good...
Bestial as in a sort of an animalistic rampage. Moreso than almost any style it just doesn't let up, it's super raw, nasty, and almost constantly insane sounding. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

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Its a trick term that masks musical talent for playing random notes and sucking the dicks of Blasphemy and Angelcorpse albums because you have no idea how to write good riffs. Shit bands like Revenge, Proclamation, and Morboresidad are all in this style of black metal. Characteristics include: hyper fast blasting, randomly strummed notes, and male goats that the band members fuck because they are homosexuals.

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RetorntoCarthage why so much hate toward musical genre ? It's funny to get so aggressive because of..... musical style ? I know many good blackened death bands, they are simply black metal with death sound for example Saltus from my country - very good black metal with some death influences. Abusiveness is good too, same genre as Saltus. And what does homosexualism have in common with black metal ? Or with goats ? I know a lot of KIDS who quarrel which metal genre is "more trve and more fvckin deadly" it's childish

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RetorntoCarthage why so much hate toward musical genre ?
Don't bother. On the topic in question, I like Illogicist, an Italian group that sound a bit like Death. Higher-pitched vocals are OK in death metal, and on occasion the tremolo riffs work really well, as in Ulcerate's music. I also like what I've heard from Behemoth musically, and Sceptic is pretty good too.

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Don't bother. On the topic in question, I like Illogicist, an Italian group that sound a bit like Death. Higher-pitched vocals are OK in death metal, and on occasion the tremolo riffs work really well, as in Ulcerate's music. I also like what I've heard from Behemoth musically, and Sceptic is pretty good too.
None of those bands are really black/death in any way though, except for Behemoth. You might have a tough time with it, as I can't think of many black/death bands that aren't extremely anti-christian. You might give Mitochondrion a try though, they're more occult than anti-christian and are somewhat similar to Ulcerate. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

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None of those bands are really black/death in any way though' date=' except for Behemoth. You might have a tough time with it, as I can't think of many black/death bands that aren't extremely anti-christian. You might give Mitochondrion a try though, they're more occult than anti-christian and are somewhat similar to Ulcerate.[/quote'] I thought the high-pitched vocals were at least a black metal trope if not necessarily a cement attribute of the genre. Ulcerate still strike me as black-death though because they're similar to Akercocke and Voices in many ways, the most prominent of which is that they have that odd dissonant sound.

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I thought the high-pitched vocals were at least a black metal trope if not necessarily a cement attribute of the genre. Ulcerate still strike me as black-death though because they're similar to Akercocke and Voices in many ways' date=' the most prominent of which is that they have that odd dissonant sound.[/quote'] Many people falsely attribute black metal to just a vocal style, when it is really all about the riffs and atmosphere. Many death metal bands, especially early on had high vocals, and many black metal bands early on had low vocals. The dissonance found in Voices is similar to that of Ulcerate, but that's more on the death metal side of things. I don't have any of Ulcerate's albums, but from all of the songs I've heard, I haven't detected any black metal in their sound. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

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Ah well [emoji3] 
No worries. There were a ton of recommendations made elsewhere here if you want to explore it. There are different ways to combine the two genres, some favoring different characteristics of one side or the other. If you like raw old-school death metal, Order From Chaos would be a great place to start.

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3 minutes ago, BlutAusNerd said:

They're pretty good, but I prefer their pure black metal early work.

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However, from what I have heard of their early material, I think that Nergal's voice suites the black/death style more.  Definitely some good riffs on their early material though.

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However, from what I have heard of their early material, I think that Nergal's voice suites the black/death style more.  Definitely some good riffs on their early material though.
His vocals on the early stuff are more standard black metal rasps. His vocals on the newer albums are one of the things I like least about their black/death material, they've always sounded forced to me.

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