What Are You Listening To?

[Midi]

Mgla - With Hearts Towards None

[MacabreEternal]

Aevangelist "Writhes In Murk"

[deathstorm]

Cannibal corpse a skeletal domain (album). Awsome cd

[FatherAlabaster]

That's the problem' date=' because "progressive" determines totally nothing. Any characteristic chords, structure, sound, just nothing. There's only one requirement - it must be something new, something influential for people listening to it. But with this definition we can name "progressive" for example Sex Pistols. They were first, started big movement in music. And - of course - they were heavily influented by hard rock bands, which were "progressive" some time ago. I don't wanna try to do something impossible second time. We got the same situation with Death. When I listen to Atheist, I wonder, what kind of progress did I see in Death years before. Of course, influences are slightly different, but those crazy fuckers did it better, years before Schuldiner backtracked from death metal.[/quote'] I meant to reply to this earlier. "Progressive" doesn't just refer to anything new and influential; it actually does have a specific meaning in the rock music world. You're right that it doesn't denote a particular "sound", but rather a willingness to experiment - however, there are some common hallmarks, including a strong influence from jazz and classical, which show up in chords, chord changes, key changes, rhythmic choices, and (typically longer) song structures which are outside the conventions of standard rock. Psychedelic rock was also an important influence/crossover. There's a greater focus on musicianship and non-standard instrumentation, anything from classical instruments to cutting-edge electronics. Think early Genesis, King Crimson, some Pink Floyd, etc. It was (and is) an attempt to bring rock music to a more highbrow "artistic" level. So it's not a just any fusion of styles, and certainly wouldn't apply to bands like the Sex Pistols (or for instance System Of A Down or Fear Factory), who used more aggressive sounds, in a somewhat innovative way, but in a pop format as a way to make their music palatable to a wider range of people. The influence from jazz and classical sometimes shows up in metal directly, and sometimes comes down to metal through progressive rock, but either way it's recognizable. Is every band with these influences really "progressive"? No, of course not; I agree with you that it's not a perfect descriptor, as it does break down at some point. For instance, a lot of modern tech death has most of those characteristics (weird chords, odd timing, musicianship), but they've become "stock" elements of that genre and they're no longer used in a "progressive" way in my opinion. So I think it's best used, not as a hard-and-fast genre name, but as a modifier to talk about certain bands who incorporate those outside influences, as a way of expanding the boundaries of their genre. Some of the bands that I think have genuinely deserved it, at least for some of their albums, are Opeth, Enslaved, Akercocke, Tool, Meshuggah, Cynic, Death, Atheist, and I'm sure that list could go on. I'm also sure it could be debated at great length. The bottom line is, I don't really like the term "progressive" anymore, with the way it's thrown around at the moment, but it's neither a completely meaningless term nor necessarily a genre name. It's just another adjective, and there are places where I feel it's warranted. As far as the Death/Atheist comparison, you're right that Atheist was bit more "jazzy" than Death when their debut was released in 1988; but being "progressive" isn't a competition to see who can be newest first. Even if they had a direct influence on Death, Chuck still developed and refined his own style in his own way, and he never stopped doing that.

[deathstorm]

Another jazzy metal band is panzerballett they are pretty good

[deathstorm]

Obscura retribution (album). AWSOME debut cd

[FatherAlabaster]

Atheist - Piece Of Time, followed by Decrepit Birth - Diminishing Between Worlds

[BlackFuckingMetal666]

Bolt Thrower - Mercenary album Sent from my ZTE V768 using Tapatalk 2

[BlackFuckingMetal666]

D666 - Damnation's Pride Sent from my ZTE V768 using Tapatalk 2

[GorboGorboze]

Dopelord - Lucifer's Son

[BlackFuckingMetal666]

Halcyon Way - Save Your Tears Sent from my ZTE V768 using Tapatalk 2

[BlackFuckingMetal666]

Revocation - Deathless Sent from my ZTE V768 using Tapatalk 2

[BlackFuckingMetal666]

Scarve - Translucence Sent from my ZTE V768 using Tapatalk 2

[BlackFuckingMetal666]

Jungle Rot - Slaughter the Weak

[Iceni]

Cool to see Scarve and Halcyon Way get some attention! I can't say I like that Bolt Thrower album all that much though, it seemed a bit weak last time I heard it.

[BlackFuckingMetal666]

Cool to see Scarve and Halcyon Way get some attention! I can't say I like that Bolt Thrower album all that much though' date=' it seemed a bit weak last time I heard it.[/quote'] Yea been trying to get into new genres and a friend recommended them both. Mercenary is a bit lighter than normal for Bolt Thrower but i still like it. Also like Halcyon quite a bit from what I've heard. Scarve I think im gonna have to get used to. I've been trying to listen to more by them. Any recommendations by either? Sent from my ZTE V768 using Tapatalk 2

[RelentlessOblivion]

Slayer - Hell Awaits By far Slayer's best album

[FatherAlabaster]

Ulcerate - Vermis I wish they'd had better sound live, and I wish they'd had a second guitarist. Dammit. There's so much cool stuff on here.

[Midi]

Agoraphobic Nosebleed - Honky Reduction (album)

[MacabreEternal]

Dying Fetus "Reign Supreme"

[Os Abysmi Vel Daath]

Coffinworm - When All Become None. Can't seem to stop putting this one on.

[BlackFuckingMetal666]

The Haunted - Cutting Teeth Sent from my ZTE V768 using Tapatalk 2

[RelentlessOblivion]

Symphony X - Iconoclast Only a couple of songs I like on this album, not sure if it's worth investigating their discography further

[BlackFuckingMetal666]

Condemned - Realms Of The Ungodly

[Midi]

Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (album)