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Nope it makes me want to head down the park and play footy.
How does one play footy on a bicycle? :rolleyes: I've also found a cheap Realistic keyboard which is simple yet so fun to bend that it contains some of my favorite circuit board manipulations up to this point. I might go out and search a couple more of these...
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Yeah' date=' somehow melodic metalcore and powerviolence somehow eclipse the influence and importance of punk, post-punk, anarcho-punk, d-beat, crust, crustcore, goth, industrial, neofolk, and grindcore...[/quote'] Well I think the US can kinda claim crossover, which was a huge influence on grindcore. Also slower hardcore like Black Flag which influenced sludge, post-hardcore like Fugazi was immensely influential... But i still think the UK stuff had a wider influence concerning metal. Discharge alone had such a ripple effect it's insane. Siege, Napalm Death (of course), classic glam-punk like the Adicts, skinhead culture (I'm pretty sure that originated in the UK)... the list goes on and on.
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Well I think the US can kinda claim crossover, which was a huge influence on grindcore. Also slower hardcore like Black Flag which influenced sludge, post-hardcore like Fugazi was immensely influential... But i still think the UK stuff had a wider influence concerning metal. Discharge alone had such a ripple effect it's insane. Siege, Napalm Death (of course), classic glam-punk like the Adicts, skinhead culture (I'm pretty sure that originated in the UK)... the list goes on and on.
Not only is crust likely the most influential punk genre upon extreme metal as a whole, but how can you downplay the ok influence of goth, industrial, post-punk, etc... upon metal, and how could the most influential punk from the US (early 80's hardcore) compete with that? Not saying one is better than the other, but I don't think there's any arguing which was more influential to metal and music as a whole. Also, this guy's whole thesis for stating that the UK haven't been innovators in years is because they don't have droves of bands aping Meshuggah, Isis, and Deafhaven, which is apparently the pinnacle of modern metal. Yes, I almost threw up in my mouth a little just summarizing this moron's thoughts...
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