Metalcore

[JBaker]

I was never really into Metallica tbh. I quite like the music, but for some reason Hetfield's vocals put me off, which is a bit odd: I usually favour gruff vocals over more traditional/operatic ones (Lemmy being a favourite of mine), but his seem a bit forced and, if I'm honest, it grates on me a bit.

[RelentlessOblivion]

Well put me down for, generally speaking, being a fan of albums and not of bands. I struggle to think of many bands whose entire discography appeals to me. Orphaned Land were on that list until All Is One, Mournful Congregation were on that list prior to Book Of Kings, Death would be on the list if not for Symbolic. Off the top of my head that list of bands whose entire discography I enjoy stands at: Melechesh, Angel Witch, Type O Negative, Vektor and Carnivore (although since the last two only have 2 albums each they don't really count)

[BlutAusNerd]

Re: Why doesn't Metalcore have it's own section I would say that I am a fan of a band if I dig more of their work than I dislike. Most of the bands that I'm a fan of had a short discography, it seems that it's much more common to take a dive in quality than to remain consistent, let alone improve over time. There are very few bands that I like everything they've released, but I don't like to ditch bands just because of a change either, I just need to like the change. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

[Iceni]

There are very few bands that I like everything they've released' date='[/quote'] That's true of me. Usually if I really like at least one album I'd say I'm a fan of the band unless their other work is totally different - then I specify.

[RelentlessOblivion]

I have a lot of individual albums by bands so it's harder for me to say I'm a fan of "band x". As I expand my collection that will change but for now I'm content adding new bands to my collection when I can.

[deathstorm]

Obscura fucking rocks. Chthonic. Too.

[deathstorm]

Looks like white and sticky isn't. Coming back anytime soon. Icenti. Give him another. Wedgie and takes. His lunch money. Plus heaviest of metal waiting. For him. Lets. Just say it's. robosaurs. The giant dinosaur that eats cars and spits fire.

[Neff]

Is that your phone or computer that keeps throwing those periods around?

[Neff]

That sounded... very disgusting and wrong...

[Woutjinho]

Hahahahaha!

[Neff]

[MorwenKY]

Hello! Not really addicted to metalcore but I listen some bands like Ice Nine Kills (to be honest only their last album), Shadow Fall (I hought it was deathcore but I've read here is metalcore so I give right to who know that better than me) and some others randoms.

[tkmikkelsen]

Hello! Not really addicted to metalcore but I listen some bands like Ice Nine Kills (to be honest only their last album)' date=' Shadow Fall (I hought it was deathcore but I've read here is metalcore so I give right to who know that better than me) and some others randoms.[/quote'] Shadows Fall is a thrash band (at least in my opinion). Anyway, I do enjoy some metalcore bands. As I Lay Dying I find quiet good.

[Maris_Lane]

Killswitch Engage are the gods of metalcore!!!

[RelentlessOblivion]

If by gods you mean one of many bands falsely claiming to be associated with a once legitimate genre then yes.

[Tom Bentham]

As JBaker said, some people exclude certain sub-genres and call it 'fake metal'. I like metalcore and I listen to a little bit of nu metal yet also like the likes of deathcore and death metal. I admit that I haven't found a black metal band that I like yet, so that might knock me off the ladder in some metal communities. Mention that you like metalcore on some other sites and you'll get ran off the site pretty much.

[BlutAusNerd]

As JBaker said' date=' some people exclude certain sub-genres and call it 'fake metal'. I like metalcore and I listen to a little bit of nu metal yet also like the likes of deathcore and death metal. I admit that I haven't found a black metal band that I like yet, so that might knock me off the ladder in some metal communities. Mention that you like metalcore on some other sites and you'll get ran off the site pretty much.[/quote'] I agree with excluding metalcore from the metal spectrum when the amount of actual metal in the equation is small or non-existent, as is the case with most of the more popular melodic metalcore acts of the last decade or so. As far as your listening habits go, this is a metal forum where metal should be the main topic of discussion, but I have kept other discussions from other users around so long as they are discussing metal as well. I don't think anyone here listens to metal exclusively, so there's no point in pitching a fit or banning someone for listening to something else, regardless of how bad we may think it is.

[Tom Bentham]

I agree with excluding metalcore from the metal spectrum when the amount of actual metal in the equation is small or non-existent' date=' as is the case with most of the more popular melodic metalcore acts of the last decade or so. As far as your listening habits go, this is a metal forum where metal should be the main topic of discussion, but I have kept other discussions from other users around so long as they are discussing metal as well. I don't think anyone here listens to metal exclusively, so there's no point in pitching a fit or banning someone for listening to something else, regardless of how bad we may think it is.[/quote'] When I said "ran off the site" I meant the person would possibly get hate messages from elitists and/or non-elitists (depending on the site) about the genre or about who they are and it got too much that they had to leave the site. Update on my last post, I have found a good few black metal bands that I like, particularly Dimmu Borgir. I will never be an elitist though. If I don't like a band or genre *cough*Blood on the Dancefloor*cough*, I don't like them, but I still respect everyone's music taste. Before I got into black metal, a friend of mine talked about black metal quite a bit. I respected it. Next thing I know I start listening and like it. Folk metal on the other hand, I don't like how it sounds.

[BlutAusNerd]

When I said "ran off the site" I meant the person would possibly get hate messages from elitists and/or non-elitists (depending on the site) about the genre or about who they are and it got too much that they had to leave the site. Update on my last post, I have found a good few black metal bands that I like, particularly Dimmu Borgir. I will never be an elitist though. If I don't like a band or genre *cough*Blood on the Dancefloor*cough*, I don't like them, but I still respect everyone's music taste. Before I got into black metal, a friend of mine talked about black metal quite a bit. I respected it. Next thing I know I start listening and like it. Folk metal on the other hand, I don't like how it sounds.

Yeah, we're not into that here. This is still the internet and shit talking is unavoidable, but though we all may disagree, I typically make sure to indicate that it's just my opinion and everyone is welcome to listen to whatever they want. If it does something for you, great, I just believe in calling something what it is and not lumping things together that don't belong. As far as Dimmu Borgir goes, they were really only melodic/symphonic black metal early on, their modern stuff has much more in common with melodic death metal musically. That said, they have been known to serve as a gateway for those discovering black metal, so I would definitely urge you to keep exploring. For bands that are black metal and have similar sounds to Dimmu's black metal material, give early ...And Oceans, Obtained Enslavement, Tartaros, Anorexia Nervosa, and Limbonic Art a try.

[tayorous]

Because its shit...

[BlutAusNerd]

Because its shit...

Another eloquent and in-depth response, to the surprise of no one, I'm sure.

[ODMKING]

There's plenty of good metalcore bands. Converge off the top of my head is one. Botch is decent too. I do like poison the well if they are even considered metalcore. Pig Destroyer is a great one, way more on the heavy side. I just don't think it needs its own section because it's really not very related to metal, even if it's called "metalcore". It's more on the hardcore side with metal influences and aggressiveness.

[BlutAusNerd]

There's plenty of good metalcore bands. Converge off the top of my head is one. Botch is decent too. I do like poison the well if they are even considered metalcore. Pig Destroyer is a great one, way more on the heavy side. I just don't think it needs its own section because it's really not very related to metal, even if it's called "metalcore". It's more on the hardcore side with metal influences and aggressiveness.

It depends on who it is, as there are metalcore bands that fall farther into the metal side of the spectrum. It would also certainly get more traffic than some of the other genre sections on here, but I don't have any control over the formatting here.

[RelentlessOblivion]

Technically speaking metalcore does have it's own section under the "other metal genres or more metal genres" section. It just doesn't have its own subforum which is fair enough imo.

[BrVt3l F3IdZ]

In my opinion, Metalcore doesn't have its own mostly because it's mostly a fusion genre like example: Metalcore was influenced by Melodic Death Metal with breakdowns during their song which you'll get the idea.