What's on your mind?

[Midi]

Went to the library to fetch some books on guitar playing, but they seemed partially useless, since more than half of the book handles basic composing, music theory and other stuff I was taught years ago. I might look up some klezmer-inspired guitar ideas, since I've always loved that music...

[RelentlessOblivion]

It's officially tomorrow, I have uni, I'm insanely tired and yet for whatever reason can't sleep.

[Midi]

Depiction of the hierarchy among entities in Christian artwork.

[FatherAlabaster]

Depiction of the hierarchy among entities in Christian artwork.

What artwork, specifically?

[Midi]

What artwork' date=' specifically?[/quote'] Paintings, drawings, statues, etc. through the ages and the symbolism and attributes that match the status (saint, human, angel, God...)

[FatherAlabaster]

Paintings' date=' drawings, statues, etc. through the ages and the symbolism and attributes that match the status (saint, human, angel, God...)[/quote'] Any pieces in particular that caught your interest? I've been fascinated with Van Eyck's Ghent altarpiece, and recently found a website with extremely high resolution images of all the panels. It's beautiful, the level of detail is amazing. Google "Closer to Van Eyck" if you want to see it.

[Midi]

Well, I was thinking: saints have attributes and angels are depicted with wings for example. God however, doesn't have a specific constant factor, except for his person himself. I was asking myself whether there is a possibly antropocentristic relationship with people who usually are being depicted without any constant symbolic attributes either

[deathstorm]

I have a couple of paintings.

[RelentlessOblivion]

Well' date=' I was thinking: saints have attributes and angels are depicted with wings for example. God however, doesn't have a specific constant factor, except for his person himself. I was asking myself whether there is a possibly antropocentristic relationship with people who usually are being depicted without any constant symbolic attributes either[/quote'] Perhaps, as Christians believe mankind was created in God's image, the artists of the time felt no one identifying trait was appropriate. Reading into this further it could be the artist suggesting that God is inherit in man.

[FatherAlabaster]

Well' date=' I was thinking: saints have attributes and angels are depicted with wings for example. God however, doesn't have a specific constant factor, except for his person himself. I was asking myself whether there is a possibly antropocentristic relationship with people who usually are being depicted without any constant symbolic attributes either[/quote'] You might be reading too much into it. First, I'm not sure that applies to the earliest Christian art. There are significant differences between the early art and depictions from the medieval period on, in style and symbology. Second, it makes sense for narrative purposes that artists would try to make the characters they portrayed as easily identifiable as possible; so saints were depicted with items related to their supposed miracles or martyrdom, and specific angels were given articles associated with them in various legends, much like depictions of gods in other cultures (for instance in Hindu art). Also, the Christian god is always male, and at least in my knowledge is pictured as being bigger than the other figures, and usually is given a central location, so it's not entirely accurate that there aren't specific attributes associated with him in art. And last, you're talking about a human-formed representation of a deity who's supposedly responsible for the creation of the human species, possesses at least some human emotions, and is deeply concerned with our behavior and welfare... of course it's anthropocentric. I don't think you can expand that to a general principle of human art throughout history, though.

[RelentlessOblivion]

More then one of us may read more into art then is actually there. Putting my hand up there.

[RelentlessOblivion]

It took all my willpower to not walk over and punch the asshole making jokes about the Israel-Palestine situation, saying he hopes hamas flatten Israel and insulting anyone who took offence to his remarks. Just because you have the right to free speech in Australia does not mean you should use it to spread hatred and evil.

[Iceni]

I always wanted to see a Jesus who just looked like crap...you know, wiry hair, no facial hair, a weak jaw, hooked nose, lanky frame, a paunch, bad posture. Everybody wants a sexy Christ, but I was under the impression that he was not a man of kingly aspect.

[RelentlessOblivion]

So basically your ideal portrayal of Jesus is Professor Snape?

[Midi]

Good news is the weather is nice and there are 4 different beers in my refrigerator to chose from. Bad news is that I'm having trouble with the cramped feeling of finger positions of guitar chords because the strings are so close together. That and having cut my thumb accidentally at work this morning doesn't make it easier.

[deathstorm]

Midi get one of hand exceriser things

[Midi]

Midi get one of hand exceriser things

This is the first time I've heard of such a thing?

[FatherAlabaster]

This is the first time I've heard of such a thing?

They're these little spring-loaded grip exercisers that you squeeze to build up hand strength. Some of them have individual buttons for each finger. But since you play cello, your hand strength is probably fine, you just need to get used to the setup of the guitar. Start with some basic chords at the low end of the neck, and try moving bar chords around as well.

[Midi]

They're these little spring-loaded grip exercisers that you squeeze to build up hand strength. Some of them have individual buttons for each finger. But since you play cello' date=' your hand strength is probably fine, you just need to get used to the setup of the guitar. Start with some basic chords at the low end of the neck, and try moving bar chords around as well.[/quote'] There's indeed nothing noticeably wrong with the strength of my hand. The weight of the strings is practically nihil compared to the heavier ones I'm used to. It will take some time to get used to the more horizontally confined area to place my fingers. Thanks for the tip!

[deathstorm]

Midi. Get heavier strings as well

[Frostaudn]

Spotted Satan's car in Germany Anyways, I have a very great time here

[deathstorm]

Cool yobo that's. Wicked

[Midi]

Midi. Get heavier strings as well

I intend to look into it (or downtuning my guitar). With my guitar being as it is now, I'm not quite satisfied with the limits of the low register in standard tuning.

[RelentlessOblivion]

I actually use a lighter gauge string then the standard used on guitar. As I want to play doom I will need to switch for heavier gauge strings though.

[Iceni]

So basically your ideal portrayal of Jesus is Professor Snape?

I would love to see Alan Rickman play Jesus...