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Over hyped rubbish that is Slipknot. Cool name and costumes but that's as far as it goes for me :!:
Huh. I don't even get that far. Boring name, stupid costumes and lousy music. Except for the drummer. Poor guy. He's all alone in a sea of rubbish. On a Toxic Garbage Island, as Gojira might say.

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Re: Slipknot ?? if slipknot lost their drummer to a good band (oh please let that happen) they'd be worse then korn, presently they are .1% better then korn, honestly all nu-metal bands should just quit making music right now so we can finally bring some respect back to metal

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if slipknot lost their drummer to a good band (oh please let that happen) they'd be worse then korn' date=' presently they are .1% better then korn, honestly all nu-metal bands should just quit making music right now so we can finally bring some respect back to metal[/quote'] Joey Jordison played live drums for Ministry when I saw them on the a few years back and he wasn't bad, but Ministry would have kicked ass regardless of who was playing, Al Jourgensen is one of the most intense frontmen I've ever witnessed.

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Re: Slipknot ?? I wouldn't call Slipknot Nu Metal - they aren't punchy enough and they play real solos. I guess they're sort of Metalcore but with a hefty dollop of Black/Death Metal (What on earth is the difference - little help!) I have the All Hope Is Gone Album and think it's pretty awesome. I especially love the control over the fast chord progressions, furiously fast but clean and distinct 8-). (Man I'm uncool :lol: !)

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I wouldn't call Slipknot Nu Metal - they aren't punchy enough and they play real solos. I guess they're sort of Metalcore but with a hefty dollop of Black/Death Metal (What on earth is the difference - little help!) I have the All Hope Is Gone Album and think it's pretty awesome. I especially love the control over the fast chord progressions' date=' furiously fast but clean and distinct 8-). (Man I'm uncool :lol: !)[/quote'] They're really not much different from Korn, despite that they occasionally play at higher tempos, they still use a similarly mindless riffing pattern and hip-hop derived rhythmic vocal patterns like Korn. Supposedly a few of the members of Slipknot played death metal in the 90's, but that's like saying that Apollyon Sun is black metal because one of the members was in Hellhammer. Slipknot really try their hardest to be as annoying as possible though, half of their members do absolutely nothing, their masks and outfits are nothing more than devices to garner attention from the "outsider crowd", and they claim to be something they're not without even really trying to prove their claims: the claim that they are a metal band.

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Re: Slipknot ?? Murph 1990, Thanks for the examples - so death is sort of heavier and more brutal than black though both are definately freed of the restrictions of thrash? I have to disagree with you about Slipknot - they sound absolutely nothing like Korn (what happens if the band members rub their scalps? You get Kornflakes). I know that you don't like them but no, there is no musical similairty between the bands whatsoever - Korn spend most of the time sounding like drunk men jamming (not always bad ;) ) while Slipknot do write carefully constructed songs. Besides, on the image front they are totally different, one's theatrical and the other specialises in trying not to look bothered.

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Re: Slipknot ?? there are some death-thrash and black-thrash crossovers but since I'm sort of rediscovering death and black metal I thought it would be quicker to go with what I know, there are some positively brutal black metal bands out there, just as there are some more toned down death metal bands out there, particularly when it comes to melodic death metal, as for slipknot you're right there is a lot of hate here for them and whilst there may be some differences between them and korn there are also similarites, both attempt to take metal in a direction it simply is not meant to go, korn attempt to combine it with elements of hip hop and slipknot attempt (although less so then some other bands) to take it mainstream, I mean really are slipknot are is a 21st century KISS (a band which I used to like and now despise)

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Murph 1990, Thanks for the examples - so death is sort of heavier and more brutal than black though both are definately freed of the restrictions of thrash? I have to disagree with you about Slipknot - they sound absolutely nothing like Korn (what happens if the band members rub their scalps? You get Kornflakes). I know that you don't like them but no, there is no musical similairty between the bands whatsoever - Korn spend most of the time sounding like drunk men jamming (not always bad ;) ) while Slipknot do write carefully constructed songs. Besides, on the image front they are totally different, one's theatrical and the other specialises in trying not to look bothered.
I'm not talking about the performance level itself, which is abysmal on both fronts, but their riffing patterns, drum/guitar interactions, and vocal lines are very similarly constructed, despite sometimes being played at different speeds. The image they're both going for isn't really any different, it's a superficial marketing ploy to entrance the teen angst of the day, which in the mid 90's looked like Korn did, and now in the Hot Topic generation, it looks like Slipknot. If you put the minor musical differences aside (which honestly isn't their focus anyhow) and see them both for what they were doing, they're both attempting to cash in on the success of mainstream metal bands by marketing "heavy music" to confused children who mostly have no interest in metal. While I do know of a few cases of people who warmed up to heavy music with bands like Slipknot before moving on to heavier things, the most frequent thing that happens is when the trend fades, the next band wagon is jumped upon or simply abandoned entirely. I hear of many more people saying that they were Korn and Slipknot fans than people that currently are fans of the two bands.

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Re: Slipknot ?? Actually, talking of people who really get on one's wick by their very being, perfomance and music, for me it's Marylin Manson. A childish, talentless poser, he really is for me the empitemy of Metal for non Metal fans. All guitar-light, Devil-loving, Nazi-philic nonsense all topped off by a man who thinks he's very shocking but is actually just childish and annoying in the extreme. Just rubbish for silly teens and immature adults - the man covered Soft Cell's Tainted Love for crying out loud! Do not like :evil: !

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Re: Slipknot ?? my response whenever someone says I'm being immature is always this "I'm not being immature, I'm being fun, you should try it some time" getting back to the topic at hand I suppose slipknot are marginally better then some of the other mainstream metal bands out here but they are still a dreadful band that only manage to drag down the credibility of all forms of metal with their pathetic attempts to make metal appeal to the justin timberlake fans (oh and please excuse the use of that name, its making me want to throw up)

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If you put the minor musical differences aside (which honestly isn't their focus anyhow) and see them both for what they were doing' date=' they're both attempting to cash in on the success of mainstream metal bands by marketing "heavy music" to confused children who mostly have no interest in metal. [/quote'] Agreed. And this makes them ignore proper metal because they think they've already heard it. :evil: Apparently Korn worked with Skrillex at some point, which seems like one car in the bandwagon train hooking up to the other...

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