Slipknot ??

[RelentlessOblivion]

Re: Slipknot ?? afraid we can't do that, it's our duty to save others from bad metal

[The Strategos]

Re: Slipknot ?? And this coming from the guy who likes Pantera!?!?! (O.K. I like that song about being heartbroken - I got it off a compilation)

[RelentlessOblivion]

Re: Slipknot ?? mate it's one blemish on a very metal record

[The Strategos]

Re: Slipknot ?? Fair enough - though I think that you should wear your Pantera stripes proudly !

[RelentlessOblivion]

Re: Slipknot ?? I stick up for Pantera wherever possible, even though it seems I'm the only Pantera fan on the entire forum

[Iceni]

Re: Slipknot ??

Fair enough - though I think that you should wear your Pantera stripes proudly !

Panthers don't have stripes.

I stick up for Pantera wherever possible' date=' even though it seems I'm the only Pantera fan on the entire forum[/quote'] Apoc (one of the mods) and NTNR had a long, long argument about Pantera on one thread. Pantera is Apoc's favorite band last I remember.

[RelentlessOblivion]

Re: Slipknot ?? speaking of which Apoc has been missing in action for a while now

[NTNR]

Re: Slipknot ?? Probably listening to that djent shit.

[BlutAusNerd]

Re: Slipknot ??

I stick up for Pantera wherever possible' date=' even though it seems I'm the only Pantera fan on the entire forum[/quote'] I like Pantera, I just think they're overrated and had more of a negative impact on metal as a whole than a positive one. Vulgar Display of Power stripped metal down to a very ignorant caveman-esque impression that nu-metal bands took to more sickening extremes, and it's just not very well written overall. My favorite albums of their are Power Metal for its Priest worshiping awesomeness, and The Great Southern Trendkill for its mastery of the groovy path they set out on in the 90's, it's easily their most intense, emotional, and original album.

[RelentlessOblivion]

Re: Slipknot ?? Trendkill has most of my favourite Pantera songs on it, and some of the most interesting ones like 10's and Floods, plus War Nerve, but Cowboys From Hell is, in my opinion, their best, Power Metal probably ties with Trendkill for me I will however admit that Pantera have influenced far more bad bands then good ones

[Iceni]

Re: Slipknot ??

Probably listening to that djent shit.

Actually, I think he is, his most recent posts have been to beef up the djent section.

[BlutAusNerd]

Re: Slipknot ??

Trendkill has most of my favourite Pantera songs on it, and some of the most interesting ones like 10's and Floods, plus War Nerve, but Cowboys From Hell is, in my opinion, their best, Power Metal probably ties with Trendkill for me I will however admit that Pantera have influenced far more bad bands then good ones

I was also referencing the two part Suicide Note song, which I think is some of their best material. That album just has such a huge addictive groove to it, it feels more genuine than dumbed down as it did before. Cowboys is good too, I've maybe just become a bit burn out on it after all of these years.

[RelentlessOblivion]

Re: Slipknot ?? Cowboys does start to seem a bit stale over time, Trendkill certainly has more staying power

[NTNR]

Re: Slipknot ??

Actually, I think he is, his most recent posts have been to beef up the djent section.

Like I said.

[Metallisydän]

Today I’m gonna be doubly hated, haha. Okei, here it goes… First of all, I do not care if you hate a band very much or just a little, I think all you shoul show respect, a wonderful thing. This is a metalheads’ forum, not a forum to compete about who is the most rude or who throws more rubbish through their mouths. I do hate Kiss, and I don’t go to Kiss thread to say they are shit to me ‘cause that’s not what we are here to. Let’s be persons, not animals, please. Secondly, Slipknot is no Nu-Metal for me. I don’t know what they do, but I do like them as well. If you don’t like them and you think I should be killed for liking them, it’s your opinion, I don’t mind. As I’ve said a thousand times, I’m not good distinguishing the subgenres, but I don’t really like Nu-Metal (as Rage Against the Machine, they tire me easily), but these guys in fact are different. And I haven’t heard but one song from Korn, but I’m sure that they aren’t the same. PS: I am a Pantera’s fan too. And liking Slipknot and Pantera are compatible. I just hate when people insult bands who aren’t in their taste. Let us be! No one has asked you for liking them too!

[H34VYM3T4LD4V3]

Re: Slipknot ?? you speak the truth i am glad you are like that instead of hating bands, you sound like a really nice person lol XD

[Metallisydän]

Hahaha thanks

[BlutAusNerd]

Re: Slipknot ??

Today I’m gonna be doubly hated, haha. Okei, here it goes… First of all, I do not care if you hate a band very much or just a little, I think all you shoul show respect, a wonderful thing. This is a metalheads’ forum, not a forum to compete about who is the most rude or who throws more rubbish through their mouths. I do hate Kiss, and I don’t go to Kiss thread to say they are shit to me ‘cause that’s not what we are here to. Let’s be persons, not animals, please. Secondly, Slipknot is no Nu-Metal for me. I don’t know what they do, but I do like them as well. If you don’t like them and you think I should be killed for liking them, it’s your opinion, I don’t mind. As I’ve said a thousand times, I’m not good distinguishing the subgenres, but I don’t really like Nu-Metal (as Rage Against the Machine, they tire me easily), but these guys in fact are different. And I haven’t heard but one song from Korn, but I’m sure that they aren’t the same. PS: I am a Pantera’s fan too. And liking Slipknot and Pantera are compatible. I just hate when people insult bands who aren’t in their taste. Let us be! No one has asked you for liking them too!

Nobody is giving you shit, but that doesn't mean we can't do the same to bands we can't stand. You're not the only Slipknot fan here, I'm not sure why you guys get so defensive about a band you like, it's not directed at you. And no, I don't have to respect their music, and I have no problem saying that I don't respect a pop music band that has sold themselves to the public as metal because they wear "scary masks". I do, however, respect your right to listen to whatever the hell you want, and you should respect my right to do the same. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

[Metallisydän]

Nobody is giving you shit' date=' but that doesn't mean we can't do the same to bands we can't stand. You're not the only Slipknot fan here, I'm not sure why you guys get so defensive about a band you like, it's not directed at you. And no, I don't have to respect their music, and I have no problem saying that I don't respect a pop music band that has sold themselves to the public as metal because they wear "scary masks". I do, however, respect your right to listen to whatever the hell you want, and you should respect my right to do the same.[/quote'] I never said it was directed to me, sorry if what I said was missunderstandable. You may not have get to the point where I wanted to arrive... As you said in "anti nu-metal" thread, "if you don't like it, don't hear it", hrm? You don't have to like the band. It's okei with me, as it's okei with you. But going to a specific post about the band just to say "they're rubbish" or "the singer is an asshole", or stuff like that; it is just too much. This is a metal forum. I do not pretend to make people believe we like all the same bands, 'cause obviously we do not, but I hoped that in a metalhead community such as this people wouldn't be as stupid as to go to the thread about a band just to say rubbish. You can dislike the band, but you shouldn't show your hatred as if it was going to make you seem cooler. Because, first of all, it does not. And, secondly, it doesn't change that they win tons of money more than you or me. They can seem sold to you. I respect that, and maybe you're right, but I ask for temperance when expressing oppinions. It's not nice to come here and see a lot of strong insults and so on. Where's education in there, huh?

[Dj Anubis]

My only two cents on this is unless a member is breaking the rules regarding forum etiquette on here than they should be able to express themselves on how they feel about a band either good or bad. The way i look at it is as long as its not being directed at the actual poster than the band should be free game for criticism. Having opinions doesnt mean you should only state good things about a band. I would like to think this forum is like some others and allows the freedom for one to express themselves without getting some kind of lecture just because they dont like or respect a certain band. Plainly put, if Blut thinks that Slipknot is a crappy and garbage band he should have the freedom to do so without someone trying to tell him he shouldnt. If he is breaking some sort of forum rule than maybe a mod or admin can speak to him on that but i highly doubt thats the case here. We all have favorite bands or artists and not everyone is going to like them and sometimes people even insult them. But, dont take it personally as it doesnt effect you one way or the other. Ive seen people trash Devin Townsend before but it doesnt mean im going to stop listening to him or appreciating his work because of it. Just sounds like some of you guys need a bit of thicker skin.

[BlutAusNerd]

I never said it was directed to me' date=' sorry if what I said was missunderstandable. You may not have get to the point where I wanted to arrive... As you said in "anti nu-metal" thread, "if you don't like it, don't hear it", hrm? You don't have to like the band. It's okei with me, as it's okei with you. But going to a specific post about the band just to say "they're rubbish" or "the singer is an asshole", or stuff like that; it is just too much. This is a metal forum. I do not pretend to make people believe we like all the same bands, 'cause obviously we do not, but I hoped that in a metalhead community such as this people wouldn't be as stupid as to go to the thread about a band just to say rubbish. You can dislike the band, but you shouldn't show your hatred as if it was going to make you seem cooler. Because, first of all, it does not. And, secondly, it doesn't change that they win tons of money more than you or me. They can seem sold to you. I respect that, and maybe you're right, but I ask for temperance when expressing oppinions. It's not nice to come here and see a lot of strong insults and so on. Where's education in there, huh?[/quote'] You'll notice that almost without fail (I am human and do slip), I typically talk about how I don't like the band or aspects of the band, as opposed to saying that they suck or that they're bad. Those are qualifiers that simply don't exist regarding subjective topics, its appeal is based entirely on how it's perceived, and my perception of them is what I'm commenting on. I could just as easily be offending by you liking Slipknot while I don't, it's just as ludicrous of a statement. Nobody has hurled any insults at you, nor even really at the band, I've even stated that the ones that play instruments are actually good musicians. They're obviously doing something right, as I'm in the minority with my opinion and they sell a shitload of records and merch, but my problem lies with the music. Not only do I not like it, I feel that they receive unfair credit for plagiarizing things that I do like in a cheap way and marketing/representing it as the same thing. They're obviously gifted advertisers and marketers, and another of my problems lies with that being their focus as opposed to their music. Either way, this is all my opinion, and whether you like it or not, it remains unchanged. As DJ Anubis below me said, you just need to grow some thicker skin and realize that nothing is being directed at you, and there's no reason to get pissed off because someone doesn't like something that you do and voices that opinion.

[RelentlessOblivion]

expressing opinions is the POINT OF FORUMS and people will inevitably have different opinions on different matters.

[Mecca]

Today I’m gonna be doubly hated, haha. Okei, here it goes… First of all, I do not care if you hate a band very much or just a little, I think all you shoul show respect, a wonderful thing. This is a metalheads’ forum, not a forum to compete about who is the most rude or who throws more rubbish through their mouths. I do hate Kiss, and I don’t go to Kiss thread to say they are shit to me ‘cause that’s not what we are here to. Let’s be persons, not animals, please. Secondly, Slipknot is no Nu-Metal for me. I don’t know what they do, but I do like them as well. If you don’t like them and you think I should be killed for liking them, it’s your opinion, I don’t mind. As I’ve said a thousand times, I’m not good distinguishing the subgenres, but I don’t really like Nu-Metal (as Rage Against the Machine, they tire me easily), but these guys in fact are different. And I haven’t heard but one song from Korn, but I’m sure that they aren’t the same. PS: I am a Pantera’s fan too. And liking Slipknot and Pantera are compatible. I just hate when people insult bands who aren’t in their taste. Let us be! No one has asked you for liking them too!

That's a very good post man - I have much the same philosophy. I think any music should be compatible with each other. At the same time though, this is a forum for discussion so differences in opinion are inevitable which is why I joined in the first place. I like to hear why people disagree (or agree) and so I can try understand things from their perspective too. I love the debate and discussion (not mindless hate, but well thought out opinions based on solid reasoning).

[Mecca]

Nobody is giving you shit, but that doesn't mean we can't do the same to bands we can't stand. You're not the only Slipknot fan here, I'm not sure why you guys get so defensive about a band you like, it's not directed at you. And no, I don't have to respect their music, and I have no problem saying that I don't respect a pop music band that has sold themselves to the public as metal because they wear "scary masks". I do, however, respect your right to listen to whatever the hell you want, and you should respect my right to do the same. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

You got it right about respect. I don't think anything/anyone deserves respect just because someone likes it. I mean, I'm not going automatically just respect someones political ideology, views on religion or music preference. But I will engage in constructive dialogue for discussion and leave them to their views.

[Mecca]

My only two cents on this is unless a member is breaking the rules regarding forum etiquette on here than they should be able to express themselves on how they feel about a band either good or bad. The way i look at it is as long as its not being directed at the actual poster than the band should be free game for criticism. Having opinions doesnt mean you should only state good things about a band. I would like to think this forum is like some others and allows the freedom for one to express themselves without getting some kind of lecture just because they dont like or respect a certain band. Plainly put, if Blut thinks that Slipknot is a crappy and garbage band he should have the freedom to do so without someone trying to tell him he shouldnt. If he is breaking some sort of forum rule than maybe a mod or admin can speak to him on that but i highly doubt thats the case here. We all have favorite bands or artists and not everyone is going to like them and sometimes people even insult them. But, dont take it personally as it doesnt effect you one way or the other. Ive seen people trash Devin Townsend before but it doesnt mean im going to stop listening to him or appreciating his work because of it. Just sounds like some of you guys need a bit of thicker skin.

Really well put DJ Anubis. This place already has far better etiquette than say YouTube so I can;t really complain!