What Are You Listening To?

[markm]

Dead is a complex, troubled dude. At one time I thought he was pretty much an educated white supremist neo Nazi type dressed up in work clothes with his love war as the most successful human endeavor in its innovation of human progress and belief that Caucasians organize their societies more effectively than brown skinned ethnic groups shit.  Then, he was on good behavior more recently. 

OK, you skudmuffins are breaking my new release flow and so I'm checking out some of y'alls shit:

Komodus/ Wreath of Bleeding Snowfall-I don't hate this by any stretch 3 tracks in and could grow on me. 

Summoned by the goat god gave this one a listen-Rorcal/Silence-Ah yes, a blackened post sludge sort of album here....a bit like LLNN with a blackened stretched out sludge vibe. Pretty cool 3 tracks in or so.  

 

[AlSymerz]

Apocalyptic Annihilation - Necrothrash

Apparently this has some sort of black shading so all you BM's should listen to it 😜

[RelentlessOblivion]

Apocalyptic Annihilation - Necrothrash (2023)

 

yep blackened thrash, our little orca is growing up…🤣

[AlSymerz]

You betcha! I look forward to being like the rest of you, sitting in the corner dribbling from swollen gums and sitting is a puddle of my own piss.

[Innominate]

Sinister - Diabolical Summoning

Necropolis - The Evil Never Dies

Coffin Texts - Gods of Creation, Death & Afterlife

Bathym - Into Darkness

[Arioch]

Possessed - Beyond the Gates (1986)

 

[RelentlessOblivion]

2 hours ago, Innominate said:

Sinister - Diabolical Summoning

Necropolis - The Evil Never Dies

Coffin Texts - Gods of Creation, Death & Afterlife

Bathym - Into Darkness

 

1 hour ago, Arioch said:

Possessed - Beyond the Gates (1986)

 

That Sinister album is great, killer DM. Re Possessed I think seven churches is a pretty great album, but I can’t say I enjoy any of their other work that much.

 

 

[Arioch]

Occult - Of Flesh and Blood (1999)

 

1 minute ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

That Sinister album is great, killer DM. Re Possessed I think seven churches is a pretty great album, but I can’t say I enjoy any of their other work that much.

I also prefer Seven Churches. I don't really listen to their last album, which I think came out 4 years ago. The sound is too clean, too perfect, it doesn't fit.

[Arioch]

Necrophagist - Epitaph (2004)

 

[Arioch]

Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas (1994)

 

[GoatmasterGeneral]

6 hours ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

Apocalyptic Annihilation - Necrothrash (2023)

 

yep blackened thrash, our little orca is growing up…🤣

Next week we can teach him about blackened death and how to be an elitist gatekeeper.

[RelentlessOblivion]

6 minutes ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Next week we can teach him about blackened death and how to be an elitist gatekeeper.

Given my pension for consuming copious quantities of black and death metal, it is somewhat ironic that I really don’t enjoy much blackened DM, even I don’t understand my taste in music sometimes…

[Nasty_Cabbage]

NP: Chrome Waves - The Earth Will Shed Its Skin

** disorder recordings ** (disorder-recordings.com)

 

[GoatmasterGeneral]

22 minutes ago, Nasty_Cabbage said:

Chrome Waves - The Earth Will Shed Its Skin

Usually you'll say a few words about an album you post. You didn't here, but I liked the cover so I went to the trouble of dialing it up anyway just to find it's post-metal. You could have just said so and saved me the disappointment Cab.

 

 

Decayed (Portugal) - Apocryphal Spells EP

 

[markm]

From the many things you might have missed in 2023 listings: Kurelty/Untopia/Japanese OSDM with an obvious Swededeath nod along with some hardcore and doom. Pretty good. 

Sermon/Of Golden Verse-progressive metal but clearly not limited to prog fans-heavy melodic dark gothic rock maybe...Katonia'ish but hits heavier than todays Katatonia. Some Toolisms, Porcupine Tree. This has some appeal for me, but on the softer part the vocals, like a lot of prog vox is way too pristine and saccharine and I feel like I'm listening to a Richard Marx pop song, ugh. 

 

[Arioch]

Krisiun - AssassiNation (2006)

 

[Arioch]

Anata - Under a Stone with No Inscription (2004)

 

[JonoBlade]

NP - Black Sabbath - Tyr (LP, it's lunchtime and away from work computer)

...and instead tapping out my thoughts on the de(ad)bacle...

18 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Just to add my two cents....I think Deadly is the kind of person who once banned would never come back even if we begged him. Even when after several warnings FA publicly told him to cool it lest he be forced to discipline him, his response was fine go ahead and ban me I'm done. I'm sure he feels he's been treated unfairly as any of us would if we were banned from a forum we had been a daily regular on for a couple of years. But I do remember him saying he'd been banned from lots of different places online so this seems to be his M.O. He says his piece and lets the chips fall where they may. And quite often those chips land him on the receiving end of the ban hammer.

And believe me I do quite like to argue politics myself. I'm extremely opinionated and it can get heated at times. So I've just had to find somewhere else on the internet to do that. I don't personally see why it's such a big deal, but they've made it pretty clear they don't want that kind of thing here. And like it or not we all need to respect that.

I think you're right that he wouldn't return, especially if going though a hyper-stubborn phase.

Personally, I couldn't face finding "somewhere else on the internet" to talk politics or the like. One of the reasons I feel a partitioned rant space on a metal forum  is worthwhile is that any debate starts from a position of common ground: a love of metal. Political and cultural divides are secondary to metal. That's quite a rare opportunity. With common ground there is an actual chance of changing someone's mind or growing as a person by exposure to outside ideas.

Even Dead and GG can agree Ride the Lightning is ace. 

16 hours ago, FatherAlabaster said:

Well said, both from you and @MacabreEternal. 

Dead would still be here if he could have left the violent rhetoric and bigoted comments out of his posts. He posted a bunch of other annoying crap and had a bunch of doubtless fun and fulfilling arguments on the back of it, and nobody handed him infractions over it. If he cared enough about talking with you guys, he could have swallowed a small amount of his pride, left the anti-Asian/anti-Aboriginal comments and "we need a society where everyone who doesn't follow my rules gets executed" bullshit at the door, and he'd still be here telling us all about how metal has lost its teeth and needs gatekeepers while posting Lamb Of God albums. All I asked him to do was edit himself. He was more interested in pushing to see how much he could get away with. He's not the first person to do this here and he doubtless won't be the last. I'm sorry for you guys that feel like you lost a friend but he wore out his welcome fair and square. 

I don't doubt this is what happened. So it's a shame. 

I must have missed the more outrageous recent posts. However, I always felt that these racially charged comments (that he should have kept to himself) were against a background of also loathing his own culture. This is why I never got offended by anything he said because generally he wasn't trying to say his kind was superior. 

Chinese, Indian, Russian - all are shit cultures. And white/western culture is the most shittest of all.  He understood that, but admittedly the expression of that core concept could get lost in other ludicrous statements.

I think @MacabreEternal and @markm somehow suggested Dead is or was some right wing nut. A lot of the time he was practically communist. He was not someone you could put in one box which is why I found it all so fascinating, despite the ludicrous statements.

 

13 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Thing about Deadly is he was an acquired taste. Took me a long time to stop thinking he was an asshole when he first showed up on Metal-Fi because he posted a lot of nonsense that I vehemently disagreed with. For a long time I thought he was your typical hard-headed, intolerant, narrow-minded, racist, right-winger type and for awhile I used to wish he'd just leave on his own.

But over time I found him to be fun to debate and argue with. And he never seemed to take stuff personally or get butt hurt over anything so he was "safe" to argue with. And we had plenty to argue about as it seemed we disagreed on nearly everything. 

I just really enjoy a spirited debate with those who are up for that. And Deadly was certainly up for it. But life goes on.

This. He could deal it out, but take it too. 

I realise none of this is going anywhere now. But you see, it's these kinds of debates about non-metal topics and the exchange of ideas that keeps me engaged. I can't come here just to agree with JamesT that KK still rocks all the time.

I accept that in this case Dead made his bed and now has to slumber deadly in it. I just wish I had a chance to say goodbye so he knew that some random person on the internet had his day brightened a few times by the banter. I wish him all the best. If it were possible to pass on a message and supply my email address just to say that I'd be grateful.

Adios smashed crab. 

[MarkhantonioYeatts]

SUPERSUCKERS - The Evil Powers Of Rock'N'Roll

 

[GoatmasterGeneral]

59 minutes ago, JonoBlade said:

NP - Black Sabbath - Tyr (LP, it's lunchtime and away from work computer)

...and instead tapping out my thoughts on the de(ad)bacle...

I think you're right that he wouldn't return, especially if going though a hyper-stubborn phase.

Personally, I couldn't face finding "somewhere else on the internet" to talk politics or the like. One of the reasons I feel a partitioned rant space on a metal forum  is worthwhile is that any debate starts from a position of common ground: a love of metal. Political and cultural divides are secondary to metal. That's quite a rare opportunity. With common ground there is an actual chance of changing someone's mind or growing as a person by exposure to outside ideas.

Even Dead and GG can agree Ride the Lightning is ace. 

I don't doubt this is what happened. So it's a shame. 

I must have missed the more outrageous recent posts. However, I always felt that these racially charged comments (that he should have kept to himself) were against a background of also loathing his own culture. This is why I never got offended by anything he said because generally he wasn't trying to say his kind was superior. 

Chinese, Indian, Russian - all are shit cultures. And white/western culture is the most shittest of all.  He understood that, but admittedly the expression of that core concept could get lost in other ludicrous statements.

I think @MacabreEternal and @markm somehow suggested Dead is or was some right wing nut. A lot of the time he was practically communist. He was not someone you could put in one box which is why I found it all so fascinating, despite the ludicrous statements.

 

This. He could deal it out, but take it too. 

I realise none of this is going anywhere now. But you see, it's these kinds of debates about non-metal topics and the exchange of ideas that keeps me engaged. I can't come here just to agree with JamesT that KK still rocks all the time.

I accept that in this case Dead made his bed and now has to slumber deadly in it. I just wish I had a chance to say goodbye so he knew that some random person on the internet had his day brightened a few times by the banter. I wish him all the best. If it were possible to pass on a message and supply my email address just to say that I'd be grateful.

Adios smashed crab. 

It's true that Deadly did view himself as a far left-winger, but his personal version of left-wing ideology he'd developed was all wrapped up in xenophobia, racism, self-loathing, bizarre genocidal authoritarian fantasies and a love of warfare and all things to do with the history of warfare. Now I also happen to identify as a far left-winger, and none of that meshes with my views of left-wing ideology. The only view he espoused that I thought matched up with one of my left-wing views is that governments don't have our best interests at heart, they're inherently corrupt and they're screwing us all.

The man has issues, there's a war going on inside his head. I understand he had a really rough upbringing, spent some time in a war zone, had a dysfunctional family, lived in some shitty neighborhoods growing up and understandably all that's shaped him into a pretty twisted and angry individual.

You're right that he did use this place as some kind of therapy, (don't we all to some extent?) probably because he felt he could say stuff here to strangers that he couldn't say to his family or coworkers. But the vitriol he had for the human race (himself included) and all his xenophobic and genocidal fantasies were inappropriate for a public forum. Ironically the man works in the mental health field, he should probably seek some actual therapy which would provide him with a more appropriate private forum in which to work out his issues and air his toxic thoughts instead of just spewing his frustrations and fantasies out all over a public forum.

I feel kinda bad now that it took his banishment for me to urge him to seek help. I should have told him this when he was still here. I guess I had gotten so used to his vitriolic rantings after 8 years that I didn't ever stop to think this man needs some kind of help. I suspect he would have strongly resisted this idea, but I hope someone close to him tells him and I hope he can get some help.

But we can still talk about non metal topics Jon, I'll be happy to engage you on just about any topic you'd like. I've always enjoyed talking to you in the past and I'm quite happy that you're still here and part of our little gang even if some others are not. You feel free to post about whatever's on your mind Jon-O Blade and you know I'll come sticking my goat snout into it before too long.

[MarkhantonioYeatts]

GRAVERIPPER - Seasons Dreaming Death

....these dudes always slap straight fyre....

[GoatmasterGeneral]

9 minutes ago, MarkhantonioYeatts said:

SUPERSUCKERS - The Evil Powers of Rock'N'Roll

One of the best rock & roll records or punk rock records (or whatever the fuck you wanna call 'em) of all time. There's no way one can just sit calmly in their chair when this record is playing. You gotta keep it loose.

 

Social Distortion - White Light White Heat White Trash, 1996 Fullerton California. This is another one for me.

 

[markm]

2 hours ago, JonoBlade said:

NP - Black Sabbath - Tyr (LP, it's lunchtime and away from work computer)

...and instead tapping out my thoughts on the de(ad)bacle...

I think you're right that he wouldn't return, especially if going though a hyper-stubborn phase.

Personally, I couldn't face finding "somewhere else on the internet" to talk politics or the like. One of the reasons I feel a partitioned rant space on a metal forum  is worthwhile is that any debate starts from a position of common ground: a love of metal. Political and cultural divides are secondary to metal. That's quite a rare opportunity. With common ground there is an actual chance of changing someone's mind or growing as a person by exposure to outside ideas.

Even Dead and GG can agree Ride the Lightning is ace. 

I don't doubt this is what happened. So it's a shame. 

I must have missed the more outrageous recent posts. However, I always felt that these racially charged comments (that he should have kept to himself) were against a background of also loathing his own culture. This is why I never got offended by anything he said because generally he wasn't trying to say his kind was superior. 

Chinese, Indian, Russian - all are shit cultures. And white/western culture is the most shittest of all.  He understood that, but admittedly the expression of that core concept could get lost in other ludicrous statements.

I think @MacabreEternal and @markm somehow suggested Dead is or was some right wing nut. A lot of the time he was practically communist. He was not someone you could put in one box which is why I found it all so fascinating, despite the ludicrous statements.

 

This. He could deal it out, but take it too. 

I realise none of this is going anywhere now. But you see, it's these kinds of debates about non-metal topics and the exchange of ideas that keeps me engaged. I can't come here just to agree with JamesT that KK still rocks all the time.

I accept that in this case Dead made his bed and now has to slumber deadly in it. I just wish I had a chance to say goodbye so he knew that some random person on the internet had his day brightened a few times by the banter. I wish him all the best. If it were possible to pass on a message and supply my email address just to say that I'd be grateful.

Adios smashed crab. 

Good observations all the way around. He was an absolute cunt to Carolos (from Meatl-Fi) who was an obvious liberal and wore his heart on his sleeve. The aggo he attacked Carlos with was absurd. He got pretty nasty with me at times and then would calm down and try to make nice. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some bipolar or other mental health issues at play. Clearly, if he's to be believed he was quite scarred by his childhood war-torn background. 

That's why I always thought he was a hard righty. Jon is right in that he seemed to morph from right wing white supremacist kind of guy to far left socialist, but then again the far right and far left seem to have a meeting point....just look at the good ole Maga U.S. crowd embracement of authoritarianism.  

I keep randomly adding 2023 albums to my Bandcamp playlist knocking them out listening one by one from clickbait EOY lists and blogs as well as recos from you freaks....

Howling Giant/Glass Future-I'm real picky when it comes to prog. Either it clicks or I hit the eject button. I sat through this entire album which I've seen on a bunch of EOY lists. It's prog for sure, but ain't half bad per my listening today. Really, quite well constructed and held my attention with a bunch of influences. I like the Floydian touch on the last track. 

[JonoBlade]

13 minutes ago, markm said:

Good observations all the way around. He was an absolute cunt to Carolos (from Meatl-Fi) who was an obvious liberal and wore his heart on his sleeve. The aggo he attacked Carlos with was absurd. He got pretty nasty with me at times and then would calm down and try to make nice. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some bipolar or other mental health issues at play. Clearly, if he's to be believed he was quite scarred by his childhood war-torn background. 

That's why I always thought he was a hard righty. Jon is right in that he seemed to morph from right wing white supremacist kind of guy to far left socialist, but then again the far right and far left seem to have a meeting point....just look at the good ole Maga U.S. crowd embracement of authoritarianism.  

Oh no he di'nt. Teacher, Mark's talking about politics again. Ban him!

As for Carlos, I reckon they were both as bad as each other. 

[GoatmasterGeneral]

Supersuckers - Motherfuckers Be Trippin' 2003

 

Supersuckers - Must've Been High, 1997