any band recommendations that just feel great?

[Ozzy__]

I know what I mean by this, nobody else will, but like, vibes that mutter gives. I'm just gonna pray someone gets me on this 💀

[Thatguy]

Not me.

Crack on though.

[GoatmasterGeneral]

"vibes that mutter gives"

I am not knowing what this is supposed to mean. Is that by chance a typo? If so, why don't you fix it?

But is "feeling great" the goal?

Judging by that one band you said you liked, I don't think I have anything that's gonna make you feel great. 

[RelentlessOblivion]

Feel good metal huh? Something tells me Worship’s Last Tape Before Doomsday fails the vibe check?

[Ozzy__]

3 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

"vibes that mutter gives"

I am not knowing what this is supposed to mean. Is that by chance a typo? If so, why don't you fix it?

But is "feeling great" the goal?

Judging by that one band you said you liked, I don't think I have anything that's gonna make you feel great. 

no I mean like, Mutter by Rammstein just gives an oob experience you know?

9 minutes ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

Feel good metal huh? Something tells me Worship’s Last Tape Before Doomsday fails the vibe check?

I've never heard that actually

[GoatmasterGeneral]

35 minutes ago, Ozzy__ said:

no I mean like, Mutter by Rammstein just gives an oob experience you know?

No, I've never listened to Rammstein, didn't know that was the name of a song. Capitalizing it might have given me a clue. But at least your post makes sense to me now. I'm sensing we're not gonna be on the same musical wavelength you and I. What's "oob" mean, out on bail?

[JonoBlade]

5 hours ago, Ozzy__ said:

no I mean like, Mutter by Rammstein just gives an oob experience you know?

I've never heard that actually

I had a post worked out which poked fun at "oob" music, until I realised it most likely stands for out-of-body experience. Tip: using capitals for an acronym is a really useful way of avoiding confusion.

So, it's unlikely that @RelentlessOblivion's interpretation of OOBE music as merely feel good metal is accurate as such. Although feel-good metal can also be surprisingly hard to come by.

I think King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard might qualify as feel good metal.

PetroDragonic Apocalypse; or, Dawn of Eternal Night: An Annihilation of Planet Earth and the Beginning of Merciless Damnation | King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard (bandcamp.com) 

I checked out Karybdis which was mentioned in your intro. It's not too bad, although I wouldn't describe them as an out of body experience (or "feel good" for that matter), since they sound pretty similar to a lot of shouty death/metalcore type bands. Reminds me of Sylosis maybe. However, they're good enough that I'd consider going to see them live, since it turns out they're playing about 40 minutes drive from me in a few weeks.

I haven't bought a Rammstein album since the mid 90s but I have heard a few tracks since then. I watched the Deutschland video over and over a few years ago as it was a fantastic marriage of sound and visuals. I suppose it was a bit transcendent/OOB.

Actual OOBE/transcendent metal is, I guess, the holy grail. Some people would rate Tool that way. I'd say Type O Negative for me. Devin Townsend is going for the transcendent vibe. He doesn't often nail it but some people love him for trying. Biomech/Ocean Machine (reissued as Devin solo album). That shizz is transcendent. Ocean Machine | Devin Townsend | InsideOut Music (bandcamp.com)

There is a scientific correlation between the application of absurd amounts of stereo delay and transcendence according to the Devin Townsend playbook.

There was a somewhat related thread which might have what you're looking for

 

 

 

 

[GoatmasterGeneral]

4 hours ago, JonoBlade said:

I had a post worked out which poked fun at "oob" music, until I realised it most likely stands for out-of-body experience. Tip: using capitals for an acronym is a really useful way of avoiding confusion.

So, it's unlikely that @RelentlessOblivion's interpretation of OOBE music as merely feel good metal is accurate as such. Although feel-good metal can also be surprisingly hard to come by.

I think King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard might qualify as feel good metal.

PetroDragonic Apocalypse; or, Dawn of Eternal Night: An Annihilation of Planet Earth and the Beginning of Merciless Damnation | King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard (bandcamp.com) 

I checked out Karybdis which was mentioned in your intro. It's not too bad, although I wouldn't describe them as an out of body experience (or "feel good" for that matter), since they sound pretty similar to a lot of shouty death/metalcore type bands. Reminds me of Sylosis maybe. However, they're good enough that I'd consider going to see them live, since it turns out they're playing about 40 minutes drive from me in a few weeks.

I haven't bought a Rammstein album since the mid 90s but I have heard a few tracks since then. I watched the Deutschland video over and over a few years ago as it was a fantastic marriage of sound and visuals. I suppose it was a bit transcendent/OOB.

Actual OOBE/transcendent metal is, I guess, the holy grail. Some people would rate Tool that way. I'd say Type O Negative for me. Devin Townsend is going for the transcendent vibe. He doesn't often nail it but some people love him for trying. Biomech/Ocean Machine (reissued as Devin solo album). That shizz is transcendent. Ocean Machine | Devin Townsend | InsideOut Music (bandcamp.com)

There is a scientific correlation between the application of absurd amounts of stereo delay and transcendence according to the Devin Townsend playbook.

Obviously I'm well out of the loop on this whole matter of transcendent music as my tastes are just too far removed from what the rest of you normies like to listen to. You couldn't pay me enough to stand and watch either Karybdis or Rammstein, so I have no idea what type of feelings you guys might be getting from their music. Don't even get me started on Tool.

I can only hope for your sake Jon-O that you get hung up at the Crewe station and fortuitously miss the gig altogether. Except Crewe is not on the way to Wellingsborough is it, so let's say Northampton this time. Although I'll admit I'm keen to hear your report on the gig and the venue and see your pics 'n stuff, I always enjoy your reports from the road. (bit of pointless trivia, I see that gig falls on my son's 10th birthday) Did you ever tour at all with Monsterworks even locally, or was that essentially a studio only project?

I really don't see how any band's music could be expected to be one size fits all and to have the same effect on multiple different listeners, even among the non goats. Aren't we all searching for something a bit different from one another? Don't we all receive music differently, each and every one of us? One man's best band ever is another man's mainstream trash, and visa versa. I saw your boy DT live one time about 15 years ago (quite by accident, I didn't even know who they were at the time or that they were playing that night) and his music didn't transport me anywhere.

[FatherAlabaster]

22 minutes ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

I really don't see how any band's music could be expected to be one size fits all and to have the same effect on multiple different listeners, even among the non goats.

Yup, it's totally subjective.

I like Rammstein but I definitely don't get any kind of out-of-body transcendent vibes from them, it's just simple fun music.

[RelentlessOblivion]

5 hours ago, JonoBlade said:

I had a post worked out which poked fun at "oob" music, until I realised it most likely stands for out-of-body experience. Tip: using capitals for an acronym is a really useful way of avoiding confusion.

So, it's unlikely that @RelentlessOblivion's interpretation of OOBE music as merely feel good metal is accurate as such. Although feel-good metal can also be surprisingly hard to come by.

I think King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard might qualify as feel good metal.

PetroDragonic Apocalypse; or, Dawn of Eternal Night: An Annihilation of Planet Earth and the Beginning of Merciless Damnation | King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard (bandcamp.com) 

I checked out Karybdis which was mentioned in your intro. It's not too bad, although I wouldn't describe them as an out of body experience (or "feel good" for that matter), since they sound pretty similar to a lot of shouty death/metalcore type bands. Reminds me of Sylosis maybe. However, they're good enough that I'd consider going to see them live, since it turns out they're playing about 40 minutes drive from me in a few weeks.

I haven't bought a Rammstein album since the mid 90s but I have heard a few tracks since then. I watched the Deutschland video over and over a few years ago as it was a fantastic marriage of sound and visuals. I suppose it was a bit transcendent/OOB.

Actual OOBE/transcendent metal is, I guess, the holy grail. Some people would rate Tool that way. I'd say Type O Negative for me. Devin Townsend is going for the transcendent vibe. He doesn't often nail it but some people love him for trying. Biomech/Ocean Machine (reissued as Devin solo album). That shizz is transcendent. Ocean Machine | Devin Townsend | InsideOut Music (bandcamp.com)

There is a scientific correlation between the application of absurd amounts of stereo delay and transcendence according to the Devin Townsend playbook.

There was a somewhat related thread which might have what you're looking for

 

 

 

 

 

Alright i’m going to level with you here, I was kind of poking fun at the OP assuming They wanted catchy, feel good stuff, and recommending the most depressing album I could think of at the time instead. Now that I actually think about it though there is a lot of Funeral Doom which has a meditative quality to it.

[Ozzy__]

23 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

No, I've never listened to Rammstein, didn't know that was the name of a song. Capitalizing it might have given me a clue. But at least your post makes sense to me now. I'm sensing we're not gonna be on the same musical wavelength you and I. What's "oob" mean, out on bail?

sorry 😭 I don't have auto capitalise on, I meant out of body and I realised my cock up after I posted it

[GoatmasterGeneral]

I don't have auto capitalize on either Oz-man, but I do have a shift key. In fact I have two, one on each side, just in case I need to capitalize something on the fly. I know you're on your phone, but you have shift keys (looks like an up arrow) conveniently located there too so you can capitalize stuff when the need arises.

[Nasty_Cabbage]

Well the obvious choice would probably be to look at some other bands in the same vein/genre. Rammstein is pretty much industrial in my mind so of course you've probably heard Ministry and a few of their more radio friendly peers like Faith No More or Nine Inch Nails. That side of the musical world has never really interested me though. It actually probably hindered me from delving deeper into the bottomless abyss of metal. In truth, I can't really hold much of a grudge against Rammstein since there have been and are much worse plagues afflicting the radio at any given moment.

I would say stay away from bands like Fear Factory and Machine Head who were both the waste byproduct of metal post-Ministry, and I'm sure there are people who would award things like Skinny Puppy or even Bauhaus or Type O Negative the 'metal' tag. That type of stuff was all over the place in the late nineties and early aughts. If you want to go a little more obscure you could always go with Coil, but travelling that path is going to lead you to some weird places of questionable value. If you want something more modern with some honest real metal in it that's not used just as window dressing for pop-industrial you could try a number of black metal influenced bands kicking around. My personal pick of that litter would be Progenie Terrestre Pura.

Outside of the genre though the question almost becomes too broad. There's upbeat versions of just about anything on the market. As a general rule though it's all about your preference as to how overtly 'happy' you want something to sound. Then the out of body thing suggests weirdness to me so perhaps Voivod if you want to keep the metal and the weirdness, but lose the radio friendly sensibilities.

[FatherAlabaster]

If you are looking for Rammstein-alikes, the style you're looking for is called Neue Deutsche Härte. You might enjoy Megaherz:

 

Oomph:

 

Eisbrecher:

 

I never got too into these or other NDH bands because they all sound too close to Rammstein to be anything other than ripoffs. But the style is poppy and formulaic no matter what, and I guess being ripoffs doesn't stop them from still writing good songs if this is the kind of thing you're looking for. I could imagine myself having a playlist of this kind of stuff in the background if I'm, I dunno, cleaning out the basement or something.

[GoatmasterGeneral]

If you really want to feel good and leave your body behind I'd say go with Doc's faves....

 

[FatherAlabaster]

6 minutes ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

If you really want to feel good and leave your body behind I'd say go with Doc's faves....

 

Fucks sake man, have some decorum.

[AlSymerz]

I'm starting to think Doc isn't the only fan of EC around here.

[GoatmasterGeneral]

They're better than Rammstein. But then who isn't?

But if it makes you feel any better Vic, I got myself good this time. Ever since I posted that stupid video I've been humming that falsetto vocal line from the chorus over and over again while cooking dinner and doing dishes. You know what they say, play with fire and you might get burned.

I do have my death metal list to work on though, so hopefully some gnarly cavernous death metal will help push the Callboy earworm out of my head.

[AlSymerz]

I've never been silly enough to click on the video so I wont be humming anything.

 

[JonoBlade]

On 1/15/2024 at 7:56 PM, GoatmasterGeneral said:

 Did you ever tour at all with Monsterworks even locally, or was that essentially a studio only project?

Alas, not really. In the last decade I've only done studio projects. Before that MW did play live, but pretty rarely. I always found organising gigs in London to be a massive ball ache compared to the old days in Wellington when it was much easier.

I'd get back into playing live in a heartbeat if I had guys close enough to jam with regularly. The guys in my bands are spread over a hundred mile radius (or intercontinental) which is just enough to make it a hassle.

Bring on zero latency internet jamming!

Perhaps the one shining regret I have in life is not playing live enough. It makes one a wayyy better player/vocalist.

[Sardonicist]

3 hours ago, JonoBlade said:

Alas, not really. In the last decade I've only done studio projects. Before that MW did play live, but pretty rarely. I always found organising gigs in London to be a massive ball ache compared the old days in Wellington when it was much easier.

I'd get back into playing live in a heartbeat if I had guys close enough to jam with regularly. The guys in my bands are spread over a hundred mile radius (or intercontinental) which is just enough to make it a hassle.

Bring on zero latency internet jamming!

Perhaps the one shining regret I have in life is not playing live enough. It makes one a wayyy better player/vocalist.

Monsterworks performed more than once at The Stomach in Palmerston North right? I was there. 

[JonoBlade]

22 hours ago, Sardonicist said:

Monsterworks performed more than once at The Stomach in Palmerston North right? I was there. 

Crazy.

Yes. First album was recorded there too.

I don't remember how many times we played at the Stomach. It could have been a few times. I only remember the first gig ever with no bass player.

5 bands for 5 bucks.

 

[JonoBlade]

On 1/16/2024 at 8:27 PM, FatherAlabaster said:

If you are looking for Rammstein-alikes, the style you're looking for is called Neue Deutsche Härte. You might enjoy Megaherz:

Despite liking Rammstein in small doses, I never knew nor wanted to know there was a universe of Ramm-alikes out there.

[Ozzy__]

On 1/15/2024 at 3:52 PM, JonoBlade said:

I had a post worked out which poked fun at "oob" music, until I realised it most likely stands for out-of-body experience. Tip: using capitals for an acronym is a really useful way of avoiding confusion.

So, it's unlikely that @RelentlessOblivion's interpretation of OOBE music as merely feel good metal is accurate as such. Although feel-good metal can also be surprisingly hard to come by.

I think King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard might qualify as feel good metal.

PetroDragonic Apocalypse; or, Dawn of Eternal Night: An Annihilation of Planet Earth and the Beginning of Merciless Damnation | King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard (bandcamp.com) 

I checked out Karybdis which was mentioned in your intro. It's not too bad, although I wouldn't describe them as an out of body experience (or "feel good" for that matter), since they sound pretty similar to a lot of shouty death/metalcore type bands. Reminds me of Sylosis maybe. However, they're good enough that I'd consider going to see them live, since it turns out they're playing about 40 minutes drive from me in a few weeks.

I haven't bought a Rammstein album since the mid 90s but I have heard a few tracks since then. I watched the Deutschland video over and over a few years ago as it was a fantastic marriage of sound and visuals. I suppose it was a bit transcendent/OOB.

Actual OOBE/transcendent metal is, I guess, the holy grail. Some people would rate Tool that way. I'd say Type O Negative for me. Devin Townsend is going for the transcendent vibe. He doesn't often nail it but some people love him for trying. Biomech/Ocean Machine (reissued as Devin solo album). That shizz is transcendent. Ocean Machine | Devin Townsend | InsideOut Music (bandcamp.com)

There is a scientific correlation between the application of absurd amounts of stereo delay and transcendence according to the Devin Townsend playbook.

There was a somewhat related thread which might have what you're looking for

 

 

 

 

omg you checked out karybdis you're my new favourite person 

[GoatmasterGeneral]

54 minutes ago, Ozzy__ said:

OMG you checked out Karybdis, you're my new favourite person.

Yeah I did, but I thought they were fucking horrible. But you have to understand I'm an old man. Your dad would probably think I'm an old man. These modern sounding bands with their modern sounding production and their djenty 9 string guitars fuck me off to no end. It's nothing personal Ozzroy.