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I don't think theres anything wrong with subgenres like the main ones (death, black, thrash, doom, etc.) because the sounds are so different. its when people start with the microgenres within each that it can get a little much. And while Im not sure if I would deem it totally necessary, I do find myself benefitting from it. To me, when checking out new bands, it'll sort of serve as an ingredient listing. The same way I'll order an unfamiliar sushi roll "Fuck, I like eel, I like avocado, and I don't mind tobiko, I wonder what that's all like with kobacha?" is the same way I deduce whether I give a band an honest listen

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I used to be annoyed by the amount of subgenres. Mostly because Ive meet too many elitists discussing em like some sort of science, And then looking down on those who doesn't understand the difference. Today on the other hand, I use em as guidelines. Without borders.
That is actually a reason why I am not super interested in the technicalities of subgenres, some of the snobbiest people into metal I swear to it. heh
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i don't think the lyrical theme has enough significance to make a subgenre half of the grindcore bands i have in my playlist don't even use lyrics
They don't, but the difference between grindcore and goregrind is mostly in lyrical themes. Musically, goregrind is still grindcore, but is more death metal influenced.
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Metal wouldn't be metal without endless debates about subgenres. I think it is good to have though. I'm into a lot of doom metal for example, but death/doom is very different from stoner doom or traditional doom. Yes there's similarities, as there should be since it's all doom. But the differences are big enough to warrant different classifications. If you think metal has too many subgenres you should look at electronic music....

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Metal wouldn't be metal without endless debates about subgenres. I think it is good to have though. I'm into a lot of doom metal for example, but death/doom is very different from stoner doom or traditional doom. Yes there's similarities, as there should be since it's all doom. But the differences are big enough to warrant different classifications. If you think metal has too many subgenres you should look at electronic music....
The problem with endless debating, aside with my people's issues about nitpicking, are that these debates are often for the purpose of excluding something and writing it off. As you stated, genre groupings do exist for a reason, but it should be to help you explore, not to close yourself off to sounds that are outside of a couple of genres. I did this for some time, and didn't care to explore anything that wasn't metal, and it was a huge mistake. When I check something out, I like to find out the genre so that I can explore it further if I like the sound, or if I don't like it, try to find something else within that genre that I can enjoy. Most genres of music have something to offer, but when one of the central unifying traits of any genre is what turns me off to it, I find it extremely difficult to venture in too far. It's still worth a try though, if you had asked me 5 years ago if I would like anything outside of metals boundaries, I probably would have told you to fuck off. That's still most of my interest lies, but exploring music further has been very rewarding for me.
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I wasn't sure exactly where to put this post, but I didn't feel like starting a thread. Anyways... I was revisiting one of my favorite all time albums tonight, Vehemence's God Was Created, and I realized something that I guess I've always noticed but not quite realized what it was, or at least what I perceived it as tonight. Many MANY of the riffs and melodies on this album are VERY close to those found in a lot of emo/emocore/whatever the fuck you wanna call that shit. Not a bad thing at all at least on this album because the emotionality of them is what makes the album special, but it's not really a far cry considering the guitarist later went on to be Johnny Cursed, and formed another cunty whiney fuckmecutmecrycrycry emo band years after. Even that aside, isolated riffs sound like they could easily fit into even respectable bands of the genre. I was just taken aback at the realization because I've loved this album since high school and never quite realized how closely related the music seems to be to a musical style so polarizing. Which reminds me of why I love metal so much, how it's not just one black or white entity, its a fucking monster composed of necrotic slabs of flesh ripped from literally EVERYTHING around it, like a beast in a human suit. just caught me a little off guard I guess

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