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[BlutAusNerd]

I spent all yesterday listening to Burzum, Darkthrone, and Mayhem, trying to find something that I may have missed when I listened to the material in the past, and still couldn't find anything. The monotonous tone, lack of musicianship, and overall aesthetic bores me. The first wave didn't because mostly those were thrash and power metal bands that had black overtones, and they cared about actually putting out really good material, and not being married to a silly and frankly unsavory aesthetic like what came out of Norway. You never see Death Metal bands taking themselves that seriously.

Plenty of black metal bands are equipped with capable and even very talented musicians, but the aesthetic that many go for is driven more by feeling than technicality. The point is to capture the right mood more than play every note perfectly, so the takes that they are keeping when recording are judged based on different criteria when being included on their albums. There is also the issue of raw production, which can make it difficult to hear some of what's going on, but some close listening should easily reveal it to anyone who can correctly to music. Also, first wave black metal is not power or thrash metal with black metal overtones, it IS black metal. Some black metal has evolved to sound quite different from the originators, some has not. If the 2nd wave scene in Norway has put you off, you would do well to listen to more material before making a broad stroke judgment call like that. Feel free to peruse the black metal recommendations thread for plenty of evidence to the contrary of your myopic and uninformed assertion.

[GratuitousTK]

I love those Gothenberg metal bands, but the crap they spawned in the US in the 2000's is just a bunch sugary pop-metal. I go into a diabetic coma everytime I hear Rose of Sharyn from Killswitch.

[GratuitousTK]

I can't get into it. I'm a death metal fan so lets leave it at that. Second Wave Black was in my opinion not good and not redeemable in any way. If you can't find any thrash and power elements in First Wave you aren't listening. Bathory was a thrash band that liked to bring subjects like the occult and satan. Mercyful Fate was a power metal band that did the same. I can enjoy King Diamond wailing about Satan, I find Nocturno screeching about it and the monotone rhythm section and absence of any sort of lead work unpalatable.

[BlutAusNerd]

I can't get into it. I'm a death metal fan so lets leave it at that.

Most melodic death metal doesn't really count. Most of the bands that people name when discussing the formation of the genre dropped nearly all of the death metal in their sound pretty early on.

[GratuitousTK]

If it has a death metal rhythm section and vocal style, I usually call it Death Metal. I'm not a purist really.

[GratuitousTK]

Ok Burzum's filosofem has its moments.

[BlutAusNerd]

If it has a death metal rhythm section and vocal style, I usually call it Death Metal. I'm not a purist really.

Most of it doesn't though. Vocals mean nothing in the scope of things, and musically most melodeath after the mid-90's became more like power/gothic metal with derivative Iron Maiden.

[FatherAlabaster]

Ok Burzum's filosofem has its moments.

I liked the vocals on Aske, but Filosofem is the one that opened me up to more of his stuff. As BAN indicated, appreciating (some of) that stuff requires getting into the gestalt "feel" of it. I tend to agree with you, though, about first wave - I hear a ton of thrash in it, at least the albums I'm familiar with.

[GratuitousTK]

I do like a few American Black Metal bands like Agalloch. But thats just probably nationalistic chauvinism confusing quality detectors. Kidding of course.

[BlutAusNerd]

I do like a few American Black Metal bands like Agalloch. But thats just probably nationalistic chauvinism confusing quality detectors. Kidding of course.

Agalloch isn't black metal. They had a little in their sound early on, but they were always pretty different.

[GratuitousTK]

Yeah you could probably lump them in with Deafhaven and some of the other "post metal" bands. But they still make great heavy music to me.

[BlutAusNerd]

Yeah you could probably lump them in with Deafhaven and some of the other "post metal" bands. But they still make great heavy music to me.

I really enjoyed their first 3 albums, but yeah, not much black metal there. Can't say that I hear any Deafhaven similarities though, as I really don't like that band.

[Natassja]

Talking about Burzum, Key to the Gate is one of my favourite tracks, ever. I can't seem to enjoy his more recent stuff as much though. Doesn't feel the same to me.

[BlutAusNerd]

Talking about Burzum' date=' Key to the Gate is one of my favourite tracks, ever. I can't seem to enjoy his more recent stuff as much though. Doesn't feel the same to me.[/quote'] I love that dissonant opening riff, so fucking great.

[Natassja]

Yeh.....it's the build up around halfway that gets me everytime, the utter despair of it all! beautiful..

[RelentlessOblivion]

Burzum still do nothing for me. I try and I try and I try to get into them but it just isn't happening for me.

[projectfear22]

Quick reply, I just found this band https://youtu.be/T7Pu7NlDT9c And this damn whole album is so amazing o.o so unique sounding

[Scotia]

Scroll a bit if you want to get to the point, if not: here's some reading to make myself clearer. Let me walk you through it all: I heard some stuff by Metallica when I was eight. I immediately discarded it as I hated it. I went on to listen electronic music. My preference was dubstep. However, I have been through a rough time with my parents' divorce and my best friend's suicide. I felt my music just didn't speak to me anymore. I ventured into this more powerful and emotional genre. It's helped me through a lot of days. Back then my escape from reality was a Danish band by the name 'Mercenary'. I grew fond of them real quick and listened an album every day. I went on into Rammstein, Metallica and Nightwish. To me everything covered an aspect of what I was dealing with. Later, FFDP came into my life, followed shortly by Nirvana, Alter Bridge, SlipKnot, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Tremonti. I feel like there is a lot that I haven't heard and I would love to listen to more things. I'm currently stuck with these bands but I want to explore more. I like a lot so please, if you know a band that might be liked, share it with me immediately. (If you feel like it, give a short description, that way I know whether or not I'll like it) Thank you in advance!

[monkeydog]

Sounds like your still getting your feet wet. Based on what you like I'd suggest testament, lamb of god, chimaira,early mastodon, living sacrifice, maybe even tool or primus too

[jfk36]

Welcome to the forum, if your looking for new bands to listen to, you may want to have a look in the suggestion threads in the sub-genre forums, they can be very useful when you don't know what to listen to. The forum is very quiet at the moment and doesn't usually get that busy normally, but there is a small group of regulars who are usually very friendly and willing to help out a new guy.

[Scotia]

Thanks for the heads up! I will do that sometime soon. Problem is that I'm drowning in homework. So I won't be on too much.

[Sugar Pill]

If you like that grunge sound like Nirvana, listen to Alice in Chains, Mad season, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Mud Honey... All this bands are classics of grunge. You can also check out Mark Lanegan. His music is very melancholic.

Edited July 3, 2015 by Sugar Pill

[RelentlessOblivion]

Sorry to hear about your struggles Scotia. Like JFK I would encourage you to check out the recs threads stickied to the top of each genre subforum. For some general recs I'd say Deep Purple, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Saxon, Angel Witch, Helloween, Blind Guardian, Mercyful Fate, all melodic and easy to get into plus the first few bands I mentioned are pillars of the metal genre. Metallica are a thrash band so for something similar I'll second the Testament call, throw in Anthrax, Megadeth, Overkill, Artillery, Sodom, and early Death Angel.

 

For some more melancholic bands I'd say early Candlemass, Solitude Aeturnus, Pentagram, Trouble, and My Dying Bride (early stuff if you can dig the harsher vocals, more recent if not).

[Midi]

Welcome to the forum!

I'm not very familiar with most of the bands mentioned, but perhaps it would be useful to have a more extensive list of bands you're into at the moment to get a better view of which bands you might or might not like.

[RelentlessOblivion]

I think we can safely rule out all extreme metal bands at this stage. I went for the easier listening bands with strong melodic sensibilities for the most part.