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I was so disappointed when Empire (album) came out. The title song was pre-released and was massive but the album for me was so shitty & radio friendly coming on top of all their previous work. Nowadays I like maybe 4 songs from it and skip the rest.

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I was so disappointed when Empire (album) came out. The title song was pre-released and was massive but the album for me was so shitty & radio friendly coming on top of all their previous work. Nowadays I like maybe 4 songs from it and skip the rest.

That's basically what I do too, there's so much bubblegum there that even nostalgia doesn't quite get me through it. Very similar to my feeling about the black album. Title track and "Anybody Listening" are the two songs I really love, the rest of it takes a specific mood, and I always skip "Silent Lucidity".

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I was so disappointed when Empire (album) came out. The title song was pre-released and was massive but the album for me was so shitty & radio friendly coming on top of all their previous work. Nowadays I like maybe 4 songs from it and skip the rest.

That's basically what I do too, there's so much bubblegum there that even nostalgia doesn't quite get me through it. Very similar to my feeling about the black album. Title track and "Anybody Listening" are the two songs I really love, the rest of it takes a specific mood, and I always skip "Silent Lucidity".

Yep, The Thin Line & Jet City Woman are the others I can stomach. Anybody Listening is a standout.

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Principle Of Evil has a bunch of great parts, always enjoyed it, but Dusk... is where they hit their stride IMO. I'd be interested to hear the other recording, don't even think I heard about that. I'm happy I found my old CDs. It's been a pleasure to get back into Cradle after about a decade and a half.

Do you get into Akercocke? Goat Of Mendes reminds me of Principle Of Evil in bits, though they obviously went in a different direction after that.

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Yep, The Thin Line & Jet City Woman are the others I can stomach. Anybody Listening is a standout.

There's so much win on "Empire" it is unreal.  I actually prefer it to "..Mindcrime" (and I like that too).  I came to it before "..Mindcrime" though which has probably helped it, the only track I skip is "Della Brown" otherwise I sing along like a 13 year old at a Beiber concert to every track on there!

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9 hours ago, True Belief said: Yep, The Thin Line & Jet City Woman are the others I can stomach. Anybody Listening is a standout.

There's so much win on "Empire" it is unreal.  I actually prefer it to "..Mindcrime" (and I like that too).  I came to it before "..Mindcrime" though which has probably helped it, the only track I skip is "Della Brown" otherwise I sing along like a 13 year old at a Beiber concert to every track on there!

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Yeah I see where your coming from but gee wiz it's so slick and radio friendly ya know?

Not many realise that the band split after the Empire tour. I read an interview where Tate admitted that at the time Queensryche had got to the point where there was nowhere else to go.

If I recall they'd already cobbled together Promised Land while touring Empire but were effectively 'done'.

In hindsight they should have pulled the plug but you can't blame them for hanging round as the coin finally came rolling in....

Can't recall the exact events but something changed and they begged DeGarmo to come back and he wrote 90% of Hear in the Now Frontier and when that album tanked they and the label effectively blamed him and he fucked off for good.

The new stuffs ok but it's not got that magic that Tate & De Garmo bought in their prime.

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Yeah I see where your coming from but gee wiz it's so slick and radio friendly ya know?

Not many realise that the band split after the Empire tour. I read an interview where Tate admitted that at the time Queensryche had got to the point where there was nowhere else to go.

If I recall they'd already cobbled together Promised Land while touring Empire but were effectively 'done'.

In hindsight they should have pulled the plug but you can't blame them for hanging round as the coin finally came rolling in....

Can't recall the exact events but something changed and they begged DeGarmo to come back and he wrote 90% of Hear in the Now Frontier and when that album tanked they and the label effectively blamed him and he fucked off for good.

The new stuffs ok but it's not got that magic that Tate & De Garmo bought in their prime.

The first with La Torre had promise but the production killed it, haven't heard their last in full but the track I did hear wasn't good.  Wasn't there some issue with the band wanting to sack Tate's wife who was managing the band (or some aspect of their operation) and that caused the initial rift?

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There's so much win on "Empire" it is unreal.  I actually prefer it to "..Mindcrime" (and I like that too).  I came to it before "..Mindcrime" though which has probably helped it, the only track I skip is "Della Brown" otherwise I sing along like a 13 year old at a Beiber concert to every track on there!

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I got into them through Empire as well, and sang along like a fourteen year old at a Queensryche concert, which in fact I was at one point. It's just so saccharine, I can't listen to most of the songs without cringing anymore. I kind of cringe even at the ones I like - take "Empire", it's like Tate got his information about the mean streets from "West Side Story". Despite its having a similar laughability factor, Mindcrime will always be their peak for me.

As far as their breakup goes, I think Nigel could have been a bigger man about it, but David also shouldn't have been so weak when it came to Jeanine. This raw footage from an early tour will make it clear that the problems were already there, long before they boiled over:

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