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I am talking about morons who slag bands off and are very vocal about it, at gigs.. whatever. Not about deciding something isn't right for you and not bothering with it.  To be honest I was recalling

I completely agree.  One must have an understanding of something before they can fairly criticize it.

One of the worst is Velvet Cacoon. 

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You'd have to be pretty wacky to think that Deathcult on down to their newest piece of shit is black metal. More like symphonic nu-metal or deathcore with robot vocals. They haven't been a black metal band since Stormblast.
LOL. I'd forgotten about the robotic vocals. I've never heard their first two albums. I got into them on Puritanical (admittedly a pretty bad album) and went backwards. I was bored with them by the time I got to their third album. I still listen to it from time to time but I gave up on them after Death Kult. I was given a copy of the album by a now deceased friend for my 21st B-day or else I'd never have owned it (I'm thinking it's time to get rid of it). I then got the special edition of In Sorte Diaboli because the first song is really good. I should've known better.
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5 minutes ago, BlutAusNerd said: No love for Archgoat, huh? They're not for everyone is suppose.

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It may be ignorant of me to say that about the band, it's just that I've only heard that album by them.

They've never really changed, but bestial black metal is a pretty niche sound, most people can't get into it.

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On 26/06/2011 at 8:35 PM, Caedere said:

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Cradle of Filth.. just.. No.

Firstly, this song is amazing gothic metal. It’s catchy, has great lyrics and it’s about Lord Byron. I dig it.

Secondly, it’s got nothing to do with black metal, and using this as an example of black metal that sucks would be like eating a cheeseburger and saying it’s the worst steak you’ve had. Sure, mostly I’d prefer steak but occasionally a cheeseburger hits the spot. I wouldn’t confuse the two though.

Speaking of Dummy Burgers, people lamenting Dimmu Borgir are similarly missing the point, but not to the same extent. Even 1997’s ‘Enthrone Darkness Triumphant’ is clearly moving into a more melodic metal zone with some black metal structures. That album, along with ‘Spiritual Black Dimensions’ and my personal favourite ‘Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia’, are in my opinion fantastic atmospheric metal releases with elements of a modern black metal aesthetic. But they are clearly heading down a different path to the old black metal template. 

The worst black metal bands are by far those who jumped on board the bandwagon and, while trying their hardest, failed dismally. 

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Firstly, this song is amazing gothic metal. It’s catchy, has great lyrics and it’s about Lord Byron. I dig it.
Secondly, it’s got nothing to do with black metal, and using this as an example of black metal that sucks would be like eating a cheeseburger and saying it’s the worst steak you’ve had. Sure, mostly I’d prefer steak but occasionally a cheeseburger hits the spot. I wouldn’t confuse the two though.
Speaking of Dummy Burgers, people lamenting Dimmu Borgir are similarly missing the point, but not to the same extent. Even 1997’s ‘Enthrone Darkness Triumphant’ is clearly moving into a more melodic metal zone with some black metal structures. That album, along with ‘Spiritual Black Dimensions’ and my personal favourite ‘Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia’, are in my opinion fantastic atmospheric metal releases with elements of a modern black metal aesthetic. But they are clearly heading down a different path to the old black metal template. 
The worst black metal bands are by far those who jumped on board the bandwagon and, while trying their hardest, failed dismally. 
While I don't agree with your assessment of Puritanical, the rest is true. The majority of bandwagon hoppers are those who dickride Transylvanian Hunger, and that shit gives black metal a much worse name than the much maligned (falsely, often time) melodic/symphonic stuff.

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1 minute ago, BlutAusNerd said:

While I don't agree with your assessment of Puritanical, the rest is true. The majority of bandwagon hoppers are those who dickride Transylvanian Hunger, and that shit gives black metal a much worse name than the much maligned (falsely, often time) melodic/symphonic stuff.

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I like Transylvanian Hunger but you are right man. 

1. There are much better albums by Darkthrone

2. I hate that it became a trend to like norwegian black metal

3. There are much better black metal bands out there than Darkthrone in my opinion

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I like Transylvanian Hunger but you are right man. 
1. There are much better albums by Darkthrone
2. I hate that it became a trend to like norwegian black metal
3. There are much better black metal bands out there than Darkthrone in my opinion
Fuck, all 3 of those points are true. Nice to see some common sense for once!

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7 hours ago, Spectre said:

I like Transylvanian Hunger but you are right man. 

1. There are much better albums by Darkthrone

2. I hate that it became a trend to like norwegian black metal

3. There are much better black metal bands out there than Darkthrone in my opinion

1. Would you care to list the Darkthrone albums that you feel are “much better” than ‘Transilvanian Hunger’? I would only hazard ‘Blaze’, ‘Funeral’ and ‘Panzerfaust’ as being just as good but probably not better, let alone “much better”. 

2. You have a point, but to be fair, liking Norwegian black metal is probably the easiest and most rewarding experience in metal. Look at the incredible albums that scene produced. If anything, I’m annoyed at the anti-Norwegian sentiment that seems to be trendy these days. You want a fast track to credibility these days just make a call like this one.

3. I agree with you here. 

4. It’s ‘Transilvanian’, not ‘Transylvanian’ in the Darkthrone title. Both you and @BlutAusNerd made the faux pas. One should never misspell or mispronounce something one is downplaying/criticising, (type-os aside).

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2 hours ago, Requiem said:

1. Would you care to list the Darkthrone albums that you feel are “much better” than ‘Transilvanian Hunger’? I would only hazard ‘Blaze’, ‘Funeral’ and ‘Panzerfaust’ as being just as good but probably not better, let alone “much better”. 

2. You have a point, but to be fair, liking Norwegian black metal is probably the easiest and most rewarding experience in metal. Look at the incredible albums that scene produced. If anything, I’m annoyed at the anti-Norwegian sentiment that seems to be trendy these days. You want a fast track to credibility these days just make a call like this one.

3. I agree with you here. 

4. It’s ‘Transilvanian’, not ‘Transylvanian’ in the Darkthrone title. Both you and @BlutAusNerd made the faux pas. One should never misspell or mispronounce something one is downplaying/criticising, (type-os aside).

You have a valid point here a lot of people try to build credibility by saying the trendy thing. Under a funeral moon is my personal favorite  darkthrone release and don’t get me wrong I love Norwegian black metal it’s what introduced me to the genre but people started wearing the shirts and claiming to like the bands to gain popularity. Sorry for the spelling errors previously 

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1. Would you care to list the Darkthrone albums that you feel are “much better” than ‘Transilvanian Hunger’? I would only hazard ‘Blaze’, ‘Funeral’ and ‘Panzerfaust’ as being just as good but probably not better, let alone “much better”. 
2. You have a point, but to be fair, liking Norwegian black metal is probably the easiest and most rewarding experience in metal. Look at the incredible albums that scene produced. If anything, I’m annoyed at the anti-Norwegian sentiment that seems to be trendy these days. You want a fast track to credibility these days just make a call like this one.
3. I agree with you here. 
4. It’s ‘Transilvanian’, not ‘Transylvanian’ in the Darkthrone title. Both you and [mention=5429]BlutAusNerd[/mention] made the faux pas. One should never misspell or mispronounce something one is downplaying/criticising, (type-os aside).


1. The rest of their early canon up through Panzerfaust knocks the shit out of the 3 chord jockeying on TH (IMO of course). I know they were going for something minimal, but it sounds pretty dull to go through a whole album with very little variance. People like that sound, and that's okay, but I prefer the spontaneous Darkthrone that lobbed riffs at you by the dozens and sounded legitimately dark.

2. The Norwegian scene was large and fertile, and was very trailblazing early on, but that gave way to a lot of mediocrity by the late 90's when everyone jumped on the bandwagon. I tend to oppose the almost universally high praise that is lumped on the scene not because it isn't worthy of it, but rather because doing so steals the spotlight from every other scene in the early 2nd wave that was also tearing it up with great bands.

3. Absolutely. Taake, Aeternus, Aura Noir, Enslaved, Hades, etc... could all use some more attention.

4. Considering how drunk I was when I wrote all of this last night, I'm surprised I didn't have more spelling errors.

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2 minutes ago, BlutAusNerd said:

1. The rest of their early canon up through Panzerfaust knocks the shit out of the 3 chord jockeying on TH (IMO of course). I know they were going for something minimal, but it sounds pretty dull to go through a whole album with very little variance. People like that sound, and that's okay, but I prefer the spontaneous Darkthrone that lobbed riffs at you by the dozens and sounded legitimately dark.

 

Honestly, I was surprised how simple the Darkthrone riffs were on TH when I first looked into them.  However, I came to appreciate them much more after learning to play some of them.

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Honestly, I was surprised how simple the Darkthrone riffs were on TH when I first looked into them.  However, I came to appreciate them much more after learning to play some of them.
I'm not saying that riffs need to be complicated, especially not in black metal, they just don't really go anywhere on TH. Sure, there's a pretty cool atmosphere, but the repetition makes my mind wander and wish that I was listening to something else.

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