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16 minutes ago, Ikard said:

Awesome, what bands/subgenres are you into?

I love most all of them, started with Dream Theater back in high school and got into Circus Maximus, Opeth, Porcupine Tree, Pagan's Mind and Symphony X from them. I was interested in the darker and heavier stuff so I started listening to Dimmu, Wintersun, Winds of Plague. I love power metal, folk metal too. Nightwish was such a great band back when Tarja and Anette were there, but in my opinion they've been going downhill since Dark Passion Play. I think that may have been Tuomas' "magnum opus" ;)

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5 hours ago, clockwise said:

I love most all of them, started with Dream Theater back in high school and got into Circus Maximus, Opeth, Porcupine Tree, Pagan's Mind and Symphony X from them. I was interested in the darker and heavier stuff so I started listening to Dimmu, Wintersun, Winds of Plague. I love power metal, folk metal too. Nightwish was such a great band back when Tarja and Anette were there, but in my opinion they've been going downhill since Dark Passion Play. I think that may have been Tuomas' "magnum opus" ;)

Right on man, welcome. 

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I love most all of them, started with Dream Theater back in high school and got into Circus Maximus, Opeth, Porcupine Tree, Pagan's Mind and Symphony X from them. I was interested in the darker and heavier stuff so I started listening to Dimmu, Wintersun, Winds of Plague. I love power metal, folk metal too. Nightwish was such a great band back when Tarja and Anette were there, but in my opinion they've been going downhill since Dark Passion Play. I think that may have been Tuomas' "magnum opus"
Can a fairycore band like Nightwish have a "magnum opus"?

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1 hour ago, BlutAusNerd said:

Can a fairycore band like Nightwish have a "magnum opus"?



Yeah, it's all he ever thinks about ;)

But really, early Nightwish is definitely metal! At that point they were still playing all the parts, afaik. :)

 

I can't figure out how to pull my words out of the quote box lol.

2 hours ago, Ikard said:

Right on man, welcome. 

Thx :) I am glad to see there is an active forum for metalheads. I use to post on forums all the time but it seems to be going out of style now. I really miss that community, and having avatars and signatures and all that jazz. 

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Thx I am glad to see there is an active forum for metalheads. I use to post on forums all the time but it seems to be going out of style now. I really miss that community, and having avatars and signatures and all that jazz. 
Some of Nightwish's material is metal-adjacent, but it's really more like pop music with metal influences rather than the other way around.

I agree about hating that the forum dynamic is going the way of the buffalo. I guess there are still a few of us that prefer it and keep the style alive, but the facebook format has definitely taken over.

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16 hours ago, BlutAusNerd said:

Some of Nightwish's material is metal-adjacent, but it's really more like pop music with metal influences rather than the other way around.
 

Oh my god, don't listen to this guy @clockwise

Your favourite bands are great, especially Dimmu, Wintersun and Nightwish. I agree with you on Nightwish, the albums from 'Century Child' to 'Dark Passion Play' are fantastic. I think 'Imagenaerum' is also really cool, but I didn't get excited by 'Endless Forms Most Beautiful'. I really like Floor as a singer, but the songs just aren't there. 

Enjoy the forum! 

 

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Oh my god, don't listen to this guy [mention=12455]clockwise[/mention]. 
Your favourite bands are great, especially Dimmu, Wintersun and Nightwish. I agree with you on Nightwish, the albums from 'Century Child' to 'Dark Passion Play' are fantastic. I think 'Imagenaerum' is also really cool, but I didn't get excited by 'Endless Forms Most Beautiful'. I really like Floor as a singer, but the songs just aren't there. 
Enjoy the forum! 
 
Whether they were his favorite metal band or mine, the fact would remain that Nightwish mostly writes pop songs with metal influences.

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Well I came here to discuss metal :). Century Child is definitely a metal album. Tuomas stated his main influence was Metallica, back then. Bunch of guys in black, with long hair, songs about the devil, distortion 16ths with driving rhythm.. seems pretty metal to me, but who know smaybe it is fairycore, that is a great neologism. 

11 hours ago, Requiem said:

Oh my god, don't listen to this guy @clockwise

Your favourite bands are great, especially Dimmu, Wintersun and Nightwish. I agree with you on Nightwish, the albums from 'Century Child' to 'Dark Passion Play' are fantastic. I think 'Imagenaerum' is also really cool, but I didn't get excited by 'Endless Forms Most Beautiful'. I really like Floor as a singer, but the songs just aren't there. 

Enjoy the forum! 

Yeah Imaginaraeum or however you spell it was alright, and Endless Forms Most Beautiful is much worse than anything they've made. It seems so uninspired. I'm going to a NW concert in April, maybe I'll bring a little note attached to a pebble, that says "The new album is shit and you know it!! Go back to Tarja writing using Floor vocals!! - Love clockwise", and clonk someone in the head with it.

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Well I came here to discuss metal :). Century Child is definitely a metal album. Tuomas stated his main influence was Metallica, back then. Bunch of guys in black, with long hair, songs about the devil, distortion 16ths with driving rhythm.. seems pretty metal to me, but who know smaybe it is fairycore, that is a great neologism. 
 
I haven't heard Century Child, just Angels Fall First, Wishmaster, and Once, and a couple of singles from Dark Passion Play when a couple of my friends were digging it. I used to work at a record store that sold a lot of their albums, and those were in the CD changer and came on during my shift more than enough. Image and subject matter are mostly inconsequential when it comes to the music, and are far from genre defining. Deriving influence from Metallica also doesn't mean a lot, having released what is probably the best selling pop/metal album ever (The Black Album), and influencing many inside and outside of the metal spectrum. I'm not arguing that it's not in there, but their song structures and writing are mostly within the pop/rock spectrum with crunchier guitars and classical influences. I get that people like them, and "fairycore" is certainly an unfairly derogatory term, I won't make an excuse for that. In any case, I'm not trying to shut down conversation with pejoratives, it's not as though we all have to agree on everything.

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I'd be willing to guess it's the singles from DPP that form your opinion. 
Once is the album I'm most familiar with of theirs, and the only one that sticks out in my mind when I try to recall their sound.

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14 hours ago, BlutAusNerd said:

Once is the album I'm most familiar with of theirs, and the only one that sticks out in my mind when I try to recall their sound.

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Well you're wrong but I wont hold

it against ya.

 

 

13 hours ago, deathstorm said:

Hey welcome to the forum 

Thank you, I love metal, for example bands like Nightwish

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2 hours ago, clockwise said:

Well you're wrong but I wont hold

it against ya.

 

 

Thank you, I love metal, for example bands like Nightwish

Night wish is coming out with greatest hits record called decades 

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