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Have you tried "the internet"? I know it's a mystical place that not everyone can access, but I've heard tale that if you can get to it, what you can find is limitless.

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Have you tried "the internet"? I know it's a mystical place that not everyone can access, but I've heard tale that if you can get to it, what you can find is limitless.

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Thanks for explaining, that's a lot less weird.

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Hopefully it's better than Jupiter.

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Scamazon is garbage. Their forum was the first metal forum I ever used, and it was great for a while. Then they took it upon themselves to ban a user whose language they deemed to be "foul", when he didn't say anything that you couldn't find in the description and reviews of any number of sex toys they sell on their site. We left and started our own forum, and I've tried to avoid them ever since.

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Holy Moses - Finished With the Dogs

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Tankard - Zombie Attack
Tankard - Chemical Invasion
Tankard - The Morning After

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I agree, 2 days of snow in a row! It will all be melted by the end of the week, but I needed it either way.

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Ritual Carnage - The Highest Law

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The new season of Twin Peaks is amazing, even more bizarre than the original. Lynch is a genius.

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Immortal - At the Heart of Winter

To celebrate the return of my lazy ass to the gym, as well as our first real snow storm this year. I have missed you, winter.

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Immortal - At the Heart of Winter

To celebrate the return of my lazy ass to the gym, as well as our first real snow storm this year. I have missed you, winter.

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Immortal - At the Heart of Winter

To celebrate the return of my lazy ass to the gym, as well as our first real snow storm this year. I have missed you, winter.

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Spoken like a true inebriate.

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I forgot about this, I'll need to do some research on my calendar.

Mayhem playing DMDS (3rd time seeing them)
Inquisition (2nd time seeing them)
Rotten Sound
Ringworm (2nd time seeing them)
Archgoat
Castle (2nd time seeing them)
Cryptopsy playing None So Vile
Xasthur (acoustic "country" set)
SubRosa (clean set)
Morbid Angel (2nd time seeing them)
Suffocation (2nd time seeing them)
Revocation (twice)
Jungle Rot (3rd time seeing them)
Overkill (3rd time seeing them)
Crowbar (3rd time seeing them)
Immolation (3rd time seeing them)
Blood Incantation
Uada
Antichrist


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Spoken like a true inebriate.

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Yes, you will. Enslaved is an easy one for me, I can always buy their new album with confidence, even if I haven't sampled it before making the purchase.

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Enslaved - E

...on repeat. Further down the rabbit hole they go. It's more progressive and weird than any of their other albums to date, and yet still characteristically Enslaved like always. In an ever-changing world, at least I can always count on the new Enslaved album to be awesome. There's even a cover of a techno song on here that's good, WTF?

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Type O Negative was Mike's (the other guitar player from Nevertanezra) favorite band, so I've had to answer this request before. He never went to many shows, he had a problem with going places, even to see any number of his favorite groups. I forget the name of the opener, it was some kind of shitty southern rock group (Brand New Sin maybe?), and it was at the Saltair venue, which is a fucking dive, so the show wasn't off to a great start. It's way out west on the shore of the Great Salt Lake, it's stinky, has no ventilation, and tends to get hot and humid in a hurry. I went to the show to see Celtic Frost, and I thought it was criminal that they were opening for Type O Negative. As one of the most influential metal bands of all time (no doubt influencing Type O by exploring gothic metal on Into the Pandemonium), I felt like they should have headlined, but that's neither here nor there. They had just gotten back together and had dropped the gothic/doom/black metal beast Monotheist, and they were fucking fantastic. The new songs were heavy as hell, and the old songs got a bit of a makeover to reflect their new sound, it was everything I hoped it would be and more from one of my favorite bands.

I was good after they finished, but it was a long drive back home, so I figured I would stay and see if Type O did anything for me live. They built the anticipation by being total assholes. They took forever to set up, and then would turn down the lights and get everyone cheering, only to turn the lights back up and play the chicken dance over the PA. Their sound check guy kept giving the audience shit and said "not funny" as his mic check phrase. After fucking around for a while, they came out swinging, and while I couldn't tell you which songs they played since I wasn't very familiar with the music at the time, it was sensational. They were heavy, but so personal, and I think having that personality come through live is what helped me to understand them. They also had light up panels on either side of the stage that said things like "applause", "boo", "Fuck you", etc... were constantly being lit up by their lighting guy, inviting heckles from the audience and outbursts from Peter. During the last song, he tried some rock star move and fell over onto his back, and after struggling to get up for a few moments, he just finished playing the song laying down. Celtic Frost was still the band of the night as far as I'm concerned, but Type O was massively entertaining in every sense of the word. That was on the Dead Again tour, and not long after that, Pete was dead. I didn't have the relationship with their music to be as crushed as some of my friends were, but I had hoped I would see them again. I guess it comes for us all at some point, but I'm grateful for the opportunity to have seen them.

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So you searched and didn't find what you were after, and now you gave up because you "know better"? Sounds like a cop out to me. As Will had mentioned, there are several orders of evolution filling the "gulf" between Judas Priest, Metallica, and Morbid Angel. While you're passing off gradual changes and tweaks as not being what pushed the genre forward, what is Kill 'em All besides a few gradual changes and tweaks beyond Accept and Raven? What is Morbid Angel but some gradual tweaks beyond Possessed and Death? Both bands took some influence from other sounds, like Metallica grabbing some hardcore punk aggression and Morbid Angel bringing in half of the seminal grindcore band Terrorizer to its rhythm section and their own take on Eddie Van Halen's soloing style, and that doesn't make them any less groundbreaking for not being all that far ahead of the pack. Metal wasn't created in a vacuum, it sprang up through the work of several bands and several influences, and those influences have all ran off into several different directions over the years, just not at the rapid pace that some people believe when working with an abridged history of the genre. Just as the gap between Artificial Brain and throwback death metal "ain't that big", neither was it when a million bands sprang up around death metal in the late 80's/early 90's, all playing slightly different varieties of basically the same thing. That didn't make it less innovative, it made it more personal, they did it their way and had their sound, even if they used the same death metal tool box to assemble that sound.
 
The point I made was to argue catchy vs. saccharine, not to equate the two with one another. My point is that a band like Running Wild can be catchy as shit, and never resort to the same kinds of melodies and hooks that a pop band would use. The false equivalency is assuming that you would need to resort to those kinds of pop music techniques to sound catchy. You can argue that mixing metal and saccharine pop works, and maintain that as your opinion, but I'm far from the only one who would disagree with that notion. They didn't mix anything, they appropriated one token element of metal and put it into J-pop. That doesn't make their music metal, it's just J-pop with guitars, nothing about the songwriting ever changed. Metal wasn't integrated, it's just a prop/gimmick used in in this case. Therefore, this isn't anything new for metal, nor is it anything new for pop, since pop/rock bands have been appropriating "metal" guitars since the 80's. Again, if you think that's all metal has had that's been different in the past 15 years, you really just haven't paid attention. But Aus Nord, Deathspell Omega, StarGazer, Vektor, Vhöl, Lantern, Wormed, Mitochondrion, Cultes Des Ghoules, Negative Plane, Ulcerate, Black Harvest, Satan's Host, Anhedonist, the list of bands in many genres just goes on and on of forward thinking and revolutionary acts from all over the metal spectrum over that timeframe. It's time to pull your head out of the sand dude. Nobody is telling you not to listen to Babymetal and Issues, but maybe do some research before making false assumptions about the creative process being dead in metal.
 
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Here's the thing though, the riffs and melodies from the guitar and/or vocal lines are the hooks. Metal had never, and will never, need the kinds of saccharine hooks that pop music uses. It's basically the antithesis of metal. Combining metal with pop music isn't innovative, it has only served to dumb down the genre for mass consumption from the many failed attempt and identities it has taken on. This is not to say that metal can't be catchy, but the chorus even from a mainstream classic metal song is still a long way from the ones used in bubblegum J-pop. If you think metal doesn't have any new ideas, you're simply not paying attention. Just as always, the retro and safe sounding bands get the press and the attention, you usually have to dig for something that's daring. Is it daring to mix metal with pop/punk or J-pop? Not really. It's just a way to try to marginalize and reduce metal to a kind of guitar distortion, which is the only way that people who don't want to think about the music they're hearing seem to he able to view it. This kind of synthesis brings it down to their level, but it benefits no one.

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So you searched and didn't find what you were after, and now you gave up because you "know better"? Sounds like a cop out to me. As Will had mentioned, there are several orders of evolution filling the "gulf" between Judas Priest, Metallica, and Morbid Angel. While you're passing off gradual changes and tweaks as not being what pushed the genre forward, what is Kill 'em All besides a few gradual changes and tweaks beyond Accept and Raven? What is Morbid Angel but some gradual tweaks beyond Possessed and Death? Both bands took some influence from other sounds, like Metallica grabbing some hardcore punk aggression and Morbid Angel bringing in half of the seminal grindcore band Terrorizer to its rhythm section and their own take on Eddie Van Halen's soloing style, and that doesn't make them any less groundbreaking for not being all that far ahead of the pack. Metal wasn't created in a vacuum, it sprang up through the work of several bands and several influences, and those influences have all ran off into several different directions over the years, just not at the rapid pace that some people believe when working with an abridged history of the genre. Just as the gap between Artificial Brain and throwback death metal "ain't that big", neither was it when a million bands sprang up around death metal in the late 80's/early 90's, all playing slightly different varieties of basically the same thing. That didn't make it less innovative, it made it more personal, they did it their way and had their sound, even if they used the same death metal tool box to assemble that sound.
 
The point I made was to argue catchy vs. saccharine, not to equate the two with one another. My point is that a band like Running Wild can be catchy as shit, and never resort to the same kinds of melodies and hooks that a pop band would use. The false equivalency is assuming that you would need to resort to those kinds of pop music techniques to sound catchy. You can argue that mixing metal and saccharine pop works, and maintain that as your opinion, but I'm far from the only one who would disagree with that notion. They didn't mix anything, they appropriated one token element of metal and put it into J-pop. That doesn't make their music metal, it's just J-pop with guitars, nothing about the songwriting ever changed. Metal wasn't integrated, it's just a prop/gimmick used in in this case. Therefore, this isn't anything new for metal, nor is it anything new for pop, since pop/rock bands have been appropriating "metal" guitars since the 80's. Again, if you think that's all metal has had that's been different in the past 15 years, you really just haven't paid attention. But Aus Nord, Deathspell Omega, StarGazer, Vektor, Vhöl, Lantern, Wormed, Mitochondrion, Cultes Des Ghoules, Negative Plane, Ulcerate, Black Harvest, Satan's Host, Anhedonist, the list of bands in many genres just goes on and on of forward thinking and revolutionary acts from all over the metal spectrum over that timeframe. It's time to pull your head out of the sand dude. Nobody is telling you not to listen to Babymetal and Issues, but maybe do some research before making false assumptions about the creative process being dead in metal.
 
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Here's the thing though, the riffs and melodies from the guitar and/or vocal lines are the hooks. Metal had never, and will never, need the kinds of saccharine hooks that pop music uses. It's basically the antithesis of metal. Combining metal with pop music isn't innovative, it has only served to dumb down the genre for mass consumption from the many failed attempt and identities it has taken on. This is not to say that metal can't be catchy, but the chorus even from a mainstream classic metal song is still a long way from the ones used in bubblegum J-pop. If you think metal doesn't have any new ideas, you're simply not paying attention. Just as always, the retro and safe sounding bands get the press and the attention, you usually have to dig for something that's daring. Is it daring to mix metal with pop/punk or J-pop? Not really. It's just a way to try to marginalize and reduce metal to a kind of guitar distortion, which is the only way that people who don't want to think about the music they're hearing seem to he able to view it. This kind of synthesis brings it down to their level, but it benefits no one.

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I don't remember much of it specifically, but I remember enjoying it when it came out.

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It doesn't matter how much you acquire, it only gets worse. It's an endless fucking black hole, and I willingly let it drag me into its vortex, for I am weak.

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