BlutAusNerd

Wow, way to dig up an old thread. No posts here for 3 years? Maybe we should add some more. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

Damn, that's pretty cool. I share your affinity for Blasphemer's contributions to the band, particularly on those two albums (I don't care as much for Wolf's Lair Abyss or Chimera), but De Mysteriis has long been my favorite black metal album, and it will likely remain so. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

Wow, I had no idea. To Mega Therion should be up next! Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

If I was a moderator that far back, NTNR's unabashed love for that piece of shit would have prompted the ban hammer. Still though, if his post means what I think it means, I'm shocked by this revelation. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

I'm not sure how often the label was slung around in the early 70's, but "heavy metal" is a term that goes back to the 60's. 1970 is probably the best point to look at for the year of its birth, but a lot of the progenitors died off in the early 70's. Priest came along aping up the Deep Purple template for heavy metal and adding a new dimension of class and technicality to heavy metal, whereas Motörhead pushed it into a more rough and dirty direction. They, like Priest, pre-dated the NWOBHM movement by a couple of years, as most bands were in the demo/first album recording phase by 1979, whereas Motörhead was dropping their 3rd (and 4th) albums. As the acronym stands for New Wave of British Heavy Metal, it seems that be indicative of just the new bands at the time. That said, Motörhead's influence can't be overstated. They approached heavy metal from a rock and roll angle and with a punkish attitude, so they were one of the few unifying bands that fans from all across the spectrum could agree on. I also have immense respect for their career, in that they never sold out or compromised to try to be anything other than what they were, and continued to release solid albums until their end. They're one of the legends, that's for sure. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

Have you not in the past? How did I not know this before and ban you ages ago? Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

Whatever you're looking for can be easily found here. It wouldn't be a bad idea to search eBay first if you don't mind a second hand copy, the advantages of which are that people tend to auction multiple items at once, and some of them when these collections go on sale tend to be out of print. If you're just looking for new stuff, themetaldetektor.com will show you just about every online distributor under the sun that has a copy. Some have better prices than others, but that may not be the only factor, as some have better selections than others as well if you're looking for more than one item. It takes some digging to figure out which ones you like best, but that's just like music, isn't it? Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

The aesthetic and tone that you're describing with Venom would be indicative of darker and/or more extreme metal of many varieties, but Venom were the first to explore the black metal path because of their sound. The reason for them making the song could have been talking about being heavy as iron, or that their brand of metal was more "black" and evil sounding as the lyrics to the song seem to indicate, but I think the crucial thing to remember is that the bands that followed them who called themselves "black metal" did so because they were willfully following in Venom's footsteps. That energy, speed, harsh vocal style, and the way they phrased their riffs and used a darker style of chord progressions is what sets it apart from heavy metal. Some might argue that the separation isn't far enough, but then have no problem with saying that Black Sabbath's debut is the first heavy metal album despite containing a large number of blues songs. It seems like the mentality is mostly fostered by the internet age who don't understand the evolution of the genre, and can't discern the connection between the Norwegian sound that came 10 years later and the progenitors of the style. Anyway, Venom is killer, at least on their first 3 albums. While I don't share your disdain for the rest of Maiden's 80's canon, I do prefer the Di'Anno albums. They were going for something different with Bruce, and they had to, his voice wouldn't have been a good fit for their raw early sound. It wasn't the most seamless transition, but I think they had it dialed in by Somewhere In Time and Seventh Son of a Seventh Son. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

I like tofu, so even though I wouldn't order it without meat at a restaurant, that sounds really good. I just got back from trying out a sushi place that had some pretty tasty looking Thai dishes on their menu, and since I likely won't be returning for their sushi, I'll have to try one of those if I ever end up there again. It was kind of a surreal dining experience because the restaurant was next door to Burt's Tiki Lounge, a shitty venue where I played many times and saw a great many shows within its dank walls that stank of piss. They closed it down a few years ago, and when I walked by on the way in and saw that the outside had been cleaned up, but there was no sign outside, I wondered what it was. When I got inside, I saw that they had blown out the wall between the two places and turned the old Burt's into their bar/lounge area. We ended up seated there, and although the interior was entirely revamped, they kept the layout exactly the same. It was weird being there and having so many memories flood back while I was eating, even though you would never know it was the same place at first glance because of the dramatic makeover. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

Like I said above, they're burned discs from NTNR (you probably remember him as NeverMike from Metal Valhalla). He endeavors to collect every little thing from PL, and even though these aren't official releases, they're pretty well recorded bootlegs. I don't usually keep burned copies of CDs because I want to get the real thing eventually, but since these are already bootlegs, why bother? I forgot that this particular bootleg had a couple of weird covers at the end to round it out. Paradise Lost playing Venom's In the Name of Satan sounds as strange as it looks typing it out, but their cover of Atomic Rooster's Death Walks Behind You was actually pretty cool. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

I have young kids, so I can understand the commute to and from work being the only time you have to truly focus on music. Sometimes I'll put on something at home, but the best listening comes from being on the road as well, since there are no distractions or conversations to maintain. As far as the selection goes, I quite like all of those albums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one from this group. Most people here listen to a pretty broad selection, encompassing more or less the entire metal spectrum, though our focus and habits vary from user to user. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

I've heard tracks from both, but never picked up their albums. I don't think I've seen either mentioned here frequently, so cheers for that. I remember liking Nekromantheon more than Audiopain, but will likely get around to revisiting them at some point. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

Paradise Lost - Live Enchantment (bootleg) The set list is similar to the other Draconian Times era bootleg I mentioned, but the mix is more balanced. The vocals seem to be the highlight here, as Nick sound great, while the guitars are slightly muted. Pretty good recording overall. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

Other than being drunk and getting tossed around during Obituary's set at MDF a few years ago, it's probably been about 10 years since I've moshed. I always felt like I was missing the show, and I'll headbang if I'm really getting into it, but otherwise I just prefer to take it all in and watch the performance. Since it's a classic/iconic album, and Blind Guardian has a pretty devoted following, the whole venue sang their asses off with Hansi during those huge choruses. I've never really felt the whole "metal unity/brotherhood" concept that many seem to espouse, but that feeling of everyone singing together was really cool. Their performance was on another level, absolutely stunning. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

Grom is my favorite from them, I think it would be right up your alley. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

I need to dust off that Reclusiam album, it's been a while since I've listened to it. Ryan does have a free download of it available on his website if you'd rather not stream it on YouTube. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

His vocals on the early stuff are more standard black metal rasps. His vocals on the newer albums are one of the things I like least about their black/death material, they've always sounded forced to me. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

I would say start with the formative bands to get a feel for the origins and work your way forward. Here is a list of albums to get you started: Thergothon - Stream From the Heavens Skepticism - Stormcrowfleet, Ethere, and Lead and Aether dISEMBOWELMENT - Transcendence Into the Peripheral (not truly funeral doom, but they were a massive influence upon the genre and some of their songs fit within that context) Esoteric - Epistemological Despondency Mournful Congregation - Tears From a Grieving Heart Ysigim - Whispers Worship - Last Tape Before Doomsday Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

They're pretty good, but I prefer their pure black metal early work. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

At this point, they were pretty standard power/speed metal, albeit a lot more epic and aggressive than most of their contemporaries. They added symphonic and progressive elements later, but this is the sound I prefer from them. Seeing this album played live start to finish was a highlight of my time listening to metal, they were flawless. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

To be honest, I'm not sure of its origin. I don't even have a real copy of it, mine is a burned disc that Mike (NTNR that used to frequent this place) made for me. He's a Paradise Lost nut, the kind that buys 3 copies of their albums to have all of the bonus tracks. Anyway, it's one full live set from a gig (in Stockholm, maybe?) from their Draconian Times tour, and another partial set from the same tour. It's pretty cool for me because the full set showcases the songs with a seriously boosted guitar tone, and sounds way heavier than the album versions of the songs. The vocals are buried in the mix, and Nick doesn't sound great from what you can hear, but it's worth it for that crunch. It's like the difference between Priest's studio albums and Unleashed in the East. The rest of the band is on fire, playing most of Draconian Times with Pity the Sadness, True Belief, and As I Die. It's a pretty cool bootleg if you can find it. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

Here's a sample from the album in question, which is probably my favorite Blind Guardian song from one of power metal's perfect albums. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

Paradise Lost - Dead Good (live bootleg) Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

Several people point to that album as their high water mark. It's a great one, but I feel like they peaked with their prior album, Imaginations From the Other Side. Don't skip that one or Somewhere Far Beyond. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

I'm not sure that it would be your flavor, but they were pretty cool. The closest comparison I could make would be to say it's kind of like Angelcorpse meets early very Impaled Nazarene and Beherit. EDIT: Then again, I do remember you spinning Abhorer, and Impiety isn't far off from their sound. That might have something to do with proximity, I can't imagine that Singapore has the world's biggest metal scene. Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk