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  1. Horns
    Tortuga gave a Damn to Balor in Slayer   
    I like that philosophy.  I nevertheless find it sad to see something that has been around for so long to come to an end.  However, that is probably just me becoming overly attached to things.
  2. Horns
    Tortuga given a Damn from H34VYM3T4LD4V3 in Ian 'Lemmy' Kilmister   
    Yeah, I miss him too :S We need more people like him in this world, not less...but I fear that there will never be anyone quite like Lemmy again.
  3. Horns
    Tortuga gave a Damn to FatherAlabaster in Anti Black Metal   
    Why anyone here would want this is beyond me.
  4. Horns
    Tortuga given a Damn from deathstorm in Happy New Year 2018   
    Happy New Year, people
  5. Horns
    Tortuga gave a Damn to ProfessorBoozenthrash in Anybody into comedy??   
    Lookup Sam Kinison and Rodney Dangerfield. And make sure you don't have any neighbors to wake up (or wear headphones... >:D)
     
     
  6. Horns
    Tortuga gave a Damn to Ghouly in Pre-Internet Metal Memories   
    I remember if you wanted a t-shirt, a flag, a band patch, any kind of decent merch,  you had to get one of those crappy little black and white paper catalogs and order via mail and hope your shit arrived within 2 months. 
  7. Horns
    Tortuga given a Damn from ChainsawAkimbo in What Are You Listening To?   
    Mercyful Fate - Melissa
  8. Horns
    Tortuga given a Damn from True Belief in What Are You Listening To?   
    Mercyful Fate - Melissa
  9. Horns
    Tortuga given a Damn from salmonellapancake in What Are You Listening To?   
    Mercyful Fate - Melissa
  10. Horns
    Tortuga given a Damn from Natassja in What Are You Listening To?   
    Mercyful Fate - Melissa
  11. Horns
    Tortuga gave a Damn to Natassja in The Movie Thread   
    I guess that is a reason, whole thing fuckin depressed me, like... Nah, man, I wouldn't see it again neither.
  12. Epic
    Tortuga gave a Damn to welkyn in What is Metal music?   
    I can give you a historical/ethnocultural description if you like, which at the very least accounts for significant trends that have arisen within metal over the past 50 years.

    Heavy Metal is old school "warrior culture" bubbling up from underneath a plastic system of control.  Long story short, the guys 'n gals that used to protect folk from thugs are no longer allowed to do so (by law), and those thugs - the meanest of them, at least - have ended up crawling their ways into positions of power (difficult not to see this nowadays with all the leaks and scandals showing what a bunch of predatory crooks our politicians are).  In the absence of normal release mechanisms, we channel natural violence into heavy culture (and heavy drinking/consumption...)
    The prevailing emphasis on altered states of consciousness (incl. drug consumption), the forms of ritual gathering (gigs, festivals and so on), the deification of cultural heroes, and even the tendency towards dark clothing, face paint, internal symbolism and shock/horror aspects are all traits of warrior cults.
    The "corpse paint" of Norwegian Black Metal is even directly related to the war paint worn by north Alpine tribes in the centuries surrounding the ascension of the Roman Emperors - Immortal referred to it as "war paint" earlier on before capitulating to popular sentiment more often than not.  But the tradition is based on the same idea - the point is to look like a corpse, like an undead warrior, risen from the grave to bring death to the enemy.  It's ancient psychological warfare.
    I shouldn't have to add that these ancient war cults would have involved predominantly young men, a brotherhood-based society, subversion of wider cultural norms, "heterodox" spiritualities and so on.  Literally, the heavy metal subculture is the old war cult reborn in the modern age.  We're not allowed to kill bad guys any more (most of them are government officials) so we keep ourselves going with culture and kinship.
    A lot of metalheads train with weapons or in hand-to-hand combat, a lot of them are interested in ancient culture, mythology, and fantasy, we've got a lot of wargamers and computer gamers who like medieval or Tolkienish settings and so on - to me, it's pretty clear that it's war cult.  And that it should produce this loud, brazen, anti-stupidity, ultimately very real music (that's what "heaviness" is - the degree to which music reflects reality), makes complete sense in that context.
    We have descriptions from Roman times of Germanic warriors yelling a barritus - that is, a deep guttural sound reflected off the back of shields to present a wall of heavy noise to the enemy.  That's fucking metal.
  13. Horns
    Tortuga given a Damn from Natassja in The Movie Thread   
    The parts where I had to shut my eyes was the maggot/beetles crawling around the sculls, when they shoot the jaguard, and when they rape that poor tribal woman.
    Apart from the sickening scenes, I have actually reflected a lot about that movie the last couple of days: I think that one of the reasons why it is so grim is that you are forced to consider who are the real primitives (primitives such as in bad primitives...remember the movie is from the early 1980's). Those white movie makers were just asking for trouble! But despite all the refelction...I am not going to see it again.
  14. Haha
    Tortuga gave a Damn to Requiem in New Purchases/Acquisitions   
    More Requiems than the last day of the Salzburg Mozart festival.
     
    More tags than a Bangladeshi t-shirt factory.
  15. Horns
    Tortuga given a Damn from Will in New Purchases/Acquisitions   
    I have never gotten...adds randomly Requiem...them live. But yeah...Requiem...The League seem like a great...Requiem...band.
    But hell yeah...Requiem...I would walk through knee deep snow for two eyes to see The League.
    Sorry for all this Requiem stuff...but some here apparently think that I should tagg/mention his name...Requiem.
    Now that sounds like a great idea Next purhace will be some Salem's Lott...intersting to see what I will make of those covers
  16. Horns
    Tortuga given a Damn from Requiem in New Purchases/Acquisitions   
    I have never gotten...adds randomly Requiem...them live. But yeah...Requiem...The League seem like a great...Requiem...band.
    But hell yeah...Requiem...I would walk through knee deep snow for two eyes to see The League.
    Sorry for all this Requiem stuff...but some here apparently think that I should tagg/mention his name...Requiem.
    Now that sounds like a great idea Next purhace will be some Salem's Lott...intersting to see what I will make of those covers
  17. Horns
    Tortuga gave a Damn to Will in New Purchases/Acquisitions   
    You forgot to tag @Requiem. He likes to be tagged in things...
  18. Epic
    Tortuga gave a Damn to Natassja in What is Metal music?   
    I don't need no vibrating fuckin sugar n salt to know the METAL is GOOD for me  
  19. Haha
    Tortuga given a Damn from FatherAlabaster in New Purchases/Acquisitions   
    Just some old shyte with Anti Nowhere League remastered and recorded in  CD format. CD box gone missing though...last seen in the rubbish bin
  20. Thanks
    Tortuga given a Damn from Will in What is Metal music?   
    The link gives a hint, but only a hint...it seems a bit too hippy smug for me mentioned it any further.
    But as for the sugar/salt test:
    Take one big loudspeaker, and stand it one one of it sides...sprinkle some table salt or sugar on the surface. Turn up the bass and see what happens...repeat with the treble. What you will see is sound/vibrations...and yes, all sound is vibrations...going visual!
  21. Horns
    Tortuga given a Damn from dilatedmind in What is Metal music?   
    Granted, I have never tried the salt/sugar vibration test on any of my loud speakers while listening to metal, but it would not suprise me one bit if it is...high vibrational. Allmost all types of metal energizes me, inspires me, sets of thoughts in my mind resulting in interesting projects and ideas. Low vibrations on the other hand leaves you mind dumbed in the best of cases...depressed or physicall ill in the worst. So high vibrations it is!
    And then there is the concept that metal is classical music gone electrical: I understand why people say that. I sense the same high vibrations in a lot of classical music, too. But now I am on the brink of getting all philosphical...over and out
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
  22. Horns
    Tortuga given a Damn from dilatedmind in Where did the "horns up" hand gesture come from?   
    Read it in some interview with Dio that it was Ronnie's Italian grandmother who first introduced him to the horned up sign: it is to put it pure and simple a ward against the devil. Which means that when ever you do the horned up sign against anyone you are claiming them to be evil and trying to protect yourself...makes you feel like a bit of a twat when especially using it against yourself, especially if you are pagan such as yours truly.
    But alas...things, terms, and imperetations change over time: once the word "kaelling" or "kaerring" in Scandinavien meant "little beloved woman" now it means...bitch! And once almost bared female breasts were socially acceptable, while a woman's ancles could make any man blush. So who knows, perhaps horns up has really changed from "uh, oh...I am scared. Jesus, please protect me" to "Hell yeah, rock n roll". As long as no one mentions NWO and Alex Jones, then all is well.
  23. Horns
    Tortuga gave a Damn to Requiem in What is the true definition of black metal?   
    Black metal is the snow-covered forest at sunset; the full moon glimpsed through jagged trees; the candle that flickers in ghost winds; the indelible emptiness of the lonely human soul that cries out to empty skies.
  24. Horns
    Tortuga gave a Damn to FatherAlabaster in Where did the "horns up" hand gesture come from?   
    Technically, since he was literally an elf, I think the answer is yes.
  25. Haha
    Tortuga gave a Damn to Requiem in The Internet is slowly killing Metal   
    Desperate times call for desperate measures! Even today when I was driving to work I was reading through a booklet (when safely stopped at a red light...) and thought of @Tortuga and the horror of it all. 
    This is hilarious, Vampy! 
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