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Like I've said before' date=' you're probably pushing too hard. Warm up with quiet growls, and try to focus on getting a good tone with your voice at conversation-level volume. More volume will come as you learn to relax. Also, it was counter-intuitive for me, but I got much better results by approaching my growl as if it was a lower version of my high scream, as opposed to coming up from the bottom with something really guttural. Imagine taking a high rasp and "tuning it down". Everyone's voice is different, but it might help... To be honest, I've almost never experienced pain in my throat while trying to vocalise in more harsh ways. I've had some throat-tickling feelings the first few days, but never felt it again, not even in the snarls for which I do use my throat. Experimenting will surely help; it seems I'm able to do deeper vocals more consistently with an inverse respiration, so I'll be exploring it further tomorrow.
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Why I love New York City, in a nutshell: some really talented college friends that I haven't seen in at least six years - and who hadn't seen each other in a while either - arrived at the park separately while I was out with my son, and we all coincidentally ran into one another and had an impromptu ten-year reunion on the sidewalk. They're all living relatively close by, and we've got plans to meet again soon. It's like that time I randomly sat across from someone on the subway, years after an argument that had ended our friendship, and became friends again after talking for ten minutes. Not saying it couldn't happen elsewhere, but in my experience, it's a place where second chances abound.

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Careful with the inhaled vocals. I've found that, even though they don't seem to hurt as much, they adversely affect the tone of exhaled vocals. I know a couple people that do them frequently, and even the guy who's the best at it suffers from poor enunciation. IMO you'll be better served by a vocal style that doesn't suck. :D
Oh, I didn't mean inhaled vocals, as they suck horribly. I meant a way of breathing which I learned at training: instead of expanding the abdomen while inhaling and vice versa, it's a reversed way of breathing.
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Oh' date=' that's weird. So you breathe up into your chest rather than down into your diaphragm?[/quote'] Partially, yes. It's still lower than the chest and although the chest does move, it does less than during regular breathing. If I understood my teacher correctly, it was developed from Tai Chi for reasons such as being able to hide where your breathing cycle is, building up power in the abdomen, etc. Apparently it also helps me to be able to sustain harsh vocals without them being reduced to airy notes a bit longer.
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Most of my friends and relatives do to' date=' but I hate that movie. I find both characters to be highly irritating, with the exception of Mike Myers in So I Married an Axe Murderer.[/quote']For me its one of those films that's so bad its good... and come on, mirthmobile
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Most of my friends and relatives do to' date=' but I hate that movie. I find both characters to be highly irritating, with the exception of Mike Myers in So I Married an Axe Murderer.[/quote'] I liked the Austin Powers movies. I thought Wayne's World was kind of ok but haven't seen it in over ten years. I liked Dana Carvey best as Church Lady on SNL.
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I liked the Austin Powers movies. I thought Wayne's World was kind of ok but haven't seen it in over ten years. I liked Dana Carvey best as Church Lady on SNL.
I could stand the first AP movie when it was released, but it has not held up for me over time, and the following movies were shit AFAIC. I agree with you about Church Lady being Dana Carvey's high point, but I still can't stand him.
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I could stand the first AP movie when it was released' date=' but it has not held up for me over time, and the following movies were shit AFAIC. I agree with you about Church Lady being Dana Carvey's high point, but I still can't stand him.[/quote'] Haven't seen Austin Powers since college, honestly, so I don't know if they'd hold up for me either. But I've found myself having more appreciation for really brainless shit like Adam Sandler's stuff, as I've gotten older. I think my standards have dropped.
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Haven't seen Austin Powers since college' date=' honestly, so I don't know if they'd hold up for me either. But I've found myself having more appreciation for really brainless shit like Adam Sandler's stuff, as I've gotten older. I think my standards have dropped.[/quote'] I fucking hate Adam Sandler. I can make it through Happy Gilmore with a laugh or two, maybe due to the nostalgia from seeing it in my childhood, but I absolutely loathe almost everything else I've seen from him.
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I fucking hate Adam Sandler. I can make it through Happy Gilmore with a laugh or two' date=' maybe due to the nostalgia from seeing it in my childhood, but I absolutely loathe almost everything else I've seen from him.[/quote'] That's how I used to feel. One day, for some reason, his stuff started making me laugh instead of grind my teeth. Same with Ben Stiller and Will Ferrell, hated them for years, now I think they're ok.
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That's how I used to feel. One day' date=' for some reason, his stuff started making me laugh instead of grind my teeth. Same with Ben Stiller and Will Ferrell, hated them for years, now I think they're ok.[/quote'] I can pretty much only handle Ben Stiller in Zoolander, and Will Ferrell can be either amazing or horrible. I'm a huge Anchorman fan, and love his more serious movies like Stranger Than Fiction and Everything Must Go, but after Anchorman, his comedies really took a shit.
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I can pretty much only handle Ben Stiller in Zoolander' date=' and Will Ferrell can be either amazing or horrible. I'm a huge Anchorman fan, and love his more serious movies like Stranger Than Fiction and Everything Must Go, but after Anchorman, his comedies really took a shit.[/quote'] Zoolander is probably responsible for turning me on to that kind of dumb comedy. I didn't get Anchorman for years, but once I did, I started liking Will Ferrell in general a lot better, especially his SNL appearances. I'm not a huge SNL fan, I think they're more miss than hit, but there's some real gold in there.
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