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The other day I heard a piece for strings by an English composer I don't know named Peter Warlock. It was masterful in it's use of negative space, which I find the most amazing thing in music. I think it's the principal thing that puts Black Sabbath head and shoulders above just about all other popular music, even The Beatles and Led Zeppelin who out strip them in other categorizes, like lyrically and in the use harmony in the case of the Beatles or in depth and texture and flexibility in the case of Led Zeppelin.

If anyone would like to help me make this post any more pretentious than it is already is, I'd be open to suggestions. It's got a solid Pretension Factor of 8 or even 9, but there is always room for improvement.

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8 minutes ago, GorboGorboze said:

The other day I heard a piece for strings by an English composer I don't know named Peter Warlock. It was masterful in it's use of negative space, which I find the most amazing thing in music. I think it's the principal thing that puts Black Sabbath head and shoulders above just about all other popular music, even The Beatles and Led Zeppelin who out strip them in other categorizes, like lyrically and in the use harmony in the case of the Beatles or in depth and texture and flexibility in the case of Led Zeppelin.

If anyone would like to help me make this post any more pretentious than it is already is, I'd be open to suggestions. It's got a solid Pretension Factor of 8 or even 9, but there is always room for improvement.

You only brought up "aesthetics" obliquely this time. You should make your contempt for empty technique a bit more explicit. Try throwing in something about the "dialectics of compositional rigor" being "at odds with the underlying philosophical framework", perhaps "creating a static tension that soothes rather than titillates, contradicting its surface implications", and maybe something about a blind spot or an Achilles' heel. Also, no discussion of negative space is complete without a John Cage reference - a clever and no doubt intentional lacuna in your own post, an admirable melding of form and content. 

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The other day I heard a piece for strings by an English composer I don't know named Peter Warlock. It was masterful in it's use of negative space, which I find the most amazing thing in music. I think it's the principal thing that puts Black Sabbath head and shoulders above just about all other popular music, even The Beatles and Led Zeppelin who out strip them in other categorizes, like lyrically and in the use harmony in the case of the Beatles or in depth and texture and flexibility in the case of Led Zeppelin.

If anyone would like to help me make this post any more pretentious than it is already is, I'd be open to suggestions. It's got a solid Pretension Factor of 8 or even 9, but there is always room for improvement.

I awoke yesterday morning in a pensive mood, and reached out to the vast body of classical music to fill a space in my soul that seemed empty. It was with astonishment that I found what filled that emptiness best was more of the same, but it was couched in the lofty and carefully structured lines written for strings by a composer that I was but dimly aware of. The man's name was Peter Warlock. Now this is not his given name, mind you, but one that he assumed in the heady atmosphere of occultism that bridged the transition between the 18th to the 19th centuries. Emptiness had surly been a feature of music in the past, and would reach greater extremes in the coming decades, the outer reaches being found in that seminal work of minimalism by John Cage, which I had the pleasure to see performed in church last month. I'm speaking of 4'33" if I have the title correct. I did not recognize it until the second movement when I realized that the pianist was actually keeping track of her wristwatch, and though I'd been enjoying the quit moment, I was the more delighted realizing it was in the contest of such a silent musical revolution, but I digress...

...At the core of the best music I hear there floats this physical space, this apparent pillar of null. The popular band known as Black Sabbath ushered me into an appreciation of this feature sculpted in the void, and is at the origin of the story that brought me to this forum where I compose now with white letters on a black background. I can assure you it was not in the music of Vivaldi, nor in the lyrical genius of the Beatles which were the two other principal influence in my younger years when I first started listening seriously to what lay behind the music. Vivaldi lost all interest when I drew back that curtain, the Beatles seemed to stand there in the underwear saying with a touch of embarrassment "I can't help it mate, I'm a lever puller", but Sabbath just opened up into the void.

I'll just say...tad-hershorn-miles-davis-1990.jpg

...That this man here could say more by holding his breath for a fraction of a second than any off us mere mortal are apt to convey in a lifetime of murmurs and contumely. 

 

edit- Sorry that sound read "... lifetime of plaintive murmurs and contumely".

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17 minutes ago, BlutAusNerd said: Well, the first song on Badmotorfinger is good...

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Too right. So is the second one, and the rest of them, too. 

I'll give you the second and third, just not to the same degree as Rusty Cage. The rest of the album is lost on me though, I totally lose interest at Jesus Christ Pose.

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