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Carcass "Symphonies of Sickness" - currently engaged in a debate on another forum about why this is a death metal album not a grind album in the main.

Which side are you on? It's definitely a grindcore album, but they were moving in the direction of death metal at that time, much like Napalm Death on From Enslavement to Obliteration. Both of which featured Bill Steer on guitar, to further the comparison.

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1 hour ago, True Belief said:

This album has it moments for sure. Not half bad but it's about this time they turned into shit really.

They jumped the shark afterwards. I had given up on this as being irredeemably goofy, but after all this time I find myself impressed by how well everything is integrated. I recall being both miffed and excited (and ultimately disappointed) that they'd got their hands on both Adrian from ATG and Martin from Bride, and it seems like their personalities were subsumed, but the riffs still sound pretty fresh. Writing and mixing stuff with that many different sounds is no mean feat, and Dani's vocal rhythms are on point. It's not quite Cruelty And The Beast, but it's better than I remembered.

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1 hour ago, True Belief said: This album has it moments for sure. Not half bad but it's about this time they turned into shit really.

They jumped the shark afterwards. I had given up on this as being irredeemably goofy, but after all this time I find myself impressed by how well everything is integrated. I recall being both miffed and excited (and ultimately disappointed) that they'd got their hands on both Adrian from ATG and Martin from Bride, and it seems like their personalities were subsumed, but the riffs still sound pretty fresh. Writing and mixing stuff with that many different sounds is no mean feat, and Dani's vocal rhythms are on point. It's not quite Cruelty And The Beast, but it's better than I remembered.

I feel like the riffs are one of the low points of the album. That said, I do agree that it does have a lot going on and it represents a lot of voices very well, and could easily be called their best orchestrated album. Everything but the guitars were on point, and it was pretty creative.

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12 hours ago, BlutAusNerd said:

Which side are you on? It's definitely a grindcore album, but they were moving in the direction of death metal at that time, much like Napalm Death on From Enslavement to Obliteration. Both of which featured Bill Steer on guitar, to further the comparison.

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I think it is more death metal.  Certainly in comparison to "Reek..". There's still lots of grind going on but I think compositionally it is more DM.

 

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9 hours ago, BlutAusNerd said:

I feel like the riffs are one of the low points of the album. That said, I do agree that it does have a lot going on and it represents a lot of voices very well, and could easily be called their best orchestrated album. Everything but the guitars were on point, and it was pretty creative.

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The only lackluster part to my ears is the drum work. I love Adrian's playing, but he sounds robotic in this context. The Nick Barker-style production doesn't help him. 

Anyway, I'll probably be putting the album on again soon; for whatever reason, I'm back in the mood for that sort of ridiculousness. 

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12 hours ago, BlutAusNerd said: Which side are you on? It's definitely a grindcore album, but they were moving in the direction of death metal at that time, much like Napalm Death on From Enslavement to Obliteration. Both of which featured Bill Steer on guitar, to further the comparison.

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I think it is more death metal.  Certainly in comparison to "Reek..". There's still lots of grind going on but I think compositionally it is more DM.

 

NP: Demolition Hammer "Tortured Existence"

Just because the songs are longer? There's still a huge difference in the riffing and song structures between Symphonies and Necroticism, when they picked up a death metal guitarist in the form of Michael Amott from Carnage. That's when they really went death metal, everything about Symphonies still screams grindcore.

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26 minutes ago, BlutAusNerd said:

Just because the songs are longer? There's still a huge difference in the riffing and song structures between Symphonies and Necroticism, when they picked up a death metal guitarist in the form of Michael Amott from Carnage. That's when they really went death metal, everything about Symphonies still screams grindcore.

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Not just because they are longer, although that's a deciding factor.  I just hear more DM than Grindcore on Symphonies, granted Necroticism took it up a notch further but I think Symphonies was more of the transition record.

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22 minutes ago, deathstorm said:

Any good doom bands

I haven't been big on doom either for the past few years, except for a little bit of melodic doom/death like early Katatonia, October Tide, Atten Ash, and (recently) more of Daylight Dies. I'm warming up to more recent My Dying Bride, and I want to get back to that Hooded Menace. BAN, Relentless, True Belief, and Macabre would have more doom recs for you. 

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