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Extreme raw blackened deathgrind ... is it still music ?


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Hello I enjoy a lot of grindcore and deathgrind (like Pig Destroyer, Dying Fetus) so recently a Youtuber that I usually listen to for some black metal and death metal releases told me bout a "raw blackened grind" band Phantom (Divine Necromancy is the name of the album) So I listened to the tracks and while I do enjoy the sound on some moments most of the tracks sound the same to me I like the aggressivity but is it still music ? here is an example 1T5KIPDwrr8

what do you think does it qualify as music or metal ? If no what genre is it ? thanks ps : i'm not harting I said I enjoy a few moments but I'm just confused about the genre
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Usually I don't hear that sound unless our washing machine is buggered up. 3:49 in and that's when they decide to change the beat? Then they go right back to it in less than thirty seconds!...and then keep that beat for the rest of the entire song, keeping the drums nice and high in the mix so you can't focus on anything else at all... This is definitely music, I won't contest that. I'd give it a 1/10 because at least the guitars are sometimes OK. However, it's absolutely starved for ideas and of course it sounds terrible. Man, I thought grind was bad, but this is just atrocious.

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Re: Extreme raw blackened deathgrind ... is it still music ?

Music displays one of the following: harmony' date=' melody, or rhythm. This has all three. Definitely music, and definitely metal. I think the main problem is the mix, drums way two loud, guitars way too low.[/quote'] I think the real main problem is that it sucks. It doesn't sound like they're trying to do anything at all. I like a bunch of more "necro" stuff, but this just sounds like a bad joke. There isn't enough going on musically to make it worth the effort of picking it out, and the atmosphere is like Iceni said: broken washing machine.
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There's only one thing I've heard that's worse than this.... A band called Mammal Sauce. Here's the LINK I am sad to say I am in this "band", and it's just a joke and it makes fun of stuff like this. So if there's anything GOOD about what my joke band does, it's the comedic value, and certainly not the musicality.

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