Bullet For My Valentine

[BlutAusNerd]

Re: Bullet For My Valentine

French group' date=' albums include Identisick, Icon... Encyclopedia Metallum says they're brutal death metal but I seem to remember pig squeals and breakdowns in their sound. Not necessarily the entirety of their style but certainly prominent elements.[/quote'] That probably is them then. I don't remember if I liked them or not, I just have a vague memory of the sound. As far as breakdowns and pig squeals go, deathcore did grab those elements from brutal/slam death, they just incorporated them into the weak base of emocore lyrics and songwriting producing something much more annoying. Actual death metal/hardcore hybrids (like Black Breath's Sentenced to Life) can be pretty cool, they seem more fitting of the label. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

[JBaker]

That probably is them then. I don't remember if I liked them or not, I just have a vague memory of the sound. As far as breakdowns and pig squeals go, deathcore did grab those elements from brutal/slam death, they just incorporated them into the weak base of emocore lyrics and songwriting producing something much more annoying. Actual death metal/hardcore hybrids (like Black Breath's Sentenced to Life) can be pretty cool, they seem more fitting of the label. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

Yeah. From what I remember they're definitely not deathcore, at least not in the Suicide Silence sense. There's a lot more genuine death metal in their sound, even if they do use the odd pig squeal/breakdown.

[FatherAlabaster]

Re: Bullet For My Valentine

Of course' date=' my first post in a looong time has something to do with genre-debating and/or "core" subgenres. Here comes KSmash with the genre patrol...[/quote'] All we need now is NTNR to tell us how much hardcore sucks, and the place will start feeling like home.

[Iceni]

All we need now is NTNR to tell us how much hardcore sucks

You need NTNR to tell you that?

[FatherAlabaster]

Re: Bullet For My Valentine

You need NTNR to tell you that?

It's fun to see someone who can be so consistently and confidently wrong about it. I like a lot of hardcore and hardcore-inspired music.

[deathstorm]

Hey alabaster if nttr aka mike was here. When this guy. Was here. Oh man mike will have field day. With white and sticky.

[deathstorm]

We should. Have drop a safe on him on as well like wile e coyete. As well another heaviest of metal there lol

[Iceni]

We should. Have drop a safe on him on as well like wile e coyete. As well another heaviest of metal there lol

I will use this line... "Osmium's new album 'Epicus Soliliqus' drops into stores with all the momentum and heavy f*cking metal of a Looney Tunes safe!"

[FatherAlabaster]

I prefer Thickhëad's quadruple album, "Anvil Ov The Absolute". Listen, and be flattened against this slab of doom by the Hammer of the Numinous.

[Iceni]

Hammer of the Numinous.

Always a pleasure to meet a Kant reference.

[FatherAlabaster]

Hey alabaster if nttr aka mike was here. When this guy. Was here. Oh man mike will have field day. With white and sticky.

Yeah, either that or he would have just ignored him completely.

[deathstorm]

Yeah I agree

[Atrocity]

Sorry to change the subject, but I don't know where to put this question. When you meet new people and you tell them that you like metal, do they suddenly change their attitude and start trying,in a way, to show you that they "understand" you? I was talking to a girl the other day and when the music subject came along and when I mentioned metal, her response was: "That's nice. I like Evanescence." Soo what should I do with that information? And it's not the first time it happens. Whenever I say I like metal people start talking about pop artist that have a guitar like Breaking Benjamin or whatever their name is, like they are trying to show me they also listen to something "heavy". I don't understand that behavior and I was wondering if any of you had similar experience or of people around me are simply crazy?

[RelentlessOblivion]

Well as a species we simple apes are obviously insane but to answer your question yes this happens to many of us. Other responses include "I said what music do you listen to, that garbage doesn't qualify".

[FatherAlabaster]

It's not them, it's you. I honestly don't even remember the last time it came up, for me. I'd say, if anything, that it just sounds like people trying to relate in whatever way they can - it's natural. I bet it stops happening when you're older... of course if you're anything like me, people just won't want to talk to you in the first place.

[FatherAlabaster]

"I said what music do you listen to' date= that garbage doesn't qualify".

[RelentlessOblivion]

Yes but that's what happens when you look like Shrek

[FatherAlabaster]

Indeed, I'm even green most of the time.

[RelentlessOblivion]

Taking "mean, green, fighting machine" literally

[Iceni]

Sorry to change the subject' date=' but I don't know where to put this question. When you meet new people and you tell them that you like metal, do they suddenly change their attitude and start trying,in a way, to show you that they "understand" you? I was talking to a girl the other day and when the music subject came along and when I mentioned metal, her response was: "That's nice. I like Evanescence." Soo what should I do with that information? And it's not the first time it happens. Whenever I say I like metal people start talking about pop artist that have a guitar like Breaking Benjamin or whatever their name is, like they are trying to show me they also listen to something "heavy".[/quote'] Many people seem to think that variety in music is the best criterion for judging musical tastes. When I tell people I listen to metal I frequently get the response: 'Anything else?' Usually I reply that there's plenty of variety in metal music to suit my yen for diversity, generally speaking. I suspect that they're very much caught off-guard by somebody who likes an odd genre - but by the same token they don't like to admit that they know bugger all about said genre. As a result, they like to invoke their broad listening tastes to encompass the punk/metaller/Pakistani ritual chant enthusiast (yes, I have met someone at Georgetown who collects the stuff) to try to make evident that they, as broader listeners, comprehend and understand the other person. Generally my impression is also that this is a gesture of self-assertion. By saying they 'listen to everything' they're making a similar statement to people who use that asinine analogy about blind men feeling different bits of an elephant: that they are above such petty distinctions and encompass the entire musical spectrum. By mentioning one band, however, they can simultaneously signal that they aren't enthusiastic or involved - which in their view would mean that they are owned by their music and enveloped by their enthusiasm, as the enthusiast with their small, primitive, fire-loving brain would be. They are touting their jaded, apathetic detachment as a point of pride to demonstrate their own personal strength. Ultimately, these people are trying to make it plain to you that they aren't too attached to anything, that they are free spirits, and frankly just too bloody cool to give a rat's ass. ...yes, this has happened to me before.

[RelentlessOblivion]

The irony is, of course, that these individuals are far from free spirited music enthusiasts and only listen to the pre-approved socially accepted genres to showcase their facade of diversity.

[FatherAlabaster]

@ Iceni: Too analytical. But for what it's worth, I know plenty of people who are either musically omnivorous (not interested in specializing) or just not that interested in music in general. There's nothing wrong with that. I doubt that 98% of the people you meet who name-drop a shitty mainstream band are doing it to slap you in the face with how little they care. For that matter I know some people who are into more mainstream metal, have heard a lot of other (more underground) stuff, and really don't care for it for reasons of production value, dynamics, message, emotional content, whatever. I've said it as a joke before, but I mean it, too - we're the weird ones.

[RelentlessOblivion]

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Weird is just a by-word for interesting.

[deathstorm]

Wanky sounded like a douchebag. Heaviest. of metal. We should shove In a iron maiden. The toutre device.

[Iceni]

@ Iceni: Too analytical.

And that's how you know it's me.

I doubt that 98% of the people you meet who name-drop a shitty mainstream band are doing it to slap you in the face with how little they care.

Ninety-eight percent of name-droppers, no. 98% of people I meet, yes. My general assumption is that most folks who get into a conversation with me and do something like that do so out of a conversational self-defense reflex. It might not even be spiteful, just something they've learned in order to survive their bizarre need to be loved by their peers.