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Re: Avant-Garde Metal Ack. Never liked Unexpect. I suppose if you like them you'd probably like Diablo Swing Orchestra as well, and maybe Arcturus. Mirrorthrone is downright scary. Really good band, though...I also like Sigh, if only on Imaginary Sonicscape. I'd call Suspyre avant-garde too since they use saxophones on occasion and often have orchestral passages, although granted, they're not quite as weird as these other bands.

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They are the one band who can use digitally altered vocals and still be awesome. I might add Van Canto to this list...just heard some of their material and I do not know whether it is awesome, hilarious or both. I think it's both, just because of the vocal breakdown in 'Lost Forever'. It's somewhat sad that that particular breakdown was more enjoyable than many of Separatist's slow-mo chugs.
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I'll take the hilarious side. They're not really my cup of tea' date=' and I view them as more of a gimmick than anything.[/quote'] I do think they get undue praise but they're definitely not bad. I'd really like to hear them sing with a conventional band, that could be great.
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Ack. Never liked Unexpect. I suppose if you like them you'd probably like Diablo Swing Orchestra as well, and maybe Arcturus. Mirrorthrone is downright scary. Really good band, though...I also like Sigh, if only on Imaginary Sonicscape. I'd call Suspyre avant-garde too since they use saxophones on occasion and often have orchestral passages, although granted, they're not quite as weird as these other bands.
Yes to all of these but Mirrorthrone, plz. :3 Anyways yeah, Unexpect does take a bit of getting used to.
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Yes to all of these but Mirrorthrone, plz. :3 Anyways yeah, Unexpect does take a bit of getting used to.
No, Mirrorthrone is great, from what I hear from them. Not very many bands that can really get the frightened atmosphere right.
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Re: Avant-Garde Metal Avant-garde is really only possible to determine about 20 years afterwards, since it is, after all, music considered ahead of its time. But I find it to be a more hardcore, innovative and experimental version of prog, that even fewer people understand.

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Re: Avant-Garde Metal what is deemed avante garde is definitely to do with the time period it happens to be in, what was once avante garde is not now, and what is avante garde now may not be in future it's one of those things that is always changing and evolving, i tend not to use the term too much because people either don't agree when i say something is avante garde, or they don't know what i'm talking about

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Easy, they suck! :D
Khanate falls into that category, no doubt about it. As for Zyggie's comment, I do agree. People say Portal is avant-garde, but really it just sounds like stock death metal with really bad sound production.
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