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Mnemic' date=' to me, is the worst aspects of modern Fear Factory and Soilwork in one package. Massively mallcore, completely uninteresting, chugging riffs that go nowhere offset by random pop/goth choruses, overall it's a train wreck. Believe me when I say that they were even worse live, ranking up there with some of the worst bands I've ever seen.[/quote'] Meh. 'Liquid' wasn't too bad. Interestingly, I did think while listening to them that they probably would be pretty grating live. As for 'massively mallcore', I really have to disagree. They're too industrial for me to put them in that category. To me, massively mallcore is more like Bring Me The Horizon, Bullet For My Valentine and Black Veil Brides...anything that Hot Topic would advertise for its primary demographic. (Interestingly, I got my Battlelore shirt from Hot Topic online) Then again, I really don't know the difference between metalcore, mallcore, deathcore, and scene kid music. Would you put Nine Inch Nails and Marilyn Manson into the same category as Mnemic? Rating the McDonald's I ate today and slating that that's the end of the gift card...
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It really all ends up falling under the category of pop + metal, so I guess it's not a big deal which label it falls under. I would call Marilyn Manson mallcore, but NIN were just gothic industrial/rock, and now are more electronic/drums and bass sounding. It doesn't really matter if they're industrial or not, they can still be mallcore, like Static X for example, or Fear Factory's Digimortal album.
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It really all ends up falling under the category of pop + metal' date=' so I guess it's not a big deal which label it falls under. I would call Marilyn Manson mallcore, but NIN were just gothic industrial/rock, and now are more electronic/drums and bass sounding. It doesn't really matter if they're industrial or not, they can still be mallcore, like Static X for example, or Fear Factory's Digimortal album.[/quote'] OK, NIN has clearly changed then...last I heard them they possessed the acoustic quality of fingernails on a blackboard. Still though, how far does this mallcore label stretch? Meshuggah isn't considered mallcore but the djent bands that they inspired sure do have a lot of pop sound to them (Periphery sticks out in particular). Rating the free time I have now that my schedule's less hectic. Slating that I haven't got enough funds to eat anywhere different.
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OK, NIN has clearly changed then...last I heard them they possessed the acoustic quality of fingernails on a blackboard. Still though, how far does this mallcore label stretch? Meshuggah isn't considered mallcore but the djent bands that they inspired sure do have a lot of pop sound to them (Periphery sticks out in particular). Rating the free time I have now that my schedule's less hectic. Slating that I haven't got enough funds to eat anywhere different.
Mallcore is really just a generic derogatory label for any -core that is made with the intention of being sold to a mainstream crowd, usually through stores like Hot Topic or other locations in the mall. Therefore, it can encompass a variety of pop/metal hybrids. As far as influence goes, there are plenty of metal bands that start non-metal trends. Anthrax and Pantera were a big influence on nu-metal, At the Gates and In Flames are what modern melodic metalcore is based on, but it was by isolating pieces of these band's sounds and combining them with pop music that caused the problem, not the bands themselves.
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slating - that the folks still think my love of metal is "just a phase" I've been listening to metal for nearly 9 years now how is that a phase?
It's just another way for someone to try to rationalize something they don't understand, they don't see any value in it, so they think that it must be a stage of youth. Tell that to all of the bands that are still going or have broken up and reformed 20 or more years after their inception, that's some phase.
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Re: Rate and Slate They may well think they understand it, and they probably do not like it. Again, the typical stereotypes really don't help... Even so, since metal is tied to rebellion people naturally tie it to a youth's rebellious phase, skimming over the fact that metal's rebellion and youth rebellion may be entirely different phenomena, directed at entirely different entities. I've actually grown to like how much metal often resembles libertarian political thought, in its love for personal liberty (and dislike of fascism and misuse of power) and responsibility. Rating the McDonald's I had today, slating that Random Eyes started sucking on their latest album.

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Re: Rate and Slate I think my folks do get the basic idea of metal but don't agree with the images and idealogies of the genre, fortunately I only have to deal with it for another three years or so until I finish at uni then I'll be able to afford my own place rating - that I finished learning Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak slating - that my guitar teacher is making me learn Hotel California...yuck

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They may well think they understand it, and they probably do not like it. Again, the typical stereotypes really don't help... Even so, since metal is tied to rebellion people naturally tie it to a youth's rebellious phase, skimming over the fact that metal's rebellion and youth rebellion may be entirely different phenomena, directed at entirely different entities. I've actually grown to like how much metal often resembles libertarian political thought, in its love for personal liberty (and dislike of fascism and misuse of power) and responsibility. Rating the McDonald's I had today, slating that Random Eyes started sucking on their latest album.
I think that's about your 3rd Mcdonald's post, what's with that? Rating: Spicy food going in. Slating: Spicy food going out.
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Slating: The US release date is 2-14! and the only way to get it prior to that is to pay way to much for the fucking import!
Wait...isn't that Valentine's Day? :| Weird time for a doom release to come out... I remember paying $60 for 'Hero' by Divinefire...thank goodness I loved it! What's really just pathetic is that I remember eagerly awaiting the release of Symphony X's 'Iconoclast'. Symphony X, a NEW JERSEY band, released their album to Europe a week or so before they released it here in the US! A sign of the times, maybe...is metal really so dead here that Europe's a better market? Rating bacon. Slating that the only way to get my Sansa to play from both speakers is to jam the jack against the port, so it's always a delicate balancing act. Every time I want to press a button I have to be careful not to upset the setup.
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Re: Rate and Slate Rating the funny and well-performed parodies by Tim Hawkins. Slating the fact that the weather is just cold enough to warrant a sweater, and just hot enough that you smell terrible once you reach your destination.

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