Would the world be a better place today if Hitler conquered the world?

[RelentlessOblivion]

I'm not sure where you're getting that from' date=' Hitler didn't have much of an economic policy at all.[/quote'] He came to power at a time where Germany's inflation rate was insanely high, the cost of living was unacceptably high, and actually improved the situation. That takes some economic nouse surely. His military tactics also proved extremely effective. Then there was the idea of creating an affordable motor vehicle for the general population. Sure he did some truly terrible things but the man was quite intelligent.

[Iceni]

His military tactics also proved extremely effective.

Not at all. It was Heinz Guderian who wrote on tank warfare and more broadly laid the groundwork for blitzkrieg. Hitler was the jackass who thought the Me262 should be a bomber rather than an interceptor fighter, despite it being a one-person, lightweight jet-powered aircraft. Also he decided it'd be a great strategic move to attack the USSR (a nation for whose creation the German state was in large part responsible considering that they facilitated Vladimir Lenin's return to Russia during WW1) after having made a treaty with them, before the war was really finished.

[deathstorm]

Those same german jets where shot down by the team the movie was named after

[RelentlessOblivion]

Not at all. It was Heinz Guderian who wrote on tank warfare and more broadly laid the groundwork for blitzkrieg. Hitler was the jackass who thought the Me262 should be a bomber rather than an interceptor fighter' date=' despite it being a one-person, lightweight jet-powered aircraft. Also he decided it'd be a great strategic move to attack the USSR (a nation for whose creation the German state was in large part responsible considering that they facilitated Vladimir Lenin's return to Russia during WW1) after having made a treaty with them, before the war was really finished.[/quote'] I stand corrected, thank the Gods one of us knows their history.

[deathstorm]

Another thing about hilter didn't he also build the Hindenburg that crash landed. In lakehurst. New Jersey.

[BlutAusNerd]

He came to power at a time where Germany's inflation rate was insanely high' date=' the cost of living was unacceptably high, and actually improved the situation. That takes some economic nouse surely. His military tactics also proved extremely effective. Then there was the idea of creating an affordable motor vehicle for the general population. Sure he did some truly terrible things but the man was quite intelligent.[/quote'] Had they not been annexing and conquering other economies to feed off of, the situation would have continued. Hitler provided no solutions, the spoils of war would have eventually run out and their economy would have collapsed like the Soviet union.

[Iceni]

Another thing about hilter didn't he also build the Hindenburg that crash landed. In lakehurst. New Jersey.

Well, apparently the company that made them got funding from Goebbels so yeah, kinda. Blimps are making a comeback nowadays, the army likes the idea of a large, efficient, slow-moving craft to do surveillance and/or missile command over the country - any role where they have to be up in the air for a long time in a relatively safe zone. They've also been proposed for massive transport once a beachhead has been established and there's no fear of anti-aircraft equipment.

[welkyn]

BlutAusNerd: hate to break it to you, but Hitler fixed Germany's utterly disastrous economy before he engaged in any conflict with any other nation. In fact, he was only capable of marshaling forces because he'd sorted out the economy so well. Would the world be a better place? No, it would be a different place. We might have had less of an environmental disaster than we've had in the past sixty years (given the Nazis' emphasis on nature and natural, simple living), but we would no doubt have a much more rigidly defined social structure, and one which took ethnicity into account to boot (which is quite bizarre, and not particularly effective, really). Morally, we would be better off; socially, we would be worse off. Technologically, who can say? There would have been less of an emphasis on weaponry and more of an emphasis on livingry, but it would still have been a case of "us vs. them" mentality pervading society, meaning that only the privileged few would have been able to make use of the top technologies. I mean, it would've been a particular race and caste instead of the money-grubbers who cheated their way to the top, so in a way it might be a little more fair...? No, I can't really even say that. It would just have been different, but we would still have a shitty time of it. It's the time that makes the society, not the society that makes the time. Since the time is bad (kali yuga etc.), the societies are bad.

[deathstorm]

Well, apparently the company that made them got funding from Goebbels so yeah, kinda. Blimps are making a comeback nowadays, the army likes the idea of a large, efficient, slow-moving craft to do surveillance and/or missile command over the country - any role where they have to be up in the air for a long time in a relatively safe zone. They've also been proposed for massive transport once a beachhead has been established and there's no fear of anti-aircraft equipment.

I actully saw a navy blimp as well flying

[RelentlessOblivion]

Yes let's place a large, slow moving, highly unstable craft in enemy territory for the purposes of surveillance and intelligence gathering. What could possibly go wrong?

[Iceni]

Yes let's place a large' date=' slow moving, highly unstable craft in enemy territory for the purposes of surveillance and intelligence gathering. What could possibly go wrong?[/quote'] Although I do realize when I said 'over the country' I should have said 'the home country'. The way I've framed it means that 'the country' could mean 'enemy territory'.

[deathstorm]

It's just a goodyear blimp. Or a snoopy blimp terrorist Wont it's miltary disquised as a. Snoopy blimp.

[RaiCoss]

Yes let's place a large' date=' slow moving, highly unstable craft in enemy territory for the purposes of surveillance and intelligence gathering. What could possibly go wrong?[/quote'] The French would still surrender.

[Iceni]

The French would still surrender.

The French? You mean the French who unilaterally acted to help stabilize Cote d'Ivoire and Mali in the past five years while the international community sat on their hands and did sod-all except bitch and moan and wring their hands like they always do? The French, who have enjoyed thousands of years of military success, including a century-long conquest of England, who always get judged on six years of that history? "According to the historian Niall Ferguson, of the 125 major European wars fought since 1495, the French have participated in 50 – more than Austria (47) and England (43). Out of 168 battles fought since 387BC, they have won 109, lost 49 and drawn 10." (Telegraph, Oct. 22nd, 2010).

[RaiCoss]

The French? You mean the French who unilaterally acted to help stabilize Cote d'Ivoire and Mali in the past five years while the international community sat on their hands and did sod-all except bitch and moan and wring their hands like they always do? The French' date=' who have enjoyed thousands of years of military success, including a century-long conquest of England, who always get judged on six years of that history? "According to the historian Niall Ferguson, of the 125 major European wars fought since 1495, the French have participated in 50 – more than Austria (47) and England (43). Out of 168 battles fought since 387BC, they have won 109, lost 49 and drawn 10." (Telegraph, Oct. 22nd, 2010).[/quote'] Do you always take jokes so seriously?

[RelentlessOblivion]

He's like the Germans he is capable of laughter but only if you tell him when and how.

[RaiCoss]

He's like the Germans he is capable of laughter but only if you tell him when and how.

Except the Germans are actually really funny. They tend to have a very deadpan sense of humour. Wait. I just did an Iceni didn't I?

[RelentlessOblivion]

I may be biased but I think Australians are, by and large, the funniest people on the planet.

[Iceni]

Except the Germans are actually really funny. They tend to have a very deadpan sense of humour. Wait. I just did an Iceni didn't I?

If you mean you just did an 'accurate', then yes. By the way, if you want a country with a terrible military record and real chickensh*ts for soldiers try Bangladesh. Or Iraq. Or ISIS, for that matter.

[RaiCoss]

If you mean you just did an 'accurate', then yes. By the way, if you want a country with a terrible military record and real chickensh*ts for soldiers try Bangladesh. Or Iraq. Or ISIS, for that matter.

Your last post was like reading something by the Rain Man. And let's not get into countries with terrible military records considering where you're from eh? Sent from my GT-I5500 using Tapatalk 2

[Gomorrah]

There would probably be rebellions of some sort at some point. Just hope we're able to develop some sort of decent international economic and political system before we destroy ourselves. Can't really afford another world war with our level of technology these days... I think it's time we make international forums of debate a priority, just so that we can work together as a race - always looking to develop nations on common interests instead of only looking to further our own...

[deathstorm]

That I agree with you do dude

[RelentlessOblivion]

It is entirely possible that the world would be more or less the same.

[deathstorm]

Yeah I'm jealous. Lol

[Iceni]

And let's not get into countries with terrible military records considering where you're from eh?

I'm from the country that beat your country in 1779 with an army of farmers, mainly by A) aiming guns rather than volley fire and getting help from - guess who? - the French.