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DIOCLETIAN - Gesundrian. Say no more.
 

King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard/Omnium Gatherum 

Something we can agree on.
They were. Most were trying to emulate Ian Curtis of Joy Division, Robert Smith of the Cure, or Peter Murphy of Bauhaus.
This is the correct answer.
This is the way. But I'll do one better.
Teitanblood - Seven Chalices
 

Bizarre thing is the older I get the more close minded I am about music.  I used to listen to more diverse music in my youth than I do now.  
 
Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind

I think that's a pretty reasonable position. We can't possibly like all music, but I think people should at least give something a go before rejecting it outright. I think of it like food. I'll try anything once. I may not like it, but unless I give it a try how would I know. I don't like cucumbers, pickles, or olives. You'll never see me put one in my mouth. I think they are disgusting, but I have tried them several times. I had an aversion to these as a kid, and since we all know our tastes change as we age, I've periodically given them a go to re-evaluate. I've done the same with music.
Back in the 80's, I had an aversion to classic rock (dad's music), goth/post-punk (loser kids), and country (fucking redneck shit). The older I get, the more I appreciate these specific styles. Classic rock - quite a bit of the non-radio regular songs (aka Deep Tracks) are pretty badass, and it takes me back to when pops and I had a good relationship before shit went sideways later in life. Post-punk - mainly for the musicianship and creativity. Peter Hook's brilliant bass lines, Robert Smith's lead guitar, Siouxie Sioux's vocal control, melodies, atmosphere. I would agree that much of it sucks, but the good shit is really good shit. Country - I just never appreciated it but old country, folk, and bluegrass can be just as raw, emotional, thought-provoking, and disturbing as any metal or rock. You gotta find the good stuff though. Not the crap you hear on the radio, then or now. Johnny Cash might be the most metal motherfucker that ever lived not named Lemmy. Some of it may be nostalgia for simpler times, but I think that's a) unavoidable and b) not necessarily a bad thing. Music is supposed to make you feel stuff, appreciate, enjoy, improve. Nostalgia is just another color in the crayola box.
All of our musical tastes are an accumulation of our likes, exposures, and life experiences. I came up playing in proper bands. Symphonic, jazz, and garage. I learned theory and composition as well. I trained on upright bass, electric bass, tuba, and trombone. So musicianship and composition speak to me more than the vocals. I can tolerate a less than stellar vocalist if everything else is in order, but I can also throw out something if the vocalist is terrible. Everyone comes to the table from a different direction, none of them are incorrect as long as they are not condemning everyone else for not going about it the "right" way. Just the fact that you're giving some of these bands a go is worthy of recognition. I revisit some bands I don't care for periodically in the same way I do cucumbers (olives will never get another shot) just to see if there's anything there I might enjoy these days. Might be Tool like a few nights ago or some overplayed 80's new wave like Tears for Fears. Sometimes I find something worthwhile, most times it goes back on the shelf for another go in a few years. You don't know unless you try.
And for the record, anyone who doesn't like the Ramones probably spent their life pursuing some mind-numbingly boring pursuit and has no sense of humor. Probably a drag at parties too.

Something we can agree on.
They were. Most were trying to emulate Ian Curtis of Joy Division, Robert Smith of the Cure, or Peter Murphy of Bauhaus.
This is the correct answer.
This is the way. But I'll do one better.
Teitanblood - Seven Chalices
 

Diocletian - Doom Cult (2009)
Stop eating olives (and goochies) ya mentalists and listen to Diocletian instead.

You know it's funny you call classic rock your dad's music. My dad was born in 1934 (he died in 2007) and I guess he was just a little too old for classic rock. As far as I knew he liked 50's and 60's folk music almost exclusively, Kingston Trio, PP&M and especially Bob Dylan. So I guess those handful of Beatles albums in the record cabinet in the late 60's must have been my mom's. When I got to my teens I remember playing some hard rock for him a few times, Zeppelin, Sabbath, Aerosmith, Nugent, Hendrix...and he didn't make me turn it off, but it clearly wasn't doing anything for him. He didn't really listen to music that often like I do (they didn't even feel the need to have a radio in the family car in the 60's and early 70's - not until they started coming in most cars as standard equipment like power steering and power windows later in the 70's) but as he got older into his 50's in addition to Dylan he also got into (early) Billy Joel and Bruce Springsteen. He seemed to like songwriters who told stories with their lyrics, moreso than he was into the musical end of it. But then later in his 60's after he'd retired I noticed he had come around to embrace "classic rock" which he hadn't ever shown any interest in before when I was living there. And music really seemed to lighten him up, suddenly when I'd go over for holidays n stuff he'd always be downstairs jamming his classic rock music (Boston, Fleetwood Mac, Steely Dan, the Eagles, 70's stuff mostly) and smoking his cigars. I'm glad he found the joy of music before he died, not that we exactly bonded over it when he was alive (our bonding was over sports) but just since music has always been such an integral part of my life, I like to think that he shared and understood my love of music at the end of his life at least, even if it was different music. No idea what he'd think of extreme metal, I'm sure he'd laugh and make some smart-ass crack about it being just noise.
Ther food analogy is a good one. You'd never seriously rag on someone just for liking different foods than you, and ragging on people for liking different music than you is just as stupid. The music itself though is fair game to be deridden.

Goddammit...it's a taint, because it ain't one or the other
 
Fäust - Death From Beyond
Dissection worship...but maybe a bit to clean
 

Olives are great. I've always said, you meet a guy who doesn't like olives, you probably can't trust his other opinions either. I'd be inclined to agree with most of the rest of your post, even though Ramones are pretty much for the birds - and yes, painting and playing guitar are mind-numbingly boring, just ask my wife - but here you are, a guy who doesn't like olives, and it's put all of these other shared opinions on shaky ground. Maybe knee-jerk rejection based on vague pre-existing impressions is the way to go. Fucking olives man. A lot to mull over here.

I feel the same way about anyone who hates olives.

I think that's a pretty reasonable position. We can't possibly like all music, but I think people should at least give something a go before rejecting it outright. I think of it like food. I'll try anything once. I may not like it, but unless I give it a try how would I know. I don't like cucumbers, pickles, or olives. You'll never see me put one in my mouth. I think they are disgusting, but I have tried them several times. I had an aversion to these as a kid, and since we all know our tastes change as we age, I've periodically given them a go to re-evaluate. I've done the same with music.
Back in the 80's, I had an aversion to classic rock (dad's music), goth/post-punk (loser kids), and country (fucking redneck shit). The older I get, the more I appreciate these specific styles. Classic rock - quite a bit of the non-radio regular songs (aka Deep Tracks) are pretty badass, and it takes me back to when pops and I had a good relationship before shit went sideways later in life. Post-punk - mainly for the musicianship and creativity. Peter Hook's brilliant bass lines, Robert Smith's lead guitar, Siouxie Sioux's vocal control, melodies, atmosphere. I would agree that much of it sucks, but the good shit is really good shit. Country - I just never appreciated it but old country, folk, and bluegrass can be just as raw, emotional, thought-provoking, and disturbing as any metal or rock. You gotta find the good stuff though. Not the crap you hear on the radio, then or now. Johnny Cash might be the most metal motherfucker that ever lived not named Lemmy. Some of it may be nostalgia for simpler times, but I think that's a) unavoidable and b) not necessarily a bad thing. Music is supposed to make you feel stuff, appreciate, enjoy, improve. Nostalgia is just another color in the crayola box.
All of our musical tastes are an accumulation of our likes, exposures, and life experiences. I came up playing in proper bands. Symphonic, jazz, and garage. I learned theory and composition as well. I trained on upright bass, electric bass, tuba, and trombone. So musicianship and composition speak to me more than the vocals. I can tolerate a less than stellar vocalist if everything else is in order, but I can also throw out something if the vocalist is terrible. Everyone comes to the table from a different direction, none of them are incorrect as long as they are not condemning everyone else for not going about it the "right" way. Just the fact that you're giving some of these bands a go is worthy of recognition. I revisit some bands I don't care for periodically in the same way I do cucumbers (olives will never get another shot) just to see if there's anything there I might enjoy these days. Might be Tool like a few nights ago or some overplayed 80's new wave like Tears for Fears. Sometimes I find something worthwhile, most times it goes back on the shelf for another go in a few years. You don't know unless you try.
And for the record, anyone who doesn't like the Ramones probably spent their life pursuing some mind-numbingly boring pursuit and has no sense of humor. Probably a drag at parties too.

I think that's a pretty reasonable position. We can't possibly like all music, but I think people should at least give something a go before rejecting it outright. I think of it like food. I'll try anything once. I may not like it, but unless I give it a try how would I know. I don't like cucumbers, pickles, or olives. You'll never see me put one in my mouth. I think they are disgusting, but I have tried them several times. I had an aversion to these as a kid, and since we all know our tastes change as we age, I've periodically given them a go to re-evaluate. I've done the same with music.
Back in the 80's, I had an aversion to classic rock (dad's music), goth/post-punk (loser kids), and country (fucking redneck shit). The older I get, the more I appreciate these specific styles. Classic rock - quite a bit of the non-radio regular songs (aka Deep Tracks) are pretty badass, and it takes me back to when pops and I had a good relationship before shit went sideways later in life. Post-punk - mainly for the musicianship and creativity. Peter Hook's brilliant bass lines, Robert Smith's lead guitar, Siouxie Sioux's vocal control, melodies, atmosphere. I would agree that much of it sucks, but the good shit is really good shit. Country - I just never appreciated it but old country, folk, and bluegrass can be just as raw, emotional, thought-provoking, and disturbing as any metal or rock. You gotta find the good stuff though. Not the crap you hear on the radio, then or now. Johnny Cash might be the most metal motherfucker that ever lived not named Lemmy. Some of it may be nostalgia for simpler times, but I think that's a) unavoidable and b) not necessarily a bad thing. Music is supposed to make you feel stuff, appreciate, enjoy, improve. Nostalgia is just another color in the crayola box.
All of our musical tastes are an accumulation of our likes, exposures, and life experiences. I came up playing in proper bands. Symphonic, jazz, and garage. I learned theory and composition as well. I trained on upright bass, electric bass, tuba, and trombone. So musicianship and composition speak to me more than the vocals. I can tolerate a less than stellar vocalist if everything else is in order, but I can also throw out something if the vocalist is terrible. Everyone comes to the table from a different direction, none of them are incorrect as long as they are not condemning everyone else for not going about it the "right" way. Just the fact that you're giving some of these bands a go is worthy of recognition. I revisit some bands I don't care for periodically in the same way I do cucumbers (olives will never get another shot) just to see if there's anything there I might enjoy these days. Might be Tool like a few nights ago or some overplayed 80's new wave like Tears for Fears. Sometimes I find something worthwhile, most times it goes back on the shelf for another go in a few years. You don't know unless you try.
And for the record, anyone who doesn't like the Ramones probably spent their life pursuing some mind-numbingly boring pursuit and has no sense of humor. Probably a drag at parties too.

I found myself in the pit at 3 shows this year (Mercyful Fate - not really a pit more pushing, shoving, and getting stepped on, Blood Incantation, and Demolition Hammer). 3 things I learned:
1) I am much too old for that bullshit. My neck is no longer tolerant of crowdsurfers being dropped on my head nor is the rest of me in anyway interested in the abuse.
2) Detracts from my enjoyment of the show. Yeah, I'm an old guy now, but standing back and watching the antics plus the band is far better than participating in said antics and missing the band.
3) I lose too much shit in the pit. Stainless water bottle, earpro, cell phone (more than once).
Show me a better riff, I dare you. If you don't listen to this album at max volume, we can't be friends.
Riff Raff
 

I think that's a pretty reasonable position. We can't possibly like all music, but I think people should at least give something a go before rejecting it outright. I think of it like food. I'll try anything once. I may not like it, but unless I give it a try how would I know. I don't like cucumbers, pickles, or olives. You'll never see me put one in my mouth. I think they are disgusting, but I have tried them several times. I had an aversion to these as a kid, and since we all know our tastes change as we age, I've periodically given them a go to re-evaluate. I've done the same with music.
Back in the 80's, I had an aversion to classic rock (dad's music), goth/post-punk (loser kids), and country (fucking redneck shit). The older I get, the more I appreciate these specific styles. Classic rock - quite a bit of the non-radio regular songs (aka Deep Tracks) are pretty badass, and it takes me back to when pops and I had a good relationship before shit went sideways later in life. Post-punk - mainly for the musicianship and creativity. Peter Hook's brilliant bass lines, Robert Smith's lead guitar, Siouxie Sioux's vocal control, melodies, atmosphere. I would agree that much of it sucks, but the good shit is really good shit. Country - I just never appreciated it but old country, folk, and bluegrass can be just as raw, emotional, thought-provoking, and disturbing as any metal or rock. You gotta find the good stuff though. Not the crap you hear on the radio, then or now. Johnny Cash might be the most metal motherfucker that ever lived not named Lemmy. Some of it may be nostalgia for simpler times, but I think that's a) unavoidable and b) not necessarily a bad thing. Music is supposed to make you feel stuff, appreciate, enjoy, improve. Nostalgia is just another color in the crayola box.
All of our musical tastes are an accumulation of our likes, exposures, and life experiences. I came up playing in proper bands. Symphonic, jazz, and garage. I learned theory and composition as well. I trained on upright bass, electric bass, tuba, and trombone. So musicianship and composition speak to me more than the vocals. I can tolerate a less than stellar vocalist if everything else is in order, but I can also throw out something if the vocalist is terrible. Everyone comes to the table from a different direction, none of them are incorrect as long as they are not condemning everyone else for not going about it the "right" way. Just the fact that you're giving some of these bands a go is worthy of recognition. I revisit some bands I don't care for periodically in the same way I do cucumbers (olives will never get another shot) just to see if there's anything there I might enjoy these days. Might be Tool like a few nights ago or some overplayed 80's new wave like Tears for Fears. Sometimes I find something worthwhile, most times it goes back on the shelf for another go in a few years. You don't know unless you try.
And for the record, anyone who doesn't like the Ramones probably spent their life pursuing some mind-numbingly boring pursuit and has no sense of humor. Probably a drag at parties too.

Agreed on all 3.  However my problem is deep down inside I am pretty fucking dumb.
 
Sepultura - Chaos AD

I found myself in the pit at 3 shows this year (Mercyful Fate - not really a pit more pushing, shoving, and getting stepped on, Blood Incantation, and Demolition Hammer). 3 things I learned:
1) I am much too old for that bullshit. My neck is no longer tolerant of crowdsurfers being dropped on my head nor is the rest of me in anyway interested in the abuse.
2) Detracts from my enjoyment of the show. Yeah, I'm an old guy now, but standing back and watching the antics plus the band is far better than participating in said antics and missing the band.
3) I lose too much shit in the pit. Stainless water bottle, earpro, cell phone (more than once).
Show me a better riff, I dare you. If you don't listen to this album at max volume, we can't be friends.
Riff Raff
 

Enjoyed your post Mark.
I don't agree with people forming their musical taste in middle school. I mean obviously many people do, if not middle school (for me that was '73 to '76) then certainly in high school or in college, but whenever it is it's usually by or before the age of 21. Whenever they find something that does it for them most people just kinda go with that and stop looking. So I'm not gonna argue that point, but that's why we call them 'casuals' because they stop searching and just go with whatever they've found, whatever's easiest. I'm just saying it doesn't have to be that way. We all start forming our musical tastes in our childhood school days as most of us seem to discover and become interested in listening to music beyond simple nursery rhymes and commercial jingles sometime between the ages of 8 and 12. But for many of us with a modicum of intelligence and curiosity that desire to explore new music never stops, and some of our tastes can be a continally changing and evolving thing.
I knew from a fairly young age (12 - 14) that for me: heavier = better, distorted guitars are better than clean, amp feedback and fuzz pedals were cool, raw & dirty appealed to me much more than slick, polished and professional, and when in doubt, turn everything up to 11. But beyond those basic fundamental principles, I feel like I really formed most of what I think of as my core musical sensibilities in my mid to late 40's. (mid to late oughts) And I'm sure I'm not done yet, as music continues to change and evolve and I expose myself to new things (even if they're old things) my tastes will change and evolve as well. At least they always have in the past, my musical taste has never stayed constant for very long, I think this goat metal rennaisance we're in the midst of right now for the last decade or so is the longest I've ever stayed locked onto one thing. Could be my true calling, could be a passing phase, only time will tell. 
Like you, I guess you could say I walled myself off from a lot of music when I was younger, but I don't think of it that way. Walled-off isn't the right term because that inane mainstream bullshit music was everywhere, the phrase "all over the airwaves" meant a lot more back then because for us kids in the 70's radio was where we looked for new music. And the rock mags at the supermarket. There was nowhere to escape from shitty mainstream music unless you locked yourself away in a room somewhere with no electronics and consciously went out of your way to avoid it. So I didn't wall myself off from it as much as I just rejected it and learned to detest it and by my later teens I actively campaigned against it. I was only too happy to regale anyone who'd listen back in my teens and 20's all about how vehemently I despised mainstream garbage music and how all the good music was a well kept secret you had to hunt for. 
Most of that 70's crap you mentioned in your post from Elvis Costello to Devo to the Who to the post Jones 70's Stones to the Doors to Roxy Music...I despised it all then and I still despise it all now. Some of the other stuff you mentioned came later for me after I was already out of school and working, like 1980's Back in Black for instance, or RHCP & NIN which came much later still. But for the record I don't lump 70's and early 80's AC/DC in with the Who and the Kinks and CCR and the Doors and Fleetwood Mac, they were part of a newer generation of harder rocking bands and they hadn't become radio darlings yet back then, at least not in NY anyway.
My opinion has always been that almost all of that "classic rock" crap from the 60's & 70's was rubbish foisted upon me by the record industry suits. With a few notable exceptions it got listened to simply because that's just what they pushed on us consumers on the radio back then (and their rock playlists haven't changed in nearly 50 years!!) and as a 70's kid with no money I had precious few options for methods to explore any alternatives to mainstream music. If it hadn't been for finding Zeppelin and Sabbath and later the Ramones (none of these came to me by way of the radio) I don't know how I would have survived my 1970's teen years. But unlike many folks my age I've never felt like I had one foot rooted in the classic rock I grew up with, nor did I ever feel like it was my generation's music, even though it does seem as if the overwhelming majority of my 2nd wave of baby boomer peers really do genuinely dig that stuff. Yes, even as a kid I knew classic rock was just some bullshit I'd have to tolerate in my youth just until something better came along. And I always had faith that something better was on the way. I was probably born to early.
I graduated hs in June of '79, so as far as the post-punk movement specifically, I believe that gained real momentum mostly in the early 80's after I was already out of school. (but you were still in) My big problem with that whole scene was mainly just the soft-cock effeminate male vocals put me right off. I suppose music for pussies as you put it sums up my feelings toward it pretty well. You can call me a homophobe if you like, but I don't see myself that way as I have no problem with homosexuals, this isn't a gay/straight issue at all as I see it, it's just a vocal style issue. I really don't care which vocalists might be gay and which are straight, it's absolutely none of my concern and I don't think it makes you gay to listen to post-punk or anything like that, I just don't appreciate being serenaded with that effeminate lilt you hear on so many post-punk records, regardless of anyone's actual sexual preferences. It almost seems as if the male PP voclaists are all required to sing that way to even qualify as post-punk or something. Much like you recanted the tale of that Swans dude Michael Gira who didn't appreciate having the macho knuckle-dragging male testosterone fueled metal contingent infiltrating their scene and attending Swans shows, as one of those testosterone fueled, knuckle-dragging early 80's metal dudes I in turn did not appreciate the effeminate male vocal aesthetic infiltrating the rock music I listened to.
And that sentiment went far beyond just the sub-genre of post-punk, or even 80's pop. Mainstream rock artists of the day like Elvis Costello, Joe Jackson, Squeeze, the Police, Rush, Toto, U2, Foreigner, Journey, Talking Heads, Devo....all of those very popular late 70's early 80's artists I rejected on the basis of them being nerds or having vocals that were just too effeminate for me, or both. I wanted harder they were giving us softer. You wanna call that attitude narrow-minded or walled-off or whatever that's fine, I'll accept that criticism. But I mean the way I see it I don't consciously choose what's going to appeal to me musically and what might push me away. On some level we all just like what we like and we can't always explain how or what or why that is. We all have to find our own level that pleases us. I like hard and heavy shit. The filthier the better. It is what it is, I don't feel like it's something I'll ever grow out of, and I don't feel like I should need to apologize for my tastes, nor should anyone else for theirs, not ever.
And yet I have been sincerely and consciously been trying to let my guard down and open my mind to some things finally here in my old age. Not to make ammends or whatever but purely for my own enrichment. Could be maybe some of that pussy music has some redeeming qualities and something to offer me after all. Although I admit I've only managed baby steps and for all I know this might be just about as far as I can go. Because I do still prefer my music to be heavy and sound masculine and macho and evil and violent and aggressive...as opposed to androgynous, effeminate, mellow and happy/sad, and I reckon at this point that's probably not ever going to truly change.
 
 

Beethoven - 9th Symphony 9 - Movement IV  - "Ode To Joy" - well sometimes even I listen to nonmetal!
Candlemass - Nightfall
Darkthrone - Astral Fortress
Enforcer - From Beyond
And for the metal part, yes I was in a Nordic mood!

Goth, like Punk is more about attitude and style than solely music. Dreary, morbid, romanticism. Like the literary movement of the same name. Bauhaus was very influential in establishing the sound. There's tons of stuff I could throw in here, but I get it's not your thing. 
I guess you guys a few years older were where I was when grunge came out when goth/post-punk hit your generation. I couldn't gaf about grunge back in the day. I was ass deep in Morbid Angel, Obituary, Death, Possessed... Still don't know half the bands that were just below the really popular ones.
First record I ever bought was a 45 of Hungry Like the Wolf. I guess I was about 8.
Anyway, for the sake of those not bothering to look:
Echo and the Bunnymen - The Killing Noon
Siouxsie and the Banshees - Cities in Dust
 
I never listened to Nirvana until recently when I discovered the Wipers and figured out Cobain just stole all of Greg Sage's riffs and added some distortion. They slap as a cover band. I mean I had heard them on the radio but never listened to anything beyond that. I'm pretty liberal with my music adventurism. I've heard pretty much everything. Between 3 sisters growing up, a wife and daughter, and growing up in redneck hell, can't think of much that has escaped my earholes along the way.

Funny, just a few years older or younger like me and GG can make a big difference back when music was changing rapidly, then throw in regional/cultural differences potentially. Much less a decade as between you and I.
I didn't get into Nirvana until well after Nevermind. I'm still not a huge fan but I've got some of their music and definitely respect Cobain's influence. I did like Alice N Chains and Soundgarden a whole lot though.
I sure walled myself off from a lot of music. I think a lot of people form their tastes in middle school. That was 78-80 for me right before alternative became a thing nationwide. I've always felt I had one foot in the classic rock I grew up with and the other in metal and heavier alt rock later. Growing up with tons of Beatles and 60's folk can't be ignored.
And, like there was a lot of music in the ether from The Who, CCR, The DORS, Zeppelin, Sabbath, AC/DC, Skynyrd, The Stones still around in the early 80's.  Some Girls came out in 78. Back In Black was all over the airways when I was a Freshman. 
I liked the first few Costello albums and I always liked The Ramones and The Clash. When I was in high school, I recall hearing at parties- Ramones, Ziggy Stardust era Bowie, Rocky Horror Picture Show, Floyd, Violent Femmes, Devo, R.E.M., and hardcore in the background. But we also had the vestiges of psychadelia and dead heads in the hallways.
I thought punk was garbage until the grunge era. By the time R.E.M got big and alternative rock was getting mass popularity, my tastes were pretty set with AC/DC and Priest and I thought most of the 80's alternative and I guess what you're calling goth and early post punk was for pussies. I was pretty closed minded. 
When I was a Freshman in college, I went to Emerson college for a year in Boston until my Dad yanked me out due to the $14,000 out of state tuition without any real financial aid on his salary. That was 84/85. I was all over hair metal and Accept. I remember seeing local hair metal bands. Saw Twisted Sister with Dokken with this friend who was also into punk. He kept telling me that the he felt the better stuff was in punk. He thought the future was punk/HC with trends in metal. He saw it coming. 
I was pursuing mass communications as a degree and got involved with their radio station. It was mostly post punk, alternative pop and I hated it. The cool kids were all into bands like siouxsie and the banshees and Roxy Music. Of course Prince, Whitney Houston and Michael Jackson were all over the airwaves. 
But there was this one guy who had a popular weekend metal show called Nasty Habits.  He played a lot of underground stuff with a fair amount of hardcore. I started listening to Motor Head. That show hipped me to Metallica.  That's where things started to change.
Then, from 85-90 I went to James Madison University in Virginia and it was alternative non stop with most of my friends. But I never kinned to the folksy R.E.M. sound even though I've always liked actual folk and couldn't be bothered with Sonic Youth. Finally, I guess it was some Pixies and Dinosaur Jr. that opened me up a little more. And Then, Soundgarden's Loud Love.   And stuff like Red Hot Chili Peppers, the album Jane's Addiction and NIN switched things up for me.....but only a little
I'm thinking back in 90-Seasons in the Abyss, Persistence of Time, Slave to the Grind, Lights, Camera, Revolution, The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste and Cowboys From Hell got much more ear time than Blood Sugar Sex Magik and Nothing's Shocking. 

That one's gonna be very high on my year end list. Like top 3.
 
Grieve - Funeral, Finland, as will this:
 
 

^Seconded...first one didn't live up to the potential, and I forgot the new one was even coming out. Maybe they'll get it together eventually, but for now, they're another "supergroup" stereotype of more miss, than hit.
 
Chamber of Mirrors  - Shadow Kingdom
Synth driven atmospheric black metal.
 

Agree. I finally pulled it off my wishlist this weekend as I'm just not compelled to buy it.
This Morning:
Darkthrone - Astral Fortress
Secret Shame - Autonomy
Now playing - Scumstrike - Deadly Intrusions
 

Type O Negative - Dead Again