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Will

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Hey guys, this thing again.

I've been learning death growls for a little while now (on and off over a year) and was wondering what you guys think of my tone so far.

Last night I recorded myself over the Morbid Angel track Ageless Still I Am. This was done in one go, no editing apart from noise removal and a little compression se you can hear me so it's kida rough (if I decide this is for me I'll get a better mic).

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3Qig96mjFpadkEwNV92SmMzblk

 

Here's the vocal bits alone.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3Qig96mjFpacHVOZWpCTGw2eUE

 

Any criticisms and comments are appreciated.

 

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23 minutes ago, natassja7 said:

Won't let me open it for some reason..I'll keep trying ..thanks for sharing anyway :) 

Sorry about that, I accidently uploaded it as a wav so the file was too big or maybe the google drive player cant play them.

I think these might work.

With backing

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3Qig96mjFpaTWV3WDFHUk5vNXc

Without

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3Qig96mjFpaUU5HTHZmUTVBeU0

Thanks for the reply.

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Hey dude, it takes some guts to share vocal practice for critique. No disrespect intended here. Your tone sounds like it's being held back a bit by technique. You should stick with it; with some tweaking I think you can find a tone that's more effective and easier to control. It sounds like you're searching for that "guttural" sound by activating a lower part of your throat, slightly above your collarbone. In my experience, that approach takes a lot of breath, which means it's harder to hold, and harder to project with any power. I started with lower DM growls trying the same thing. I don't know if you've had any experience with higher screams, but a big step happened for me when I started approaching lows by "tuning my higher screams down" rather than coming from the bottom up. I've found that using a higher part of my throat, just behind the Adam's apple, produces a midrange growl that cuts through very well; using that as a starting place, I found the range to raise and lower that with my throat and mouth shape. It's possible to get just as deep, without using a ton of breath and running out of power quickly. I'll post some examples if I can record them soon.

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3 hours ago, FatherAlabaster said:

Hey dude, it takes some guts to share vocal practice for critique. No disrespect intended here. Your tone sounds like it's being held back a bit by technique. You should stick with it; with some tweaking I think you can find a tone that's more effective and easier to control. It sounds like you're searching for that "guttural" sound by activating a lower part of your throat, slightly above your collarbone. In my experience, that approach takes a lot of breath, which means it's harder to hold, and harder to project with any power. I started with lower DM growls trying the same thing. I don't know if you've had any experience with higher screams, but a big step happened for me when I started approaching lows by "tuning my higher screams down" rather than coming from the bottom up. I've found that using a higher part of my throat, just behind the Adam's apple, produces a midrange growl that cuts through very well; using that as a starting place, I found the range to raise and lower that with my throat and mouth shape. It's possible to get just as deep, without using a ton of breath and running out of power quickly. I'll post some examples if I can record them soon.

I appreciate the honesty. I have practically no experience with higher screams but your suggestion makes a lot of sense as I do run out of breath and power quickly, I'll start trying that approach in further practice.

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9 hours ago, FatherAlabaster said:

Hey dude, it takes some guts to share vocal practice for critique. No disrespect intended here. Your tone sounds like it's being held back a bit by technique. You should stick with it; with some tweaking I think you can find a tone that's more effective and easier to control. It sounds like you're searching for that "guttural" sound by activating a lower part of your throat, slightly above your collarbone. In my experience, that approach takes a lot of breath, which means it's harder to hold, and harder to project with any power. I started with lower DM growls trying the same thing. I don't know if you've had any experience with higher screams, but a big step happened for me when I started approaching lows by "tuning my higher screams down" rather than coming from the bottom up. I've found that using a higher part of my throat, just behind the Adam's apple, produces a midrange growl that cuts through very well; using that as a starting place, I found the range to raise and lower that with my throat and mouth shape. It's possible to get just as deep, without using a ton of breath and running out of power quickly. I'll post some examples if I can record them soon.

Goddamn, thats a lot of good advice. The best i could have done was to bitch about not using a De-esser. :D:D:D 

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3 hours ago, GrayscaleDawn said:

Goddamn, thats a lot of good advice. The best i could have done was to bitch about not using a De-esser. :D:D:D 

I was thinking about maybe silencing the sssssss and the breaths and stuff, retaking the weaker parts, etc. but I thought that I should be more "honest" with it when asking for advice.

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4 minutes ago, Will said:

I was thinking about maybe silencing the sssssss and the breaths and stuff, retaking the weaker parts, etc. but I thought that I should be more "honest" with it when asking for advice.

It´s the compressing that makes the esses go crazy, de-esser will help with that. To be honest sounded pretty good to me, haven´t a fucking clue myself when it comes to vocals apart tiny bit of understanding of the mixing. :D 

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