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Re: Who likes Death 'n' Roll? I was initially opposed to the style, but have been opening up to it a bit more recently. As with most things, I tend to prefer the older bands doing the style, like Xysma and Furbowl, but I even enjoyed Wolverine Blues the last time I heard it. Most of the time Death N Roll (and even so called Black N Roll) indicates a crust or hardcore punk infusion into death metal, or a more old school midpaced riffing style derived from Venom and Motorhead, and honestly I don't see why those things mixing with extreme metal is often degraded as a bad thing. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

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Finally someone who can simply appreciate metal for what it is 'metal'. I'm personally too into this genre however I find it a refreshing change of pace when burning out on black and death. Hell I'll even burn on thrash on occasion. I honestly feel that I listen to just about every type of metal just so I don't get tired of it in general.

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If you like Wolverine Blues, check out that Dismember album "Massive Killing Capacity". It's a little simplistic for me but still fine for putting on and cleaning the house. Grave had some kind of similar stuff later on, but I never liked their take on it that much. For black'n'roll shit, I like Khold, pretty much every album, and Satyricon's "Volcano". Also later Darkthrone like "Sardonic Wrath". One of my friends just played me a really good new black'n'roll band with a bit more melody, I will post back when I get their name from him.

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If you like Wolverine Blues, check out that Dismember album "Massive Killing Capacity". It's a little simplistic for me but still fine for putting on and cleaning the house. Grave had some kind of similar stuff later on, but I never liked their take on it that much. For black'n'roll shit, I like Khold, pretty much every album, and Satyricon's "Volcano". Also later Darkthrone like "Sardonic Wrath". One of my friends just played me a really good new black'n'roll band with a bit more melody, I will post back when I get their name from him.
I hated Massive Killing Capacity, it was the first Dismember album I bought and I returned it that same day. It might fare a bit better now though, as I'm more open to the style than I was then. For some awesome black n roll, check out Craft's last couple of albums. Satyricon and Khold are good too, but Craft takes it to another level. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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I can turn on Massive Killing Capacity in the background, like I said... but I'm really not too into anything of that particular bent, I'm only suggesting it for someone who really digs the death'n'roll sound. My love for the early Swedish sound is given to "You''ll Never See" and "Karelian Isthmus" (Karelian Isthmus is still one of my all time favorite albums) - the rock influence in later stuff turned me off for years. I'll look for Craft, I know some of my friends listen to them but I've never gotten around to it.

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I can turn on Massive Killing Capacity in the background' date=' like I said... but I'm really not too into anything of that particular bent, I'm only suggesting it for someone who really digs the death'n'roll sound. My love for the early Swedish sound is given to "You''ll Never See" and "Karelian Isthmus" (Karelian Isthmus is still one of my all time favorite albums) - the rock influence in later stuff turned me off for years. I'll look for Craft, I know some of my friends listen to them but I've never gotten around to it.[/quote'] I prefer death metal to death n roll as well, both of the albums you mentioned are good examples of Swedeath and Finndeath respectively. Are you big on the other early bands of those scenes? For Swedeath, my favorites are early At the Gates, Dismember's first two albums, Gorement, Utumno, Uncanny, Necrophobic's The Nocturnal Silence, etc..., and for Finndeath, I prefer Demilich, Sentenced's North From Here (I think we discussed that one before), Purtenance, Convulse, Xysma, etc.. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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Actually I only know half of those! Awesome. I'll look that stuff up. When I was growing up in Raleigh, we were pretty much at the mercy of the record stores or what we could tape(!!!) off the radio(!!!). As far as ATG, I'm a big fan of "Red In The Sky" and "Terminal Spirit Disease". I also liked "Gardens Of Grief" and the old Grotesque stuff. "With Fear I Kiss The Burning Darkness" was boring to me and its title is too long. I remember liking some old Tiamat, but feeling like it dragged a bit. I liked older Dismember, but I haven't heard it in a very long time, and also of course Entombed's "Left Hand Path". I became aware of Xysma when everyone was jumping on the "psychedelic rock death metal" bandwagon, by which time I'd already moved on, first to more melodic stuff like Dark Tranquillity (I still listen to "The Gallery" though everything from "Projector" onwards was just fucking awful), then Opeth and black metal. The only "psychedelic rock" albums that held any appeal for me were "Elegy" and "Tuonela" from Amorphis - I can't get into their later material - and of course some of Enslaved's work. Although they can't be brought into the death'n'roll discussion, they have a strong "rock" influence that sets them apart from a lot of other bands from the region IMO. I'm psyched to find some of that other stuff, thank you for the recommendations.

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Wow, listening to Demilich now. This reminds me of old Immolation. Weird, down-tuned, and kind of groove-oriented in the same way. Vocal burps are hilarious. I like it. Edit - now I like it even more. There are some really good riffs here. Awesome.
Demilich is sick, bizarre, and wonderful, one of the best death metal bands ever. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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To me it's cheesy death metal. I have some newer albums of Gorefest for example but I never listen to them.
It doesn't have to be, it just means the structures and some riffs are usually more stripped down and rock based. It doesn't always work well, but some bands, like Xysma, Furbowl, Pungent Stench, and others pulled it off quite well. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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I rather listen to heavy metal and rock than death n roll actually.
Or even standard death metal, I'm with you there. The fusion doesn't often work, and even when it does, it's usually not mindblowing, but some of it is still good. I would encourage you to at least check out Xysma, they started as one of the best Carcass worshiping goregrind bands ever with their demo, but added more death metal and punk rock elements over time. It's pretty sick sounding stuff, but I wouldn't go past First and Magical, they became a sort of pop-punk/garage rock band after that. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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Maybe I will. Recently received a lot of recommendations so I'm quite busy now.
I know the feeling. I'm on 3 metal forums, so I've never been able to keep up with all of the recommendations I've received throughout the years. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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