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...and this thread has officially been hijacked to planet old school death metal by the Nevertanezrans. *Imperial March starts playing* BRAAM BRAAM BRAAM BROM BRAH BROM BROM BRAH BROOOM... Anyhow, the interesting thing I notice is that no one's actually said that Leaves' Eyes is bad. I've just seen recommendations for Theatre Of Tragedy and Atrocity. I should say that 'Meredead' seems a bit low-energy compared to their other stuff. Liv Kristine seems less enthusiastic in particular. As for Theatre Of Tragedy (may as well keep on them, they are still gothic metal) I do like their first self-titled and Liv Kristine's voice sounds great, but it sounds like she's mumbling the words sometimes. Weird, because she usually has very good enunciation.[/quote.] Imperial March Ha! Ha! :lol: Re. Meredead. Having listened to all the albums a lot (including the EP Legend Land) I have to agree that it is their weakest album, and I think that they tried to be more folky in it and less sort of BLAH! VIKINGS!!! Having said that, I do love the album, especially Tell Tale Eyes - I just love that Baroque Guitar! :D As to Liv's voice, well, I don't want to be horrible as I love the sound of her voice and her lyrics and like the way she spent so long learning Old English for Meredead, but she does seem to have a bit of a struggle controlling it. I got a DVD of live perfomances with my special edition Meredead and she had a nasty habit of missing notes, which was a bit frustrating. In this light the mumbling makes sense. Still, I love the way the albums all sound so different to one another, but then I wonder if everbody thinks the same about their favourite band :lol: !
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Hey' date=' Leaves Eyes is good but Atrocity and Theatre of Tragedy are a LOT better. That's all we're saying. :D[/quote'] Yep. I don't have any Leaves Eyes albums, but I used to sell a ton of them at Tease N Keys, they were pretty popular with the crowd there. It was playing on the stereo in the store frequently, and I almost bought one of their albums once, but it didn't do quite enough for me to justify a purchase. I prefer my gothic metal to be a bit heavier, like Tristania.
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Actuallly, that might be just what I'm looking for. I'm tired of gothic metal where the guitars are too simple, so I might start liking these bands I used to avoid. Again, Leaves Eyes is heavy enough, but groups like Delain, Edenbridge and Epica really appeal to me now. One thing I don't like about Njord is Krull's death growls, but thankfully they're so few and far between that it's not a chore to put up with them.
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You like Delain and Epica too!!! Oh you are supercool Iceni :mrgreen: !!! I can't believe it, I have been so long with people just gurning at me if I mention bands like this and now I discover that there are people out there who have a clue about all this stuff. Thank you very, very much!!! :D P.S. Are you pumped about the new Epica album out on the 12th, Requiem For The Indifferent? I know I am :) ! P.P.S. As you say you like them, I should definately check out Edenbridge - what are they like?
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You like Delain and Epica too!!! Oh you are supercool Iceni :mrgreen: !!! I can't believe it, I have been so long with people just gurning at me if I mention bands like this and now I discover that there are people out there who have a clue about all this stuff. Thank you very, very much!!! :D P.S. Are you pumped about the new Epica album out on the 12th, Requiem For The Indifferent? I know I am :) ! P.P.S. As you say you like them, I should definately check out Edenbridge - what are they like?
I've got the first Delain album and it's not too bad. They're just generic female fronted Symphonic Metal. Epica is highly overrated. I've got a good friend who LOVES them more than anything. It's annoying. Edenbridge is slightly less generic Prog/Power with a heavily accented female singer. Not bad but mostly fluff. If you like bands like the aforementioned you'd to invest in After Forever. Their singer is the best female vocalist of all IMO. Xandria is great too. Check out the following: After Forever - Remagine After Forever - After Forever Draconian - Where Lovers Mourn Draconian - The Burning Halo Edenbridge - Sunrise in Eden Edenbridge - Shine Lacuna Coil - Unleashed Memories Lacuna Coil - Comalise Midnattsol - Where Twilight Dwells Midnattsol - The Metamorphosis Melody Orphanage - Inside Orphanage - Driven Theatre Of Tragedy - Theatre Of Tragedy Theatre Of Tragedy - Velvet Darkness They Fear Theatre Of Tragedy - Aegis Theatre Of Tragedy - Storm Theatre Of Tragedy - Forever is the World The Gathering - Mandylion The Gathering - Nighttime Birds Within Temptation - Enter Within Temptation - The Silent Force Xandria - Kill The Sun Xandria - Ravenheart Obviously some of these are male/female vocalists with one being more dominant, and I'm sure you're aware of some of these bands but the aforementioned are what I believe to be good examples of (mostly) female fronted bands.
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Re: Leaves' Eyes Er...this isn't the Gothic Metal thread... Then again, I suppose if the thread starter is OK with it I can go ahead and ramble. Still, I'll recommend Amberian Dawn since they're a folk/power metal band with operatic female vocals. Anyhow, I'm skeptical about Delain's new album and Epica's too, I worry that they're getting too simple. Both of these bands are gothic groups with good guitars, so if they lose that they risk becoming very generic. NTNR - Interesting to see Midnattsol on your list, I wondered what you'd think of them. I do listen to some of After Forever, perhaps I'll give their older stuff a go but I've never thought much of Floor Jansen, honestly. I seem to recall Xandria not drawing me too much but again, perhaps I need to listen with fresh ears. I've got to disagree with you on Edenbridge. Sure, they do have some overly simple material but it doesn't detract from their appeal in my opinion. Plus the prog edge they have certainly helps. At times they actually remind me of Threshold. I would definitely listen to Delain's second album. They do retain the general elements of gothic metal but on their second album Nightwish's Marco Hietala makes guest appearances on one or two songs. Do with that information what you will. In addition, the guitar work is nice, especially on 'Go Away'. Overall it has a more aggressive tone than several gothic bands, although perhaps compared to your collection it might seem mild. Epica has become one of my favorite gothic groups recently because they have a good range of talent. Their riffs are better than most gothic metal bands I've heard, their lead singer can do both operatic and more conventional vocals without sounding poppy or ridiculously flamboyant, they do incorporate harsh vocals, the classical element in their songs is more noticeable than the strings most gothic bands use, but at the same time they can do something more simple and enjoyable. So, maybe I sound like this fanboy you're talking about, but these are my reasons for liking them so much. And unless HB writes a monumental comeback of an album, Epica might become my favorite gothic metal band...

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Er...this isn't the Gothic Metal thread... Then again, I suppose if the thread starter is OK with it I can go ahead and ramble. Still, I'll recommend Amberian Dawn since they're a folk/power metal band with operatic female vocals. Anyhow, I'm skeptical about Delain's new album and Epica's too, I worry that they're getting too simple. Both of these bands are gothic groups with good guitars, so if they lose that they risk becoming very generic. NTNR - Interesting to see Midnattsol on your list, I wondered what you'd think of them. I do listen to some of After Forever, perhaps I'll give their older stuff a go but I've never thought much of Floor Jansen, honestly. I seem to recall Xandria not drawing me too much but again, perhaps I need to listen with fresh ears. I've got to disagree with you on Edenbridge. Sure, they do have some overly simple material but it doesn't detract from their appeal in my opinion. Plus the prog edge they have certainly helps. At times they actually remind me of Threshold.
The following bands are the only "Gothic" bands listed: Midnattsol Xandria Theatre of Tragedy (the last three albums listed) Lacuna Coil (Comalise) Midnattsol isn't bad. I think I actually prefer them to Leaves Eyes. My wife is big fan of both which is cool. I do think it's lame that Liv Cristine's little sister got popular because of her however. Liv has a classically trained voice where as her sister doesn't. Plus I've got a Napalm Records DVD where Carmen is literally 3-5 notes behind the rest of the band at any given time. Musically their tight but vocally...no. In a live setting anyway. Xandria was a surprise to me. I didn't think I was going to like them and I do. Again my wife owns their material in our house but enjoy it when she plays it.
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Midnattsol isn't bad. I think I actually prefer them to Leaves Eyes. My wife is big fan of both which is cool. I do think it's lame that Liv Cristine's little sister got popular because of her however. Liv has a classically trained voice where as her sister doesn't. Plus I've got a Napalm Records DVD where Carmen is literally 3-5 notes behind the rest of the band at any given time. Musically their tight but vocally...no. In a live setting anyway. Xandria was a surprise to me. I didn't think I was going to like them and I do. Again my wife owns their material in our house but enjoy it when she plays it.
My word, you are so very blessed to have someone that you routinely see that enjoys the same music as you... I've listened through a bit of After Forever's last album and I'm quite impressed. :) I will be getting some their material when I have the means. On to Xandria.
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I wasn’t really into Leaves Eyes until I heard the last 2 albums. The last 2 albums were brilliant, i have seen them live twice since then. They are pretty awesome live. Liv & Alex were also my most random band meeting when I met them at Tottenum Court Road Tube Station in London. “Velvet Heart” and “Maid of Lorraine” are excellent songs.

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