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I'll just assume everyone on this forum feels that Breiviks actions were wrong. If you don't know what I'm talking about, Anders Breivik is the guy who slaughtered 69 people in a summer camp in Norway last year. Later this month, his sentence is expected to be announced. The prosecution wants to have him declared insane and sent to a mental institution. The defence wants him declared sane and sent to jail. Breivik himself says he is sane, but innocent. (go figure that one out.) What do you think? Can a sane person commit such acts or would declaring him insane - and thus not responsible for his actions - be an insult to the memories of all the people he killed?

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Personally I hope he is found to be insane and sent to the worst maximum security psychiatric prison/ hospital Norway has to offer for the rest of his life.
I also think its the best way. But we have already seen that he is allowed to use pc to communcate with his belivers, and the standard in Norwegian prisons is high...
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Re: Breiviks sentence I agree with murph, I definitely buy the idea that he's perfectly sane. However, I see metalweb brought up the whole communications thing. That would be a problem if he wasn't a lone wolf - gang leaders commonly run their organizations from prison - but I don't see that he heads up what can rightfully be called an insurgent group or gang. Nonetheless, the death penalty would ensure that he can't do any more damage and it is well justified for such a crime. I worry more about people trying to 'do something' in the wake of this tragedy - preventative measures that would destroy the democracy the victims were learning about when they got shot.

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Re: Breiviks sentence my issue with the death penalty is that it is actually a soft punishment, it sees the monster who carries out these heinous crimes peacefully and painlessly executed so he or she no longer has to deal with any guilt over what they have done. In my opinion the actual manner of execution must be one as atrocious as the crimes perpatrated by the individual sentenced to it. If this is not the case then spending the rest of ones life in prison is a far more suitable punishment

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