Hard Rock Elitist.....

[Zysreich]

I'm so fucking sick of this Hard Rock Elitist demonizing almost all Metal bands, subgenres and artists through his/her blog called https://www.powermetalsucks.com/, worst example of a purist ever. So some pathetic loser from Netherlands made the idiotic blog... He/she have a stereotypical boomer mindset that 'Metal' is evil oh that 'Metal causes negativity' he/she definitely has never heard of catharsis and definitely has a 'the world is all sunshine and rainbow mindset'. Powermetalsucks.com's biased statement by the way are full of logical fallacies such as straw-man fallacy, moralistic fallacy, and ad hominems.

[EveningStar]

And you have just proven him right 🤣🤣 🤣🤣

Btw, he is just imitating the style of "metal" purists, like the members of the "metal" archives and similar sites.

And he is making fun of the fact that almost all hard rock fans (including traditional metal, like NWOBHM) are usually hard working people that listen to music to relieve themselves from everyday stress.

 

On the other hand, most of the "metal" fans are either teenagers or 30-year old university students that never worked a day in their entire lives.

[GoatmasterGeneral]

I, a card carrying metal purist, just visited the site and thought it was fucking hilarious. Obviously completely tongue in cheek, no reason for anyone to get butt hurt over it. 

2 hours ago, EveningStar said:

most of the "metal" fans are either teenagers or 30-year old university students that never worked a day in their entire lives.

Now that's funny. Most of the extreme metal fans and purists/elitists I know are 40 - 50 - 60 year old dudes all of whom work or have worked hard their entire lives. I think most teengers and your typical 30 year old university students are listening to some other kind of music entirely.

[EveningStar]

5 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Now that's funny. Most of the extreme metal fans and purists/elitists I know are 40 - 50 - 60 year old dudes all of whom work or have worked hard their entire lives. I think most teengers and your typical 30 year old university students are listening to some other kind of music entirely.

I think You being from the USA explains a lot, since there are some cultural differences. Both the guy from powermetalsucks and me are from Europe (although he is from western Europe, me from southern). 

A LOT of people listen to extreme stuff (although it is sometimes really not metal, hence "metal" with the quotation marks, like some grindcore stuff or predominantly hardcore influenced death/"metal"-core) just to look "edgy" or "different". Those are guys who would refer to anything less aggressive than Slayer as "hard rock" and to most traditional metal as "(classic) rock". Also, their average age is around 16. I am NOT writing this to be dismissive of extreme metal fans, it is just that almost any more extreme metal concert (with notable exception of black metal) would have above average number of these people.

Of course, there are similar idiots in my generation. There are quite a few guys I known (either personally or online) that pejoratively refer to anything made before NWOBHM as "dated 70s stuff", completely oblivious to the fact that most of the younger people would consider both Iron Maiden or Motley Crue or Venom as "dated" as 70s Sabbath or Heep. Powermetalsucks guy even touches upon these in few of his articles (although not as prominently). 

 

5 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

I, a card carrying metal purist, just visited the site and thought it was fucking hilarious. Obviously completely tongue in cheek, no reason for anyone to get butt hurt over it. 

I agree. His tone is actually quite close to "elitists" on sites such as Metal Archives (and previously Spirit of Metal or even metal-related RateYourMusic topics), who love to use words such as "mellow", "commercial", "shallow", "soft".

They are even deliberately using wrong (softer) subgenres (I am NOT the one who first discovered this, but a guy who makes some great HM/HR/AOR-related lists on RYM pointed it out to me a couple of months ago): "AOR"/"melodic rock"/"classic rock"/"rock" for "hard rock" (sometimes even borderline metal), "glam rock" for "hair/sleaze/glam metal" (the have in rules "Glam rock (ex: Poison, Ratt, Whitesnake, Steel Panther)" apparently unaware that "glam rock" has entirely different meaning), or even "pop" for some bands ("Pop with metal elements (ex: Amaranthe, Babymetal, Necronomidol)").

He parodies it in using the term "power metal" for pretty much anything. 

[GoatmasterGeneral]

Well there you go, I'm not only an American, but I'm a black metal guy too, your notable exception. And I'm an elitist to boot, so you've just described me. I use words like commercial and soft to describe music I don't approve of all the time. I like some grindcore and hardcore mixed in with my death metal as well, but not to be edgy or different since I'm not 16, flip those digits around, I'm 61. But when I was 16 I could have totally seen myself doing the anything less aggressive than Slayer is hard rock bit with my friends. Except that of course neither Slayer nor heavy metal had even been invented yet when I was 16. Regardless, just like the 16 year olds I too find Dio, Crue, Priest and Maiden just as dated and semi-irrelevant (if not moreso) as 70's rock like Zeppelin, AC/DC, Fogaht, Heep and Queen. Yet somehow Motörhead and Sabbath always manage to keep themselves in the rotation. I'm an enigma. 

[Thatguy]

5 hours ago, EveningStar said:

Also, their average age is around 16. I am NOT writing this to be dismissive of extreme metal fans, it is just that almost any more extreme metal concert (with notable exception of black metal) would have above average number of these people.

Not in the Great South Land. Adult music for adults.

[GoatmasterGeneral]

24 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Not in the Great South Land. Adult music for adults.

I guess it's different in Europe. They must have some portion of teenage kids over there who are into metal. You would be hard pressed to find a 16 year old extreme metalhead in the States. I'm sure they exist but it's such a miniscule percentage of the teen population. Seems to be mostly older dudes over 35 or 40 who are indulging in the black and death metal over here as far as I can tell. There are some 20-somethings too because I've see them at shows, but they're in the minority I think. Because older metalheads are probably more likely not to bother going to the trouble of going out to see bands play live.