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Just one question then regarding "incendiary shit" - the future habitability of this planet is about as incendiary as you can get especially as one chunk of the planet believes it's a grim life or death situation and the other half believes it's all fine and business as usual. Or homelessness or decaying education systems or domestic violence or lack of access to healthcare or whatever other decay and rot is setting in? How are these not incendiary issues? How do you talk about this kind of the stuff in a non-incendiary way? I guess I need to learn to ignore it. Stop writing letters to politicians, stop signing petitions, stop posting here and anywhere else. As Nevermore sang in This Godless Endeavour: Consume, Conform. This are only real values of our western society, including this forum. Everything else is just pointless virtue signalling. You can ban me now.

Hang on, the thread's initial OP specifically mentioned politics, music, wars, whatever (see below quote from way back in 2011). You can't have a "hey talk about whatever the fuck you like" thread and then ban shit you don't like or don't agree with. After all it's a much wider world of opinions than MSM "We don't likez Trumpz so that's cool to talk about but anything else topical is not allowed." You might want to close this thread down then and state somewhere that no politics or sociology or economics or crime or environmental discussion is allowed. Then it's explicitly verboten and I can stick to talking about 1980s thrash and death. Note I never broke the rules as specified here

An interesting graph that shows the only time emissions stop and fall is during catastrophes and economic collapses. The only problem is none of them permanently reduce emissions which indicates something more radical and permanent is required. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-05/global-carbon-project-finds-world-emissions-at-record-highs/103189436 Australia's class rooms some of the most disruptive in the OECD. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-01/australian-kids-disruptive-classroom-school-behaviour-report/103176212 No surprises That's because: A. People are entitled B. They raise their kids without discipline and ensure they're entitled. C. People spoil their kids. D. Parents look to blame everyone else for their worthless little spawn's shitty behaviour - it's the school's fault or they're autistic or they've got ADHD or they have both ADHD and autistic. I am horrified at the behaviour of other people's kids both at school but also in private sphere. Parents no (I have tried to raise my daughter in a more disciplined fashion but my wife insists on giving in. My daughter at least knows how to behave in public but she is rude as fuck at home). Aussie prisons are cushy My wife visited the main prison as part of her work. She was horrified at how comfortable and pleasant the place was. Given how much prisoners complain, she was expecting the kind of brutality you see on TV. Not at all, pleasant gardens worked by the prisoners, they each got their own personal cell (that they could lock) with all the personal accoutrements of life and in remand they are allowed their own phones. Such nice things for society's worst humans who have often committed heinous crimes against others including murder, rape etc etc. We need a more authoritarian and draconian approach to society. Discipline needs to be reintroduced at the threat of the lash, the gun and the noose. Maybe then we can do something about the environment as consumer capitalism is destroyed.

Infest - Onward to Destroy Excellent death/thrash metal from 2009. And other more popular albums I've been listening to today: Nevermore - The Politics of Ecstasy Paradise Lost - Draconian Times

Absolutely love your lists!

Mekong Delta - Dances of Death Pestilence - Testimony of the Ancients

Death - Symbolic Destruction - Infernal Overkill Dying Fetus - Make Them Beg For Death Sodom - In The Sign Of Evil

Dimmu Borgir - In Sorte Diaboli Suffocation - Hymns From The Apocrypha

One sad truth is most successful people are usually nasty pricks. Some studies have even shown high level executives and serial killers share many similar psychological traits. And as much as we pretend we're more evolved, our social systems are still based on Darwin's Laws of Evolution ie the ambitious tend to be willing to tread on the weak to reach their ambitions. Oh I totally agree. But the UAE is not just selling the oil, they're making a mockery of what is left of the global environmental movement.

Anthrax - Persistence Of Time Cave In - Heavy Pendulum Iron Maiden - Killers Mastodon - Once More 'Round The Sun Motorhead - Bomber

What better place to host next global climate talks than a major fossil fuel exporter (UAE)? And what better place to make deals for further fossil fuel sales than a climate change conference? https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/nov/27/cop28-host-uae-planned-promote-oil-deals-climate-talks Global action on climate change is completely dead.

Killing Joke guitarist Geordie Walker passed away aged 64 from a stroke. Not metal per se but he had a massive influence on metal. RIP https://blabbermouth.net/news/killing-joke-guitarist-kevin-geordie-walker-dead-at-64

Yep the UN is a waste of time. UNESCO recently declared Hobart a City of Literature which is completely fucking absurd because 50% of the Tasmanian population including Hobart is functionally illiterate. Why did they get it? Promoting local indigenous languages (which incidentally are modern constructions as those languages are long dead and haven't been spoken in 150+ years). In itself this is stupidity - half the population can't read a shopping list or a power bill, but the government wastes money on creating new indigenous languages. https://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/tasmanian-adults-disproportionately-affected-by-illiteracy/news-story/687c3b7483c49f8243c323b6f4e6bcc5

Let's party like it's 1993-95! Bolt Thrower - Those Once Loyal (Ok 2005) Comecon - Converging Conspiracies Dark Tranquillity - The Gallery Eucharist - Velvet Creation Fear Factory - Demanufacture

Bizarrely not much metallic stuff being played! Alice In Chains - Dirt Faith No More - King For A Day....Fool For A Lifetime Minor Threat - Complete Discography The Ramones - Hey Ho Let's Go: Greatest Hits

Persian Risk - Rise Up. Ancient NWOBHM band. Quite decent if you are into old school 1980s heavy metal.

Edge of Sanity - Purgatory Afterglow Ah crap!

At The Gates - Terminal Spirit Disease Nifelheim - Devil's Force

Totally agree. Every single interview I've read with every single early thrash metal and many early death metal pioneers shows they had as much appreciation for punk/hardcore as they did for metal.

I get to see these guys as they are supporting Iron Maiden next year. Not a fan of their music (save one song) but am curious to see how they go live. Sadistic Intent - Resurrection of the Ancient Black Earth Superb mid 1990s death metal.

Cavalera - Morbid Visions

Even Judas Priest songs like the Ripper and Rapid Fire as well as early Iron Maiden contributed to extreme metal. I would say Venom is the band is starts extreme metal. Welcome To Hell literally made everything else sound soft except the hardcore punk guys. Agreed. Sex Pistols would have played a massive role here too. Basically IMO whole of origin of extreme music comes down to 2 bands: Black Sabbath and Sex Pistols.

Frozen Soul - Glacial Domination One of the many good DM albums out this year. Dementor - The Church Dies DM circa 1994. Very enjoyable despite being completely unoriginal.

My work's been more intense so not listening to as much music plus weekends have generally been packed. Leaves precious little time for music. I haven't even done other things I like such as Playstation and painting toy soldiers as much.

How dare Decibel release an album before end of 2023. Same. I've been too preoccupied with life to listen to a lot of music and too poor to buy new albums. Having said that I think it's been a good year for death metal - Asinhell, Obituary, Vomitory, Autopsy, Incantation, even new Cannibal Corpse. I've only heard about 7 of those on the Decibel list.