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GG top 200 most played bands countdown according to lastFM 22. Morrigan - Enter the Sea of Flames, Bathory-inspired celtic pagan black metal from Germany. I've posted their third album Celts numerous times on the board so thought I'd switch it up and pick a different one for a change. Their first 5 are all absolutely mandatory. This is another case like Father Befouled where I probably listen to the disciples more than their master. Essentially straight up Bathory worship but they decided to mix the early black metal stuff together with the later viking stuff and it fucking works beautifully for me, I fucking love these guys. They're like my Iron Maiden. 21. Azaghal - Omega, no-frills no compromise brutal hard hitting black metal from Finland. (672) I think this was my first Azaghal album from 2008 when I was just starting to delve deeper into black metal beyond just the basic bands everyone likes to reco to you first. And these fuckers (along with Behexen) were instrumental in my coming to understand that Finland would be the epicenter of the kind of riffy abrasive yet melodic black metal I like the most. They also showed me how much cooler black metal sounds with some low end in the mix which means they're also partially responsible for my generally preferring post 2000 black metal over the 90's stuff. Even now in my extreme elderliness this is one of those bands that makes me want to get up and fucking destroy shit. If this band doesn't immediately turn you into a fan of Finnish black metal right on the spot and make you start sprouting little nubs of goat horns out of your forehead then nothing will, just fuggeddaboudit and go listen to some nice emo nu-metal or Def Leffard or Asking Alexandria or In Sync or some shit. Maybe some lovely relaxing post-metal llike Fen or Deafheaven or whatever would be more your speed.

GG top 200 most played bands countdown according to lastFM 24. Father Befouled - Desolate Gods, Atlanta Georgia (666) These are my two favorite established American death metal bands. I always have some current favorite releases during the year by newer bands but these are the two I always go back to. Some say FB were just a clone of Incantation, but at this point they've gotten so good at it I often wonder if maybe they've out Incantationed Incantation. 23. Incantation - Diabolical Conquest, NJ/OH/PA these dudes have moved around a lot. (666) Definitely a proponent of the Incantation school of dark murky evil stench of death metal. The "evil" thing is just so much more appealing to me than the rapid fire machine gun style a lof of the Deicide and Hate Eternal clones have gone with.

Go to sleep for a few hours, clean up the house a little bit, make a few calls and wouldn't you know the Cum Blaster has finished shooting his bloody load, he's all done now and having a smoko. And here I am still at #25/26 after having such a big lead a few days ago. But that'll happen when the other dude switches to doing 5 at a clip and I'm still posting doubles. But it is what it is. I'll finish eventually, don't know if I can do all 13 remaining pairs today but should be able to wrap it all up at least by tomorrow and then Doc will just have to find something else to complain about. GG top 200 most played bands countdown according to lastFM 26. Integrity - Those Who Fear Tomorrow, Cleveland Ohio. Call it metalcore, call it hardcore, call it crust, call it metal, I don't care what you call it but these dudes are an important band for punk loving metalheads, they give you the best of both worlds. 25. Decayed - The Black Metal Flame, Portugal (655) It can be hard to know where to draw the line between black and black/thrash but who cares, this is fucking awesome. Records like this make me wonder what Venom might have sounded like had they actully been good and known how to play.

Never heard of Amyl or her Sniffers so I had to dial them up. I generally like punk rock and I think this would be ok except in this case her Aussie accent kind of ruins it for me. Which is not to say I'm anti-Aussie or anything, I don't mind Aussie accents in general, I just don't like hers. I'm sure she wouldn't like my NY accent either. Actuallly I watched a live video and it's not just her accent, I just don't like her. Her voice, her vocal delivery and the jerky way she moves, not feeling it. I'll just stick with the Psychos for my Aussie punk fix. Hopefully they won't scream about fucking me since your mom won't. And trust me no one wants to see those videos, not even you. You should probably burn them.

Yeah Cannibal is another one, too technical, too many notes for me. So I understand that one. But Morbid Angel and Deicide are on paper at least two bands that I'd probably be expected to like. Deicide in particular has been popping up a lot of different places lately and it just seems to be a given that everyone loves them, but I don't, I can't stand them. And it's not like anyone is shaming me for not liking them or anything, but when I notice 90% of people who I see as essentially dudes with taste like me and they all dig the same band and I'm the odd man out, after awhile it does make me wonder what's the problem I have with that band that no one else seems to be having. But I guess if there's one thing I have learned tonight it's that other people don't question things as much as I do, they're much more willing to just accept things while I always need to know why.

I think to a certain extent I understood Maiden's success and why people wanted that product in the 80's & 90's when they were still somewhat relevant, even though I wasn't a huge fan myself. But I don't understand this massive legendary stature they've attained in the entertainment world all these decades later in their golden years when it seems they're maybe even bigger now than they were back when they were good and not so old. I could say the same thing about the Stones, they fucking suck but why are they so damn big now that they're in their 80's or 90's? Why does the idea that they'll all be dead soon make them more appealing to people? Or Aerosmith, a perfect example of a band who was once good and then went to shit yet I think they're more insanely popular now in their 70's than they ever were back when they were good. I suppose what I'm really questioning is this whole concept of band loyalty spanning decades and transcending generations. Because I don't have this band loyalty gene instilled in me. Why won't people just learn to let shit go? When a band I dig releases a bad album or two that's all it takes and I will drop them in a heartbeat. And I mean dead to me like they never existed. I don't understand why liking a particular band means I should have to be locked in to liking them forever. That to me would be similar to liking a car so never buying a new one and just continuing to drive the same one for the next 50 years and two million miles even past the point where it's falling apart and just drive it right into the ground. If it were still running good then I could see it, yeah ok sure, keep it. But if it's falling apart and rusted through then it's ok to get a newer one. I personally see Maiden as having rusted out and fallen apart years ago so I'd expect most people to have moved on to other bands which are in better shape. But that doesn't appear to be the case. But nowadays it's like "My dad loves Maiden and so now I love them too!" For example I have a buddy who worships Rush. I hate them of course but he loves them. Until Neil died he used to take his kids to Rush concerts with him every year and now they're like 17 and 21 and they dig Rush too just like dad. It's like a religion or a sports team affiliation that just gets handed down to the next generation and no one questions it, and to me that's nuts. Because when we were kids we were expected to hate our parents' music and they were expected to hate ours even more. What happened with that?

Man, it's almost like everyone (the real metalheads) seems to love Deicide except me. But they just don't do anything at all for me. Morbid Angel either, I have absolutely no use for either one of them. Can't imagine what it is I could be missing, I do listen to lots of death metal, just don't happen to care for those two well loved bands. It just so happens that I have three American death metal bands left on my list as well. Or technically 2 American bands and one Mexican band who has been based in the US (Chicago) for 30 years since before their first full length album came out, so I count them as Americans. The 3 bands are sitting at numbers 23, 24 and 6. So being that it's 3:40 am already here, I might not get to them tonight as I'm only currently up to numbers 27 & 28. And here they are. GG top 200 most played bands countdown according to lastFM 28. Extreme Noise Terror - Being and Nothing, UK death/crust/grind (648) the whole album was not avaiable on YT in a single video at this time, so I just posted the title track. Wasn't about to change albums, this is the one. 27. Extinction of Mankind - The Nightmare Seconds... UK (652) phenomenal album, phenomenal band. But so many metalheads are inherently resistant to anything punk so they don't know it.

I don't read the blogs or track goings on in the mainstream metal world like you do, but no one's disputing their exalted larger than life status. I can accept that it's just the way it is. But I was just questioning why them of all bands. Have you never seen something that didn't quite add up to you and just wondered why them? No, one doesn't neccessarily need to understand to accept it, but did you ever just want to understand something? I know you must have some curiosity in you because you know how to fix mechanical things. This means you were at some point inspired to take things apart to see how they worked and then put them back together again. Well I just want to take Iron Maiden's massive success that seems to me to be completely disproportionate to their talent apart and get to the bottom of how and why it works. I already know that it works, otherwise I wouldn't be questioning how and why it works. And you definitely were trying to spell "spelled" you're just under the impression that "spelt" is a legitimate alternative pronunciation of "spelled."

I generally enjoy talking about this kind of metal history stuff with you Deadovic, because even though we don't always agree on many things, and even though you didn't live through this shit because you're just a kid, 😛 and even though you can be just as hard headed a son of a bitch as I can be, at least you know what the fuck you're talking about and you're not full of shit. So I respect that about you, I see you as a genuine dyed in the wool metalhead motherfucker like me, it's in your DNA, you're not some 42 year old Johnny come lately poseur who just discovered metal last year. So as such I really enjoy our debates, not because I want to win, or because I think I'm gonna change your mind about anything, but just for the pure fun of it. I can go anywhere on the internet and debate politics or whatever, but there are only so many of us genuine metalheads around the world with whom I can have fun discussions about shit like this and who I feel I've gotten to know well enough that they won't take any of this personally. Dude, believe me I've wrestled with the whole corpsepaint, leather and spikes aspects of black metal because I don't care about any of that nonsense, I'm really truly in it just for the music. I don't care about any of the Satanic aspects of black metal either because again, even though I do happen to be pretty vehemently anti-religion and anti-god (meaning I'm against the very delusional concept of gods and creators even existing to begin with, I'm not angry with some supernatural god being who doesn't even exist) I don't pay any attention to the lyrics in black or death metal and none of that Satan shit means anything at all to me, it's just a bunch of nonsense too that has nothing at all to do with why I'm drawn to black metal over death metal. I do admit to preferring music that sounds "evil" if we can even define what sounding "evil" means. I can't really explain it in words, but I know it when I hear it. And that holds true across all genres, black, death, thrash, doom or whatever, I just like it better when it's been "blackened" and sounds "evil." Even Tom Araya when asked how he could reconcile his devout Catholic religious beliefs with the Satanic lyrical themes in Slayer's music told them that they're reading too much into the Satan thing, he just likes it because it sounds cool, that's all there is to it. And that's basically where I'm at too. I crave heavy, ugly, evil, abrasive music because it just sounds cool to me. Nothing more sinister behind it than that. I understand there are a lot of other people out there who really latch onto either the fashion or the Satanic aspects of black metal (or both) and those things can be a big part of the appeal to them, but I have no control over that. For my part it's really always been the riffs and the music that have resonated with me on a visceral level and that's a feeling I just don't get anywhere else other than from listening to the kinds of metal that I enjoy. Now I will confess to walking around in my every day life sporting a bullet belt in my younger years back in the 80's, complete with the leather jacket, tight jeans and the long hair and the whole 9 yards. But I was a dumb 20-something kid back then, probably dumber and more immature back then than most of my peers I'd say if we're being completely forthright, and I'm not gonna defend that shit, but I'm not gonna apologize for it either. I did what I did and it was what it was, and I've long since abandoned any ideas or pretense about being "cool" in my old age or caring what anyone thinks of what I do or what I wear or what I say or what I listen to. I'm just another out of touch old man, just another swinging goat penis out on the bricks doing my own thing and minding my own damn business like anyone else. Just want to add that I don't know what it is, but Motörhead has had a strong appeal to me from basically the first time I ever heard them whenever that was, '81 maybe. Something about Lemmy's don't give a fuck attitude just appeals so strongly on a subconscious level I think. Even when doing my bands countdown thing with CBS I found that Motörhead is still my #2 most listened to band today even with the thing set to only count the plays for the last 7 years as far back as October 2016. Yes even me, the kvlt black metal freak who poo-poos all things 80's and trad metal still loves his Motörhead. Because Motörhead has been with me for over 40 years, year in and year out one of the dependable constants of my adult life. Weird having the three of them all dead and gone now, but I'm still gonna be listening to their music til I'm dead and gone regardless of whatever trendy sub-genres come and go between now and then.

I see Cum Blaster's awake and liking shit so I'd better get on with the countdown. GG top 200 most played bands countdown according to lastFM 30. Napalm Death - Apex Predator, Birmingham UK (588) Had no idea which one I'd pick for Napalm as they have so many good ones. Almost went with the Code is Red and I thought about it then changed it to Harmony Corruption at the last minute. 29. Discharge - End of Days, Stoke, Midlands UK. Yeah I could have gone with the classic era but Cum Blaster already used HNSNSN for his list so I took this one which was a good crust record in 2016. ( 595)

I know you're not a black metal guy. But that's OK, a lot of people aren't into it. Diaboli had much "bigger" souding records than that one, like Wiking Division and the last one Pagan Gods Rise. I think Wiking Division is my favorite, it's WWII themed so you might like that one better. The dude Pete behind Diaboli also put out a couple of death metal records under the name Psycopathic Terror. What do you think of this? The title was his prisoner number. Psychopathic Terror - 230204

Yeah you spelled "spelled" wrong but that's ok, you're 'Strayan and apparently they accept that kind of silliness down there so you can't be expected to know any better.

I do like my war metal but even I wouldn't consider it the best music genre in the world. That would naturally be black/death.

They're entry level gateway metal for beginners. They were alright and served their purpose in 1981 when I was 20 years old and there were only maybe 50 metal bands in existence because heavy metal was only 2 years old. I thought Killers was a pretty good album once upon a time, and I even bought and enjoyed their first 4 albums. But my Maiden phase lasted all of 3 years, by '84's crappy Powerslave record I was completely over it. At 23 I'd checked out and had moved on up to bigger and better things. But to see grown-ass 40+ and even 50+ year old men going mental for Iron Fucking Maiden here in the 21st century when there are so many thousands of better metal bands out there one could choose to listen to, it leaves me scratching my head. I really honestly can't fathom the depth & breadth of their immense stature and popularity and incredible longevity in the metal world that seems to me to be way out of proportion to the middling quality of their tiresome music. 4 pretty good albums 40 years ago should mean that they now have a small cult following of older guys who enjoy the occasional nostalgic hit from spinning those old records every now and then. As in the way it is for most of their other NWOBHM peers from the early 80's. There were much better bands from that era, imho of course, so tell me why are Maiden the exalted ones? What is it about them that people find so appealing and endearing that I'm missing? Is Adelaide not in close proximity to the ocean? Are there no edible sea creatures to be found in the St Vincent Gulf, or Spencer Gulf or Long Bay?

I hate that I live in a world where even among actual metalheads who listen to actual metal (not just mainstream trad and thrash) a banal vapid mainstream kiddie band like Iron Maiden is a bigger name who's more widely loved, revered and respected than Goatpenis. Is there no justice?

GG top 200 most played bands countdown according to lastFM 32. Murg - Varg & Björn, Sweden (572) these guys should be much higher up on my list but their discography is only 3 albums, just 24 songs. Without question they're my favorite of all the newer young black metal bands who just got started in the last 10 years. 31. Bathory - Hammerheart (575) I really don't listen to Bathory as often as I should, and whenever I do I always think I should really do this more often. Been playing the ever loving shit out of Hammerheart lately though, these last couple of months I just keep going back to it again and again. I might even be willing to say this has become my favorite Bathory album. But if you're searching for something to listen to you're not gonna click on Goat Penis are you? You wouldn't take them seriously as a band even though for war metal they're really a cut above most other bands.

Iron who? I haven't been to the Cape since I was a kid. We used to go up with both sets of grandparents and rent a house a block from the beach for two weeks in Dennisport every summer. I do remember sitting in traffic in the hot car (A/C was not standard equipment in the 60's cars) for what seemed like hours just to get over that stupid Sagamore bridge. I have no reason to go back now, the clams were great but I'm not a beach person by any stretch. Fisherman's platter does sound good though, I do have some cajun seafood salad in the fridge, might make a sandwich and call that my one meal for the day. That'd be seafood 4 days in a row though, we had salmon burgers Saturday, I made sauteed cod in a white wine, garlic and diced tomato sauce with rice and veggies Sunday and then ate the leftovers last night. I do love seafood though so I think I can withstand 4 days in a row.

Yes really. = ) We get posters of many different ages here but the highest concentration who stick around seems to be people born in the 1970's, or dudes (hombres) in their mid to late 40's. Of the small group of regulars who post here most prolifically, there are 3 of us over 60, the rest are 40's and 30's. We don't get a lot of kids here and the ones that do wander in usually don't stick around very long once they realize we're mostly older folks and don't have much in common with them musically. Just checked the weather and surprisingly it seems to be a bit hotter way up here in New Jersey this week, and hotter across the USA in general than it is in hermosa Guadalajara. Which is funny because many Americans have the idea that Mexico is an inhopitable desert that's usually hotter than the face of the sun and barely able to support human life, and if the heat don't get you then the bandidos will. We also think that 99% of Mexicans live in Mexico City up on top of that mountain, because it's the only place where it's cool enough to go outside. Likewise many Americans think Canada is a frozen wasteland whose citizens live in igloos and if the polar bears don't get you then the errant flying hockey pucks will. Which just goes to show you how ignorant many Americans are. Rained like the dickens for nearly an hour, now all is quiet again. The lights never went out so we're doing alright. When the lights go out it's bad because we can't cook or flush the toilets and the 9 year old can't watch Youtube or play his video games. He seems to think I have the power to restore our electric service with a snap of my fingers, and he'll just keep asking me how long til it comes back on over and over as if I had some inside info he's not privy to that I'm keeing to myself. Our power goes out much too often here because of all the trees which seem to only be able to fall directly onto the power lines, so anytime a storm comes through I think "oh no, here we go again" but I'm always glad when my fears are not realized. I'm not a fashion consultant and I do not pretend to understand (or care) anything about style or fashion. I don't want to be recommending outfits for other people, especially women who more often than not do care about style and fashion. I also steadfastly refuse to answer the age old questions: "How do I look?" and "Is this ok or should I change?" and the classic "Does this make me look fat?" I just think wedding dresses are silly even on the day you're getting married, much less the rest of the time. And yes I do realize you're not actually wearing a wedding dress, was just going along with your whole Miss Havisham theme. I would say wear whatever is comfortable and makes you feel good. And I'm sorry about your 20 year old song, I would not get your hopes up too high if I were you. We get someone coming in here every few weeks looking for info on some old song they heard once 20 or 30 years ago with usually very little in the way of clues for us to go on. They'll be like "I heard this song in 1996 and it went da da da dum dum da da da and it had the word dream in it. There was a cool bassline and the singer had a high screechy voice. Does anyone know what it coud be?" It's become a bit of a joke around here because not once have I ever seen the mystery solved.

GG top 200 most played bands countdown according to lastFM 34. Alastor - Crushing Christiendom, Portugal (562) Very consistent but overlooked band. Raw black/thrash just doesn't get the respect it rightfully deserves. 33. Diaboli - The Antichrist, Finland (564) now we're getting into the unfuckwithable tier of bands. Starting with these two the rest of my list is all bands that I hold in the highest esteem, these are "my bands" as it were. There are other newer bands not on this list that I think of as "my bands" as well, the only reason they're not here is they only have an album or two out and haven't had enough time to rack up a ton of plays yet. So this entire list is really more of a favorite established longstanding bands list than what I would come up with if you just asked me to list my 200 favorite bands. There will be only 3 more Finnish bands in my top 32. There have been 24 so far, so that means 27 altogether or 13.5% of my 200 have been Finnish bands. Which is nuts considering they only have 5.54 million people up there.

You're not old mija, I could be your father. I promise your Engrish is perfect, don't give it another thought. Just jump in and start posting anytime. And take that wedding dress off (you don't wear the veil all the time, do you?) it's gotta be hot under there, and that's much too formal attire for a metal forum. I hear thunder rumbling in the distance, better run downstairs and make my coffee before we lose power.

Bienvenidos Miss Havisham. I look forward to reading your lengthy posts. We viejitos have lots of time to read lengthy posts. But I'm sure you're not as old as several of us are, you'll fit right in. And no worries, your English is fine.

GG top 200 most played bands countdown according to lastFM 36. Purtenance - Awaken from Slumber, Finland (554) CBS took MoID so I'll take the comeback album. Two original members on drums and guitars with two young guys on bass and vox, I like Purtenance Mk II. 35. Cemetery Urn - Barbaric Retribution, (556) wonderfully ugly death metal from Melbourne Australia. I actually wore this shirt yesterday.

No ketchup, you get them with ta-tah sauce down the Cape from the guy in the clam truck at the beach.