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On 4/20/2024 at 5:36 PM, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Metal is a sub-genre of rock. Therefore all metal is considered to be a form of rock music. But obviously all rock music is not metal.

Metal and rock are too far apart the hardest rock is not as strong as the least heavy forms of metal. 

Even in the early days metal took more from blues than rock

 

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10 hours ago, Gewaltundtod said:

Metal and rock are too far apart, the hardest rock is not as strong as the least heavy forms of metal. 

Even in the early days metal took more from blues than rock

 

Yet metal is still just one of the many different forms of rock music.

Your original question "Is metal rock or an entirely different genre?" is like asking are roses flowers or an entirely different category? Because roses and daffodils look so different, they couldn't possibly both be the same thing.

Obviously they're not always that far apart as you seem to think because I've seen lots of people over the years arguing whether certain bands are rock or metal. If the two genres were so completely different it would be self evident which category bands fall into. But obviously there's a point at which the two genres intersect and it becomes difficult for some people to distinguish between the two. How do you define how "strong" a band's music is anyway?

Take old Black Sabbath records for example. They're a 70's hard rock band with a heavy blues influence that many metalheads want to bestow heavy metal status on in retrospect. Why is that, they're clearly hard rock? Are 70's Sabbath and 70's Priest really that far apart? Priest is known as one of the first heavy metal bands, but their first 4 albums are just blues based hard rock like early Sabbath, Uriah Heep or Deep Purple. Heavy metal got started as just some bands taking hard rock music to the next logical progressive step. Most of your very earliest 80's heavy metal bands were playing music that was really not that radically different from the Zeppelins and Sabbaths that had inspired them. 

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