markm

Thanks for the info. Think I'll subscribe to NGL as I do like some of that sort of content. I watch kayaking, yoga, PT and other videos on YT so now that makes sense it gives you sidebars of other content. Like every joint discomfort I've had, I'll go and research rotator cuff or meniscus knee tear, or neck tightness or whatever and get a lot of that junk.

I sometimes wonder if Trump nation could wave a MAGA wand and get everything they want without Democratic opposition-let's say install Trump as President for life....what would they actually do and want other banning abortion for all women at all times, building a wall and eliminating taxes for the super wealthy (which they've come damn close to doing anyway)? I ask because as far as I can tell, they don't really stand for anything except culture wars, white grievance and, sticking it to the libs. MAGA seems more about reactiveness. I mean there wasn't even a 2020 Republican platform at their convention, it was just whatever Trump and his family wanted to say on a given night. The platform seemed to be Trump's celebrity, misinformation and propaganda. But what do they want to accomplish except installing single party rule?

I was under the impression that a lot of you guys used it for specific channels like black metal promotion rather than random searches.

Guess I'm missing something as I almost never go to Youtbue to listen to or find new music. I do however use Bandcamp a fair amount, but usually to listen to stuff I've saved in wish list mode or listen to my feed.

I assume any self respecting metal fan is not surprised at anti religious sentiment in metal culture generally and overt anti Christian views specifically. This is sort of-duh.

Great points as usual GG on religions, but I believe there are actual orthodox Satanists-supposedly-that worship Satanic deities, but it's always been a bit smoke and mirrors to me.

The goats have spoken. Imma gonna haveta listen to this motherfucker. Saved to my BC waitlist.

Hi.

I haven't been posting much here because I've bought very little new metal this year. I will say Haunter's Discarnate Ails is one of the best albums I've grabed..it's progreesive black/death with a fair amount of dissonance but they always cycle back to a heavy, chaotic sound I dig......that said I found a stack of CD's from 2016, some new, some old but 2016 purchases- tucked away in my basement in overflow CD storage that I've been listening to before putting into main collection interspersed with 2021 albums: Asphyx/Incoming Death Ghoulgotha/To Starve the Cross-sounding better than I remembered Monolord/Vaenir-pretty boring, really Red Giant/Devil Child Blues-great The Vision Bleak/The Unknown-this holds up pretty well-gothic metal with blackened overtones Fleshgod Apocalypse/King-on the one hand-what was I thinking?-on the other hand-this is like a DM version of Dimmu Borgir or Therion both of whom I occasionally enjoy-and it's fun. Ramones/Leave Home Sufjan Stevens & Angelo De Augustine/A Beginner's Mind The War on Drugs/I Don't Live Here Anymore King Woman/Celestial Blues

New thread we should start-"metal your wife/GF will actually fucking tolerate".

I love Agrimonia. Agnosy is very cool, too. Rites of Separation is great. Awaken was my favorite album from 2018. It felt like a more "evolved" mixture of styles. Somewhat surprised you like Agrimonia in their genre mixing, but yeah, love that kind of thing. Definitely a good album but they have several that stack up pretty high for me-Viva Emptiness, Last Fair Deal Gone Down.

I'll definitely check the it out unless it gets completely trashed by the metal intelligencia.

Really? I never would have guessed. Good to see you posting again! Hope you are well.

He's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

Under the Sign of Hell rules. Some good albums there. Did you ever listen to Immortal-At the Heart of winter-that's a great one with some strong blackened thrash goodness. One of my faves that might win over even BM deniers.

Neurosis/Fires within fires Oceans of Slumber/Starlight and Ash (2022)-no longer metal -progressive goth rock Oceans of Slumber/Winter (2016) For chill house music, I've been on something of a Debussy kick lately....a few minutes each morning as I get ready for work. His music has that fleeting impressionist feel that just feels right for now: Debussy Sonatas/ Nash Ensemble as well as a Kyung-Wha Chung recording of his violin sonata Debussy String Quartets/Emerson Quartets Debussy/Orchestral Works (La Mer, Images, etc.)/Charles Dutroit and Montreal Symphony Orchestra

Honestly, no reason to lament grunge as it basically morphed into stoner metal and sludge, or at minimum there is overlap. Superunknown has been heralded as an early stoner rock album. Dead brought Melvins into the discussion who obviously have overlap into sludge. I particularly like stoner and sludge with punk/hardcore influence.

I had Mudhoney's Piece of Cake from 92-dig that album.

I'm not sure how I feel about grunge really. I liked a lot of the bands but it also gets mixed in with my feelings about alternative rock/metal. And the music is now quite dated. I'll still throw on Dirt or Facelift or Superunknown or Badmotorfinger but I'm also sort of over those albums at this point except BMF which is one of my favorite albums of all time. Melvins are a different animal to me, but I fucking love Melvins. Peal Jam is boring and flat out suck-they're like the Bruce Springsteen of grunge . I never got into Nirvana in a big way. Actually, it was Nevermind. That album blew up in such a big way that I refused to buy it. But I did get In Utero which I rather liked and yeah, of course they were pivotal. I think Nirvana was a bigger influence on guys that were younger. I was in my my mid-late 20's rather than, say high school. I also mash up bands like NIN and Ministry that produced influential albums around the same time or maybe a couple of years later but it all blends into the amorphous early 90's alt metal thing along with way too much airplay from bands like The Smashing Pumpkins and The Offspring.

I'm in general agreement. I'm tired of playing shit for my wife or 22 year old kid who might enjoy a random AC/DC or Zeppelin or Sabbath track, but really have no taste for anything heavy. Fuck it. It's not in you. Never gonna be.

Don't be....very user friendly. I like a fair amount of black metal but I actually think it generally sounds like shit on a decent speaker system. Somehow it translates pretty darn well on headphones....like the HPs take out some of the strident sibilance whereas DM often, but not always, with it's more thundering low end is the way to go on speaks...plus you hate black metal and like DM haha.

Dang guys, why can't we all just get along? I want my MTV.

Haunter – Discarnate Ails-love this album

Interesting reading.....but too many words...as someone less invested without the depth and breadth of some of you who have really studied the history and trends in DM, but as someone who still enjoys DM, I think Dead has some valid points...and I don't always agree on his takes, but overall I'd say, yah, Dead I think you're largely correct. That's why many of us who explore early DM through the mid 90's get thrilled by what they hear-as you say the range and diversity and inspired fresh sounds of the age.

For sure that would prolly go on mine.