Midi

Then you should hang out with different metalheads.  You imply a cultural bias against electronic music and a sharp distinction between "electronic" and "instrumental" music; at best, those are oversimplifications. Nearly everyone I know would evaluate any particular album on its individual merit. I know a lot of musicians who are opposed to the kind of studio fakery that lets people record parts they can't pull off live, but I don't know anyone who denigrates electronic music. 

This whole thing here. You say it's "not rare" that electronics are "held in contempt" by "metalheads". That implies that most people who enjoy metal are opposed to electronic influences across the board. That's not true, and saying it the way that you did ignores the very wide range of successful experiments in various subgenres over the past thirty years or so. There are some metal purists who don't enjoy electronics on principle, but the same could be said of any genre. 

deathspell omega

Midi, I disagree with some of your points. I know plenty of metalheads who listen to industrial and other electronic music, and there's been crossover between the two for decades. This covers the spectrum from pop metal to avant-garde, from soothing to abrasive, and ranges from something as simple as background keyboards to something as deep as Ulver's "Themes from the Marriage of Heaven and Hell". Swans used to play with tape loops in the 80s. Ahumado Granujo splices bits of dance music into their grind songs. Samael played live with a drum machine. Cybergrind, industrial black metal, etc etc...

There are so many possibilities with electronics that they're easy to misuse. If they're mixed inappropriately, they can overpower and ruin the texture of live instruments; fake string and vocal patches are usually downright cheesy; and there's a blurry distinction between background use, full integration, and an excessive reliance on prefab sounds and prerecorded parts that damages the integrity and sense of danger/unpredictability that's part of the draw of a live performance. Usually, programmed drums suck live (Havohej was boring as fuck, Thrones would have been better with real drums); but Melt Banana was amazing because of the theatrics of their performance, and because the vocalist was triggering each section by hand. There's no rule that applies all the time. 

Bottom line, integrating electronics successfully is harder than people think. It's up to a band to determine how or whether they work in the context of their music. 

"OUUAAAIIIIS Je mourrais pour mon pays j'adore l'Amerique"

Normal service resumed hey?

 

Anywho I'm listening to the creepy piano buildup that tells you something is about to happen in Carpenter's Halloween

Don't know why but I wouldn't have thought that would be your go Midi...the things you learn hey?

I hear their latest sucked. I never really listened through Aphotic though, so maybe I should do that first. I didn't hate what I heard off Aphotic as much as you did.

Plymouth. Chile.  Not that far away.

Are you taking it personally because he called you dumb and smelly?  I'm amazed by some of the responses from people who don't get that it's a troll page. 

 

Here ya go: 

http://carcinoma-uk.bandcamp.com/releases

As I said, I don't think they're all the way there yet, but this is pretty vicious and they have good ideas.