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Just their general existence... A Kerrang band who've Disneyfied 'metal' into the whole 'rock' MTV/media acceptance. Now I want metal and rock to be accepted, but on it's merits, not image or 'kitch-ness'. I know that some metal fans (and many on here) think that MCR and Slipknot/Trivium (to name a few) are the same thing, but they aren't. Slip/Triv and others play metal, are influenced by metal and are metal IMO. MCR/Linkin Park play pop. Simple. I hope that MCR (and the other phoneys) die of syphilis.haha not the biggest fans then? What was it you didn't like about them? (normal and funny answers welcome)... -
It's hats-in-the-air time folks, with the announcement that My Chemical Romance are splitting.
W@nkers. Don't ever, ever, re-form. -
AC/DC for old c@nts like me! Brilliant songs, just brilliant. Lizzy, Motorhead and BOC bringing up the rear (oooh-err, missus!).
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Had Ensiferum down as folk metal rather than melodic death, but that apart you could try Amon Amarth.
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I'm probably the only person on the planet that prefers his solo stuff to White Zombie. But on this one he's trying too hard.... Last album had some classics (Werewolf Women Of The SS). Blut! Cannot understand how you thought he was boring live!? The man has presence!
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Motorhead tattoo-top of left arm.
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Being brilliant doesn't mean you're influential. I love The Stranglers and they are superb musicians and wrote brilliant songs, but you could count the number of decent bands they've influenced on a leper's right hand...
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Sabbaton Rainbow Rose Tattoo Marduk The Vision Bleak Really impressed by Sabbaton!
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Brilliant thread and good lists guys! Wouldn't argue with any of those. But being an old sod, I'd add a few (let's leave aside the debate about whether these bands are metal or not): Rainbow - Rising: Sublime, inspired so many, plus the Dungeons & Dragons theme which most metal heads like. AC/DC - Back In Black: So good it influences just about everyone. Thin Lizzy - Live And Dangerous: The benchmark for live albums. Motorhead - Overkill: One of the first uses of really heavy and fast double base drumming, the start of thrash? Faith No More - The Real Thing: Just a new style of metal altogether. Ministry - Psalm 69: I've heard a lot of impersonators, but none as good.
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Clive's drumming on the 1st Maiden album is brilliant. Some of the songs are quite complex. I always preferred him to Nick McBrain.
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I'm beginning to develop a tolerance for sludge' date=' not a lot of it but Eyehategod and Crowbar are pretty cool[/quote'] The first time I heard Broken Glass by Crowbar I didn't like it, but persevered and now they're on of my favourite bands.
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Excellent post, Dude. The whole 'glam' debate is like the whole 'metal' debate-based heavily on image. If Crue, Poison, Ratt, etc can be regarded as metal (and Crue were when they came out-no debate) where do Slipknot come into it? In the context of the times they wre ALL metal bands (obviously some in the genres were NOT). and the John Corabi album is actually very, very good. Not stadium filling (neither were any Crue albums), but very good none-the-less.Their stuff with Corabi on their self-titled album is really underrated and really good. Also, Kickstart my Heart is one of my favorite songs. Glam, while quite commercial, is far superior to nu-metal and metalcore; better vocals, better riffs, excellent solos. Yes, it was not the most lyrically adept genre, but it's no more embarrassing than cheesy power metal. In the early 90s, there were some amazing glam records; Warrant's Dog Eat Dog, Skid Row's Slave to the Grind, Guns n Roses Use Your Illusion II. -
Glam is not' date=' nor has it ever been, metal. The fact that you consider the dual atrocities of Ratt and Poison to be metal is baffling particularly given your affinity for extreme metal and disdain of the equally commercial core movements.[/quote'] Have to agree totally Restless. Can't understand NTNR's comments about Crue being "everything that's wrong..." and then saying Ratt and Poison were ok/better?!?! NTNR-Yer blitzed man! Stop drinkin' Brasso!
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Yes and no, Satan. Some stuff like Live Wire, Looks That Kill etc are definitely hard rock/metal. But they did a lot of other soft rock pap too. Shout At The devil is a good album, but not the classic it's made out to be. Funnily enough, Saints Of Los Angeles is a very good hard rock album yet never quoted. Girls, Girls, Girls is utter urine. They're more famous for their lifestyle of the past than their music though. If they'd been clean living boys they'd not be playing big arenas today.Don't like them and never have. Hard rock my arse, pop rock may be. -
I quite liked them, saw them twice on the Theatre Of Pain tour and they were brilliant live. But they really weren't very good on the whole, if truth be told. The weren't as bad as Poison though. Not that that's big praise!That's one to many of each. That band shouldn't be as popular as they are. They embodied everything that was wrong with mainstream rock in the 80's. -
Gary Glitter is one of the greatest live performers I have ever seen. The man was brilliant. Pity he's a kiddie fiddler.... And as for ABBA? No, I don't like them, but there songs are brilliantly structured and written. Compared to the nonesense pop of today, they wrote and played their own songs.
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No way' date=' Lombardo is every bit the beast he's made out to be. Nobody was playing as fast, hard, and crazy as he was that early on, he was instrumental in pushing metal's drummers into more extreme directions.[/quote'] Oh I agree, he was/is a great drummer, but his importance as 'irreplaceable' is over stated. Just because you're ground breaking doesn't mean you're the best. His importance to Slayer is more to do with his style and nostalgia. Other drummers will maybe not 'fit the bill' but be better than him. I refer back to Phil Rudd because he's not technically brilliant, but his (technically better) replacements have tried to do it their way and it sticks out like a sore thumb. There's dozens of drummers better than Lombardo who could drum better than him, but the fans won't see it like that. They'll look at who's drumming rather than listening to the drumming. And they may not be wrong. But the whole thing that sooks the boaby is that a unique band, genuine legends, are squabbling over percentages. It's nothing new-The Damned fell out constantly over it, many have split over it and more have just chucked music altogether. It's the money men more than the bands themselves who're to blame. The suits take the dosh and let the creators of the dosh fight over the crumbs. That's the way of the capitalist world, unfortunately. And that's why I'm not a suit...
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It's probably heresay, but I do feel that Lombardo is over rated as a drummer too. But I suppose he's part of the 'set up' in much the same way as Phil Rudd is with AC/DC.
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It's kinda funny this happening and you writing this, Blut, coz I was going to say more or less the same thing in the Controversial Metal Opinions. From a career (and, yes, business) point of view, they should have split about 15 years ago and did the 'original line-up comeback' routine. They maybe wouldn't be so ropey live or have produced so many piss-poor albums. And for this to happen over money? Jesus H Christ. How desperately sad.Yeah' date=' I just read that on another forum, pretty legitimately fucked up. The band is definitely being mismanaged if just the name Slayer can pack any venue, but they can't afford to pay their drummer. Kerry probably doesn't give a shit because he's making money from being in those Jagermeister commercials, or maybe he's helping to facilitate the fucked up accounting, who knows. [b']I don't care a ton because Slayer sucked when I saw them live, and they haven't released an album that I've cared about in over 20 years, so maybe it's time for them to throw in the towel. -
But not if you're from Auchinleck or Hemel Hempstead....more people should talk like Bill and Ted
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I always thought Goth started in the late 19th Century....Goth started in the 70's, I've met old Goths before. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2 -
The 1st Iron Maiden album is still their best. I will never tire of hearing it, especially Remember Tomorrow and Transylvania. Still don't understand why Steve Harris says he hates the production on it-it's the same production as every Iron Maiden album since!
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Completely agree there gus' date=' awesome songs.[/quote'] Dave, Motorhead are like AC/DC & Lizzy: so many classics, but they think the fans want to hear the 'hits'. What prompted this thread was, I read an old interview with Scott Gorham who said that the band had no idea that the fans were bored with the set they kept playing. I think that's the only time in the last 20 years I've agreed with the glue-sniffer! I suppose this thread's for older metal fans, because it tends to be about bands who've got a long back-catalogue (10 years or more). Here's some more: Entombed-Morning Star Judas Priest-Take On tHe World Ministry-Breathe
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Can't say I've kept up to date with Maiden since 1985-ish, but are you saying that they don't play their best song ever, live anymore, Relentless? That's actually criminal....Iron Maiden - Phantom Of The Opera, Flash Of The Blade, Where Eagles Dare, Caught Somewhere In Time, Judas Be My Guide Megadeth - Good Mourning/Black Friday, Liar, Looking Down The Cross, Last Rites/Loved To Death, My Last Words, Bad Omen, Skull Beneath The Skin, High Speed Dirt, Vortex Slayer - Crypts Of Eternity, Tormentor Metallica - Metal Militia, Phantom Lord, The Call of Cthulu, Orion, The Shortest Straw, Frayed Ends Of Sanity, Dyers Eve
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