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Re: suggestions

isnt cradle of filth considered gothic metal? i also thought manowar (which i already listen to) was traditional heavy metal

They are now, but in their beginnings they were considered Symphonic Black Metal. To be honest I don't consider anything that doesn't sound like Venom real BM. The stuff from Scandinavia is melodic Metal to my ears due to their obscene lack of bottom end and palm muting. Also since they all tune to standard. I was offering suggestions based on popular opinion. I don't think they come more Power Metal than Manowar.

Re: Cannibal Corpse Either way they beat the hell out of Six Feet Under.

Re: What Are You Listening To?

Alas : Absolute Purity

I haven't listened to that in a long time. I'm going to have to dust it off and rock it tonight. NP: My Dying Bride - As the Flower Withers

Re: Manowar

Sad' date=' since Dronjak was one of the founding members. I want Stefan Elmgren and Magnus Rosen back. [/quote'] Totally

Re: Bal-Sagoth

Agreed! Their studio material is great.

Re: Funeral Doom Marco Kehren (from Deinonychus) was the Bethlehem for that album (and a couple of others). He sounds like he's being raped every time he opens his mouth. The music is very strange as well. Great Dark Metal, or at least they were before jumping ship and becoming industrial rock. Stabat Mater is heavy Funeral Doom. The song above is creepy and evil and the sounds of some one being tortured are heard throughout the song. Abruptum is more or less Black Noise.

Re: Funeral Doom Not sure why that would scare you but if you want some really trippy/fucked up stuff check out the following: Bethlehem - Sardonischer Untergang im Zeichen Irreligiöser Darbietung (aka S.U.i.Z.i.D.) Worship/Stabat Mater (split single) Abruptum - Obscuritatem Advoco Amplectére Me

Re: Funeral Doom Khanate are firmly placed in the Sludge camp, a style that is seemingly getting more and more popular these days. Eyehategod and Noothgrush are better examples IMO and take less effort to enjoy.

Re: band t'shirts! Well I do know EVERYTHING after all.

Re: band t'shirts!

I included Crue there since it was hair metal, harhar. And how is Zombie not metal? White Zombie was metal, and his solo stuff is still metal as well. D:

White Zombie was Metal where as Rob Zombie is simply modern rock. Ask anyone above the age of 24 and they'll tell you. There is nothing heavy about Rob's solo offerings. He could arguably be lumped in with the Nu-Metal crowd (which is neither new or Metal for that matter). You are still a kid, most of the people that frequent this board are, and as a result your views on what makes a band Metal aren't always correct. This isn't to say there is a lack of intelligence by any means, but rather a lack of knowledge. Just because someone was in a Metal band and they carry on in another "rock" based band doesn't make them Metal. Take Soil for instance. If memory serves, the bassist from prominent underground Death Metal band Sindrome created Soil sometime after their demise. They are a simplistic modern rock band lacking ALL that made Sindrome Metal. The first Bruce Dickinson solo album was pure hard rock, absolutely nothing metallic about it, the same goes for his Skunkworks recording as well. Ian Gillian from Deep Purples' first solo effort was Jazz (which upset countless fans causing him to start making metal/rock albums until he blew his vocal chords). Sean Yesult (the bassist from White Zombie) went on to various horror punk and alternative outfits after White Zombies untimely demise. The point is, just because someone from a Metal band has created another band doesn't make it Metal. Distorted guitars, shouted lyrics, big drums (some electronics in Zombies case) are the formula for anything from country to rock to gothic to Metal. You kids these days!!!!

Re: What Are You Listening To? My Dying Bride - Turn Loose the Swans

Re: band t'shirts! Nice MM but Motley and Zombie aren't Metal.

Re: suggestions Depending on what you consider as Black Metal I'd suggest: Venom, Mercyful Fate & Bathory. For the modern Scandinavian intrepretation I'd avoid Dimmu Borgir (way overrated) for starters. These are what you'd do well by: Immortal, Satyricon, Marduk, Graveland, Cradle of Filth, Dark Funeral & Borknagar. For Viking: Vintersorg, Tyr, Amon Amarth, Moonsorrow & Turisas Power is pretty broad (and no Stratovarius isn't Power, they're Prog/Power!) and depending on your tastes: Manowar, Helloween, Gamma Ray, Hammerfall, Iron Savior, Blind Guardian, Metalium, Steel Attack, Nevermore, Dream Evil.

Re: Underrated or Unknown Metal

Yeah' date=' Forest stream are really good- I completely forgot about them.[/quote'] I like their second album better than their first but both are excellent for Gothic/Death/Doom.

Re: band t'shirts! Too many to count! lol. My favorite are: Anathema - Serenades Anathema - Eternity Avernus - Where Sleeping Shadows Lie Bal-Sagoth - The Power Cosmic Helloween - Better than Raw Morgion - Cloaked by Ages, Crowned in Earth Morgion - Trillium Rune Cradle of Filth - Praise the Whore Cradle of Filth - Lord Abortion Cradle of Filth - Vestal Masturbation Cradle of Filth - Touched by Jesus Cradle of Filth - (I can't recall the title of) Paradise Lost - Gothic Moonspell - Irreligious My Dying Bride - The Dreadful Hours My Dying Bride - Bring Me Victory Type O Negative - (various tour shirts) There are more but I can't think of then all.

Re: Manowar

Agreed, I saw a/the promo video for whatever song they were touting as their current single and exited out less than half way through. I've read many interviews w/ Oscar and apparently he came from the Hair Metal scene in his own country, and while he apparently enjoys other types of Metal he seems hell bent on making a once great Power Metal band cheap 80's sleaze rock. I've completely given up on them.

Re: What Are You Listening To? My Dying Bride - Like Gods of the Sun

Re: Bal-Sagoth Oi, yet another silly label derived from bands that are either "black" metal and/or viking/folk with perhaps less organic keyboard flurishes. Rhapsody is simply 'Dinner Theatre Metal' by that standard. Bal-Sagoth is good but awful live, or at least the vocals are.

Re: Devin Townsend

Well I don't pay attention to the lyrics' date=' so to me it just appears stupid Personally, I enjoy DTP's [i']Ghost the most.

If it wasn't for the silliness I'd have ignored it as I have the rest of his material.

Re: What Are You Listening To?

Dream Theater's "Falling Into Infinity". Very underrated album.

That was the second DT album I got and I've always liked it. Its more mainstream than what came before and after it but it's still got some great songs. NP: Type O Negative - Dead Again

Re: Cannibal Corpse

Their first four albums are mandatory classics' date=' with Corpsegrinder era being hit or miss with their peaks being Bloodthirst and Kill. The band's early material is incredible in my opinion, though now they should just break up and save face.[/quote'] Their first four albums are fun except for Tomb of the Mutilated. That album is painfully boring. Everything they've done w/ Corpsegrinder has been incredible. The only really "bad" album of his era would be 'Gore Obsessed' that album is pretty dull. 'Bloodthirst' isn't too far behind it however.

Re: Manowar I love Manowar! I've got most of their material and it's simply killer IMO. 'Hail To England' blows goats however. Hammerfall was good up to and including 'Crimson Thunder'. They really stopped trying after that album. Although 'Chapter V: Unbent, Unbowed, Unbroken' & ' Threshold' did have some good songs but were mostly miss. They've degenerated into a relatively heavy Hair band.

(This is a "ported" topic from the old board written by Ryan Henry not me. However I have added to parts of this.) For those who have never heard funeral doom, but are curious as to what it's all about, here are some general characteristics of the genre. I can tell you that it's not for everyone... - Very slow, heavy music; with few "riffs". Relies more on chording or a few riffs to eventually build into a soundscape. - Snail-slow drums with sparse fills; traditional drums are often replaced with timpani (Skepticism does this frequently) - Almost always employs keyboards or organ. - Vocals are usually guttural, almost to the point of being indecipherable; often sound pitch-shifted; will also employ chanting or spoken verse - Lyrics are as sparse as the music; often not following traditional song structure at all - Songs usually clock in at anywhere between 8 to 14 minutes, and are often intentionally repetitive Very quickly, funeral doom unofficially "began" with the recordings of the Finnish band Thergothon in the early 1990s. The production was horrendous; the songwriting, stellar. From here, a number of bands emerged. Skepticism, another Finnish act, would follow in the vein of Thergothon. Esoteric, out of the UK, would release some very essential work as well. diSEMBOWELMENT would mix the "funeral doom" pace with grindcore and ambient/world music. Funeral doom peaked in the early 2000s, with the release of Shape of Despair's "Angels of Distress" -- often held up as the gold standard of the style. Finland is considered the "nexus" of this style of doom. If you are still interested in exploring this style, here are the best albums to start with: Colosseum - Chapter 1: Delirium** Colosseum - Chapter 2: Numquam** Colosseum - Chapter 3: Parasomnia** Esoteric - Epistemological Despondency** Esoteric - The Pernicious Enigma Esoteric - Subconscious Dissolution into the Continuum Evoken - Shades of Night Descending* Evoken - Embrace the Emptiness*,** Evoken - Quietus Evoken - Antithesis of Light Hierophant - The Tome Mistress of the Dead - Weeping Silence of the Dead** Mistress of the Dead - White Roses, White Coffin Mistress of the Dead - I Know Her Face from the Tombstone Panthiest - 1000 Years Pantheist - O Solitude Reclusiam - Reclusiam Stabat Mater - Stabat Mater Shape of Despair - Shades of...** Shape of Despair - Angels of Distress Shape of Despair - Illusion's Play Skepticism - Stormcrowfleet** Skepticism - Lead and Aether Skepticism - Aes Skepticism - Farmakon Thergothon - Fhtagn-nagh Yog-Sothoth Thergothon - Stream From the Heavens** Tyranny - Bleak Vistae Tyranny - Tides of Awakening Until Death Overtakes Me - Symphony III - Monolith Wormphlegm - Tomb of the Ancient King Worship - Last Tape Before Doomsday Worship - Dooom *Not considered "pure" funeral doom, but borrows elements from the genre ** RECOMMENDED starting points for the FD initiate

Re: Your favorite death metal bands? Death Cannibal Corpse Obituary Disincarnate Carcass Dismember Atheist Pan-Thy-Monium Massacre Immolation Morbid Angel Torture Killer Diabolic (live only)

Re: What Are You Listening To? My Dying Bride - Trinity (European version, to work) Type O Negative - Bloody Kisses (at work)