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Mornin' Vic! Having a Twisted Sister day today are we?

Hellgate Necrosodomy - The Annihilation Deliverance, Finland

2 minutes ago, AlSymerz said:

Kind of like Bender from Futurama

I don't know who/what Bender is or what Futurama is, I'm busy being a metalhead you see. If you could put your references in terms of actual metal then maybe I'll understand them. 

Impaled - Mondo Medicale, goregrind Oakland CA 2002

Vile Ritual - Caverns of Occultic Hatred, one-man black death Maryland 2023

2 hours ago, AlSymerz said:

"Actual" metalheads are even better.

Yes we are 😁

47 minutes ago, AlSymerz said:

I love the idea that Slayer are mainstream and that people who like what Kerry or Slayer have done aren't metalheads.

I said actual metalheads. To differentiate between them and just regular mainstream metalheads. Who are still metalheads, but just a different species.

Any band or artist that gets covered on sites like Blabbermouth or MetalSucks are by definition mainstream metal. I don't visit those sites myself being an actual metalhead who has no interest in mainstream metal, but I have no doubt that Slayer and KK get plenty of coverage there.

2 minutes ago, AlSymerz said:

Scott Ian claimed for years that Neil fired Lilker for being too tall, and that they should never have given Neil so much power. But it's been rebutted for years and most suggest Scott had more of a hand in it that he wants to admit so as not to ruin whatever friendship he had with Lilker who wrote/co wrote most of their songs back then.

Honestly their first album is the only one I'd consider worth even half a shit today. Hadn't thought about why that is, but maybe it's because Danny Lilker was writing the songs back then. Every other band Lilker's been involved with since 1984 has been light years better than the 'Thrax. Fist banging mania!

2 hours ago, Thatguy said:

WALK THROUGH FIRE - Till Aska. Their new one. It's only 54 minutes. Are you worthy?

Man I hope not. Put it on for a sec to have a squiz and they're playing at a blazing 3 beats per minute. Chechnyans would not approve.

3 hours ago, AlSymerz said:

Hey look, it's a new single for Kerry King. I bet everyone's excited for this!!

Considering the last decent album he did with Slayer was 36 fucking years ago now, I'd be surprised if many actual metalheads really gave a shit about whatever nonsense he's doing these days. The mainstreaners will of course all piss themselves with excitement. But what else is new?

1 hour ago, AlSymerz said:

There's a lot of fat, old and ugly men in metal now. There is also bean poles out there. Picture of Lilker back in Anthrax for a few shows. The dude is 59 and tower over his short arse band mates but he's not fat.

I don't have instagram so I don't know if links work, but here's the link to a blabbermouth article with the instagram pic posted at the bottom.

https://blabbermouth.net/news/anthrax-shares-first-new-photo-with-original-bassist-dan-lilker

 

I don't do Instagram either, but that's ok I know what Danny Lilker and the Anthrax dudes look like these days. Funny thing with Danny being 6' 5" and the rest of them all being from 5' 6" to 5' 8" that's probably why they kicked him out all those years ago because he made the rest of them look like little people. They should've hung onto 5' 1" Danny Spitz though, having him in the band made the rest them appear almost normal sized.

NP: Undergang - Misanthroplogi, Denmark 2017 

Ectoplasma - Inferna Kabbalah, Greece 2022

2 minutes ago, AlSymerz said:

Lawnmower Deth is just thrash/crossover. Probably not worlds different from all the other 80's crossover bands just they came from the UK where humour is a little different. They had silly names, sung about silly topics, did a cover of Kim Wilde's Kid's In America which was weird for a band growing up in the UK and no longer kids. They weren't particularly great at anything they did but they had fun. The reformed a few years back (even had Kim Wilde sing with them in 2015), but fat, balding, 40+ year olds (now probably 50+) don't seem to have the same amount of fun.

Reminds me of the time I saw Sacred Reich at MDF and between songs Phil apologized to the crowd for their being fat, old, ugly and uncool now. Funny part is this was a good decade ago, and he's 54 now which means he was only early/mid 40's at the time, practically still a kid. Just learned that he and I share the same birthday, just eight years apart.

Sacred Reich - Ignorance, Phoenix AZ 1987

Necrot - Lifeless Birth, Oakland CA just dropped today

4 hours ago, Yannis said:

Draconian - The Burning Halo

 

The only beauty and the beast band that I've ever really liked. I do play this record (or one of their records) once or twice a year even though to people who know me it probably wouldn't seem to be my cup of tea.

Sorry Yannis, checking the logs here it seems you have exceeded the max limit of profile pic changes for this month. Please just live with this one at least until May 1st. Thanks.

😉

Vomit - Invoker of the Past, Chile 2018

Vomit - Deathlike Vomit EP, Chile 2021

17 minutes ago, AlSymerz said:

Lawnmower Deth were joke band in the same way DRI, MOD, or any of those guys were. They fucked around on stage they never took themselves seriously and they played to whoever would listen.

Absolutely nothing wrong with that Vic. I like lots of punk and grindcore bands who fuck around and don't take themselves too seriously. Although imo some bands can take the joke too far for my delicate sensibilities. I was just curious after seeing that Ramming Speed band photo. But like I said last night, turns out they were actually pretty good. Still haven't checked out that Lawnmowercore yet though. Their silly name is keeping me from clicking on it.

49 minutes ago, Arioch said:

😲

Oh, an all-nighter then? Hang in there!

Every night's an all nighter mec. Because right around the time when I'm thinking about maybe getting ready to be sleepy I know I'm just gonna have to get up in a few at 7am to get the kid ready for the school bus so I just end up staying up. 7:40 so he's on the bus now and I've fed the cat so now I'll see if maybe I can get 2 or 3 hours of sleep...after this one last video, maybe two.

Windhand live at Saint Vitus Bar, Brooklyn NY Dec. 4th, 2016

27 minutes ago, AlSymerz said:

Ramming Speed - Doomed to Destroy, Destined to Die

Lemme guess, another joke band like Lawnmower Meth? Let's find out!

Ramming Speed Doomed to Destroy, Destined to Die/Betrayed live in Baltimore 4/26/12. No, actually they're pretty good, looks like a fun time was had by all. Too bad they broke up.

Force of Darkness live at Saint Vitus 10/9/2022. Should really be sleeping, but the alarm will be going off in 50 minutes so fuck it.

Inexistência - Extinct... (The Coming of a Cursed Age) Brazil. This is the best new black metal album I've heard this year so far. A bit long, but I'm not complaining.

1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

And what a band photo! Three of them look like school girls and the other looks like the bad dude who kidnapped them.

Protector - A Shedding of Skin, German death/thrash 1991 (I didn't even see Yannis post before I posted this)

Sarcófago - Hate, Brazil 1994

Black Ceremonial Kult - Crowned in Chaos, EP 2021 Chilean black/death

Saturnus - Death Devotion EP, Chilean black/death

Inexistência - From These Ruins Come Ancient Curses, EP Brazilian black

3 hours ago, Nasty_Cabbage said:

Well yeah. I'm familiar with some of the more moribund doxology that comes with some aspects of traditional Catholicism. It just struck me as odd because even among fervent Christians these days Dolores is something of an old lady name similar to Gretta or Ethel in terms of association. It's not that I don't expect to occasionally run into oddities when dealing with bands coming from a place where religion occupies a much more pronounced role within the culture, but it's still kind of difficult to shake the cognitive dissonance, like meeting a central American person named Jesus.

Just emailed the band, and they agreed that's gonna be the perfect title for their second album: Moribund Doxology. 

Endless Loss  - Traversing the Mephitic Artery, crusty black/death from the hellscapes of Adelaide SA

1 hour ago, Arioch said:

Krisiun - AssassiNation (2006)

I dismissed Krisiun a decade ago as being one dimensional and worthless. But in light of some of this brutal death metal I've been listening to lately, it might be time for me to revisit the Brazilian trio.

Krisiun - Southern Storm, 2008. Picked this one just because it's their highest rated full length on M-A with a 91%. Yeah as expected it's aggressive and brutal, but the songs aren't there. The solos don't seem to have any relation to the rest of the song, they're just kinda slapped on. Not nearly as bad as Deicide, I'll give 'em that. Halfway through I'll even say they're a little better than I'd remembered, but that's the only real positive thing I can say about it, I wouldn't buy this.

Iron Monkey - Spleen and Goad, 2024. Didn't realize they'd reformed in 2017.

Skuggor - Whispers of Ancient Spells, Sweden

5 hours ago, Nasty_Cabbage said:

NP: Dolorosa - Summoning Ancient Bleakness

Odd name, but memorable I suppose. Also interesting to take an older painting and make it black and white for the cover. Musically it's a quality effort without much I could really identify as a strength or a weakness.

Mater Dolorosa. Latin noun phrase: sorrowful mother — used especially for depictions of the Virgin Mary grieving over her dead son. It's an iconic thing in predominantly Catholic countries like Spain where the band is from, there are hundreds of paintings and statues of the grieving Mother Mary, "Mater Dolorosa." Literally translated the word "dolorosa" means painful. 

From Wikipedia:

Our Lady of Sorrows (Latin: Beata Maria Virgo Perdolens), Our Lady of Dolours, the Sorrowful Mother or Mother of Sorrows (Latin: Mater Dolorosa), and Our Lady of Piety, Our Lady of the Seven Sorrows or Our Lady of the Seven Dolours are names by which Mary, mother of Jesus, is referred to in relation to sorrows in life. As Mater Dolorosa, it is also a key subject for Marian art in the Catholic Church.

The Seven Sorrows of Mary are a popular religious theme and a Catholic devotion. In Christian imagery, the Virgin Mary is portrayed sorrowful and in tears, with one or seven swords piercing her heart, iconography based on the prophecy of Simeon in Luke 2:34–35. Pious practices in reference to this title include the Chaplet of the Seven Sorrows, the Seven Principal Dolors of the Blessed Virgin, the Novena in Honor of the Seven Sorrows of Mary, and the Via Matris.

The feast of Our Lady of Sorrows is liturgically celebrated every 15 September, while a feast, the Friday of Sorrows is observed in some Catholic countries.

14 hours ago, LesPero said:

Hello, im Mihael from Croatia. Just joined in, hope to meet good people here 🤘🍺

2 hours ago, Nasty_Cabbage said:

This is sort of like when I occasionally hear (usually an older person) complain about how some pundit/entertainer/whathaveyou online "talks too fast", and that you don't even have time to laugh at the jokes, accept this is like you gave that older person an rpg launcher and had to find entertaining videos for them at an acceptable speed since old man Mcgarret's known to be a little trigger happy.

We all slow down some as we age. It's just the way these things work, and for the record, most of the complaints about younger generation's lack of attention span and constant need for meaningless stimuli and it's effect on developing brains is very valid. Why you would make an insane rule like that is one question. How in the hell you intend to enforce it, though, is quite another. Maybe if they had faster music they'd be able to deploy in a timelier fashion.

Alright now Cabbage, what kind of dumbass nonsensical drivel is this?? We all slow down as we age?? Older people complain about how some people talk too fast?? Fuck you bruv, you can slow down to a crawl when you hit 40 if you like, but this old geezer's only getting leaner and meaner and faster and faster and more brutal with each passing year. By the time I'm Doc's age I'll be moving at light speed bruv, Mach 874,030. 😎

Haha but ok yeah seriously Chechnya is wack man. 80 to 116 bpm is pretty damn slow. Obviously this was a backdoor way for them to outlaw all or most forms of western popular music. Both top 40 pop music and hip-hop in particular generally have higher BPM than 116. I looked it up, one study said there are four levels of popular musical tempos. They are slow (66-76 bpm), medium (76-120 bpm), fast (120-168 bpm), and very fast (168-200 bpm). I'd think a lot of EDM would be up toward the higher end of that range, 130 to 150 bpm at least, so this must be like Footloose where they think they can protect the kids from the evils of dancing. I guess they couldn't set the upper limit too low or they'd end up outlawing all music completely, even the traditional Chechnyan stuff they want to encourage. 116 seems like a strange choice though, wonder how they arrived at that number?

3 hours ago, markm said:

How about Surge?  You guys have a lot of cross over. Where the hell is Surge, anyway?

Oh Surge!!!!

Imma start yodeling for Serge. He didn't even post his 2023 list. Sergiiiioooooo.....yodelayheehoo!!! (silence)

Sergio, Sergio, Wherefore art Thou, Sergio (nothing)

Sergio, come out and Plaaaay!!!

This is an extremely sad state of affairs. Maybe I'll do a Surge rain dance or make a Surge cupie doll or get out my Surgi crystals. 

 

 

Haha Surge is still alive, I just saw him post a pic of the eclipse obscured by clouds yesterday on the 13 man txt thread we're both a part of. But he doesn't really pop in there so much anymore and neither do I really. I spend more time here. He threw in the towel on his former commercial carpet cleaning business a couple of years ago and went out and earned himself a high falutin college degree. So now he's joined the actual smart people workforce and he doesn't seem to have the same kind of free time like he once used to. I'm sure he still posts on a metal forum somewhere like NCS probably, but I don't have to tell you there are only so many hours in a day for this shit.

Surge and I do have a reasonable amount of overlap musically, but his tastes seems to be just as specific as mine if not even more so, just in slightly different areas. So like we both consume a ton of black metal, but I'm more into caustic riffy Norsecore, Finnblack, first wave influenced stuff as well as black/death & war metal while he seems to be super into that fuzzily produced atmo-black right on the edge of lo-fi and some folk metal. We definitely like some of each other's stuff, we do both dig a bunch of the Finnish bands I think, but I think he and I are mainly focused in different areas and probably out hunting for different shit.

Same with death metal, he goes more for the mid-paced Swedeath, Bolt Thrower and European style bands, some Chilean death, classic death/doom and maybe some more melodic Amon Amarth type viking stuff, while I cast a somewhat wider death metal net. I like all that kind of stuff he likes as well, (not the Amon Amarth so much) but I do also tend to go more for the ugly brulal and putrid caverncore, Incantation clones and more recently I've been getting into a ton of deathgrind and old late 90's/early 00's era BDM. Mortician, Malignancy, Suffocation, Exhumed, Devourment, Deranged stuff like that which I don't think he has much interest in if any. I didn't either tbh just a few years ago, but this is where my natural progression of heaviness has taken me. Seems I need it heavier and heavier and ever more brutal to get the same high off of it if ya know what I mean.

Besides the black and death metal I know he dips his tootsies into stuff like modern day heavy metal and thrash which I have little to no interest in (unless it's been very heavily blackened) while as you probably know I'm heavily into grindcore, hardcore, punk rock, and of course boatloads of crust and stenchore, which I don't think he's too interested in. So you can see when you drill down a bit and take core samples there's not as much crossover between us cool cats as one might think.

So sure, to the uninitiated we would both appear to be mostly into black and death metal, same basic shit, right? And it's also true we do both have a strong aversion to prog, hipster black, tech death and twinkcore. But to the well traveled extreme metal connoisseur he and I actually have somewhat different and pretty clearly defined tastes. We could both make top 25 year end lists and only have maybe 4 or 5 albums in common. There I go overexplaining again. Sorry dude, I know you don't read anything I write that's more than 3 paragraphs and that was just 5.