Daniel Wse Whitfield

Girl drummers are quite rare. I personally don't know many and the ones I do, don't make it into my top numbers. Bit of trivia on me. I met my Fiance when I was younger at a gig, she was the drummer for one of the bands we were playing with. She was one of the only Female drummers I've actually ever came in contact with. (She is now not a drummer) No one can doubt the ability of a female drummer, or that they could play at the same standard as a Male drummer. I do believe there will be some disadvantage for a good majority of Female drummers. Metal Drumming is a stamina, power instrument. Naturally (Not all) males have got more of a powerful build,at least to start with. I'm guessing this can help? I like some of what ICine is saying. I think Females in bands can be used as gimmicks, I also think its more beneficial having a Female at the front of the stage and especially singing. I believe they may enjoy this aspect more as well. This would explain not wanting to go near the back of the stage? If I turned up to a show and there was a female drummer in another band, I'd probably imagine her being amazing. They are so rare, they can only be amazing if they are playing more seriously at a semipro/pro level. I'd most certainly be sticking around to see her. Its nice to see someone so enthusiastic and interested though. I wish you all the luck.

Deftones by far. System of a Down are fantastic, one of my favorites. I don't know if they could be classed in this genre though. They are a hard one to nail down.

I agree pete had some great lyrics. I do believe they take some getting used to.

Yeah, plenty of overpriced Bentleys here In England. Give me a Lexus over a Bentley any day. Built to be just as luxurious, smaller price tag, More for your money.

Exodus covered that song without making it sound like ass... Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

Muscle cars for me. Probably because i live in England and we done have any.

'The darker side of metal'? Definitely not. Not with bands like Anorexia Nervosa' date=' Carach Angren, Manticora, Furia and Evoken on the circuit they aren't.[/quote'] May of taken that a tad literal

I've been getting the same thing. I just refresh a few times and all is well with the world.

No being mainstream in and of itself does not make a band over-rated. Being unimaginative and receiving high praise for it however does. As for your view on bands being over-rated am I to understand that you feel bands who make no effort to gain widespread popularity should be considered over-rated?

I like Bandcamp, they only take 15% of digital download sales. Spotify gives you far less and they're a sneaky little app. I think the industry poisoned itself by being way too fat for way too long. The combination of the internet and readily available recording equipment is awesome to me, though now the problem isn't finding music to listen to, it's dealing with the glut of music at our fingertips. I do pay for downloads on Bandcamp, when I like the band. I rarely buy CDs but I'll do it to support an artist I really like. Wout, why do you delete MP3s after buying the CD? I always rip my CDs to MP3 or FLAC so I can listen to them on my computer/phone, most of the CDs I've bought in the past few years have been played once if at all.

Check out my Bandcamp page' date=' there's a link in my sig. I just put a new album out a month ago. Also, I'm remixing the older one up there to get it professionally mastered - I got the new one mastered and it sounds great.[/quote'] I have a mate who would love that. Personally a bit more death than I'm used too. I'll give it a more extensive listen when i get time.

When do they let you out?

The band okay. I own Ashes of the Wake. I actually like the self titled song and Laid to Rest and the last song... Remorse if for the Dead I believe. But it's some of the fans who think they're gods. Just see how this thread started with one of those fan boys.

Cheers. I love writing songs' date=' and I enjoy talking about songwriting. Good luck.[/quote'] Thanks mate, you sound like you have a good ear. A guy you need round you in pre-prod. Do you have any recorded music?

Of course - I do the same thing, I draw from a lot of influences and play music that I'd like to listen to. Keeping in mind that I only heard that one song, though, it didn't sound that varied to me - I heard djenty stuff and melodic metalcore. I'll have to listen to your other tracks at some point for a more well-rounded opinion. This cuts both ways. It's good to have varied tastes in a group, and it's good to not feel confined by what other bands are doing, but there's no reason to think that listening to more metal would make you play things in a more "standard" way. I'm willing to bet there's a good amount of stuff that would inspire you and broaden your horizons. I tend to prefer accurate drummers who play for the song, and know how to give parts the right "feel". I don't think you're doing a bad job at that, by any means. I don't mean "technical" in the sense of flashy, tech-death, deathcore, what-have-you. I'm not saying play more notes or faster riffs or put in more sweep-picking. I hate most of that shit. What I mean by "technical ambition" is that I think you should make your parts more involved. You go through a lot of riffs, but the riffs themselves don't develop internally; does that make sense? When you feel that it's time for a change, you just go into a new part, rather than elaborating on what you're already doing. Part of that is compositional taste, but there's potential in your riffs that you're not exploring. Which ties into my other gripe - since you have some melodic parts and some intricate stuff surrounding all of these breakdowns, and especially since most of the vocal parts happen during the breakdowns, it makes the other parts (to me, the potentially interesting parts) sound like they're just tacked on. They don't feel like they mean business. The meat, the main focus, is the breakdowns. Breakdowns get pretty boring after a while. Being simple and effective is a great goal, but it's easy to be simple without being effective, and a lot of that effectiveness will come from more focused songwriting. The structure you have here starts out strong, and moves forward well, but doesn't help any of the parts to stand out. I'm not saying you have to write a catchy chorus; I stay away from choruses myself. But tightening up the composition would help for it to feel like it had more of a point.

Bacause quite a lot of people rate them highly' date=' eventhough I think they are a so-so mainstream band.[/quote'] I understand how overrated works, I disagree that all the people who rate them are wrong. Being Mainstream does not make you overrated. Being able to make music which is unpopular, mainstreak is something to respect. Especially if you just make music with the tools you are given within your genre. A band who makes music that is unpopular with toold from other genres that will carry the unpopular section of their music, should be looked down on and classed as "Over Rated" I believe lamb Of God Should be rated highly.

I have on 3" disc' date=' but you can play them also in quite some cd players.Are here people who decide to pay for mp3s btw? I have over 1000 bands on my computer without paying for it (I delete all the mp3s of all the cds and records I own). So I guess if I used Itunes, I would have payed a lot of money for it, if I could find the stuff in the first place.So why are there people paying for digital files that are all over the internet?[/quote'] Obviously the internet has both helped with promotion but poisoned the music industry. I personally don't know many people who buy digital. I use Spotify, at least some money goes to the artist. Its the price of buying 1 album a month and you get to listen to as much music online and offline that you like. I love CD's and I will buy them occasionally but its hard knowing you can get it for free. Its just a pitty that it can happen.

Sounds like an awesome idea. Would need to be aware of time differences though.

I think it's always going to be difficult for someone who's not into a particular style to comment objectively on a band that plays in said genre, and the result is often that the person's advice involves changing the musical style to something more to their taste. Not every band has to, or indeed can, be wholly original and I suspect that, if your band played a style more popular here, say progressive death metal, you probably wouldn't have been advised not to 'settle for fitting into a genre'. Modern metalcore, melodic metalcore, whatever you wanna call it, is pretty unpopular here, so this is a barrier you're probably going to continue to face, unfortunately. I do like my fair share of metalcore (both of the melodic and more extreme/underground varieties) and quite enjoyed the track. It didn't strike me as generic As I Lay Dying/Killswitch Engage worship. I could hear how, as you say, you guys like a variety of music and, whilst I'd definitely call it melodic metalcore, I could also hear some LOG/Machine Head-style groove metal influences and even a little death metal. There's some good riffs in there as well. I wouldn't say I loved it but there's definitely more going on here than a lot of young bands in a 'similar' style. I agree with Father's comments about the 2 different vocalists and you could expand this to make something pretty cool.

noticed we don't have one of these so here's a place to talk about all those great things on the tv past and present and I'll start by saying how fucking brilliant is Game Of Thrones

Born of Osiris - The Discovery Album

I don't mean to fire back what seems an answer to everything you commented on. I respect and value everything you said. I'm not defending, I'm just explaining. Believe it or not his vocals are his own. Hes not trying to be anything, that's just the way he has always done it, liked doing it and basically built his voice up. We have other tracks and if you listen back through our small back catalogue you will hear him experiment adding more lows, or just going full highs. This is what he has came to know and love. A mix of both. As for the music, I of course I will disagree, though I cant see many points in my band where we stick to any sort of traditional pattern. We have aspects of all types of metal, obviously its hard to be complete original and you can only really play what you enjoy to hear. Our songs are packed with plenty of different styles and that is mostly down to the range of music we all listen to. I personally listen to Very little metal in comparison with the rest of my band. I believe examples like this give us another edge to play with, as I have no actual idea what things "must" sound like, which I think gives us more of a distinctive sound, less generic. I believe we sit somewhere between Simple but effective and overly technical. Interesting sections, though some slow, simple parts that just make you bob your head. Too technical, you are trying too hard to be others who try too hard. Too Simple and you end up being called lazy or generic, or mainstream. Smack Damn in the middle where you play what you want, from any of the things above is exactly where I want to stay. I agree with out performance. I'm not happy with the video, it was more just something to help promote the song. Its a simple performance video on the cheap basically.

The irony of this thread being chock-full of promotional posts is almost too much to bear.

Don't worry guys, I'll be sticking around... ..Though at first this may seem a positive. I'm sure within the week you will be wishing me away. All part of my plan.

Thank you for the opinion, i appreciate it. I will be taking on board what you said about the Dissonance. Obviously we are in a genre that is stuck at all sounding very uninteresting and similar. We try not to think of anything when writing, just what we feel is right. or what we enjoy. We have older stuff also on spotify/youtube. We have changed direction quite a bit recently. If you have the time, check them out. Its interesting to see the path we have made to get to the style we are now. Thanks again.