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Rap as an art form is grievously limited by the fact that most of the dilemmas in the songs presented can be solved with money. This might seem like a lousy complaint, but I have been watching a number of videos evaluating different rap songs, and I know that rap is judged on 3 things: 1: Beat 2: Flow 3: Lyrics It's this last that often really kills it, because even at its very most thoughtful rap tends to discuss mainly themes on poverty. Even the best rappers, like Notorious B.I.G. and 2-Pac, tended to stick to this theme. This is fine, but it doesn't really communicate the kind of problems people have in life. It shows a certain short-sightedness that I don't find in metal. Not only that, but the first two criteria are a given for metal artists - so much so that they've ventured into more interesting rhythmic territory, which I doubt rap will do or has ever done to any great extent. I would like to see someone try to rap to Meshuggah, it'd probably be difficult. My point is that I don't really appreciate rap as an art form on its own because it's got nothing really unique to it that puts it above other genres for me. That said, (later) Eminem and Macklemore are both kind of fun because they don't always seem to be taking themselves too seriously and instead allow one to simply focus on how well they fulfill the criterion for rap because of their humorous lyrics.

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I've never liked rap' date=' but have recently opened my mind up to being able to enjoy some of the older stuff. I still know nearly nothing about it though.[/quote'] Gee, I don't know how to take this. It seems like this might me a music genre that...I actually know more about than you do? :P Well, that and boeretroos. But that doesn't really count. I learned incidentally by watching the Rap Critic and ToddInTheShadows, both entertaining music reviewers. I'd glad I did, because now I understand exactly how awful popular music really is much of the time.
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I dislike a lot of rap lyrics' date=' they are sexist and childish. For instance, 50 cent once wrote a song called "Have a baby by me, be a millionaire". I thought the Dark Ages were over :/ .[/quote'] Definitely more of a pop rapper, you get more lyrical depth from non pop artists in any case. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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I dislike a lot of rap lyrics' date=' they are sexist and childish. For instance, 50 cent once wrote a song called "Have a baby by me, be a millionaire". I thought the Dark Ages were over :/ .[/quote'] A ha ha ha. That is far from being the worst one. 'Bedrock' by Young Money is pretty awful. 'Turn My Swag On' by Soulja Boy definitely ranks as one of the downright stupidest songs I've ever heard. Kanye West's work is also remarkably stupid. I also understand exactly why people hate Chris Brown, he really is one of the worst artists out. I need to show you something...I just need to take a while to find it on Memecenter. nicki-and-marlin_o_1209629.jpg
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This also outlines some of the shortcomings of the genre. music-2013_c_1078365.jpg

Sticky Mingenaj is stupid
That nickname implies that someone would actually want to engage in coitus with that bizarre organism.
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haha' date=' yeah, what about Stinky Mingenaj? lol[/quote'] I understand what you're trying to do but you need to keep the cadence of her name in order for it to be pithy and witty. For example, try "Wheelie Binaj", or "Nasty Dinaj". Alternatively, use her surname as part of a larger word, as in "Icky Minajerie". Tune in next week for another exciting episode of "Formulating Wit" with Iceni The Pedantic.
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This also outlines some of the shortcomings of the genre. music-2013_c_1078365.jpg That nickname implies that someone would actually want to engage in coitus with that bizarre organism.
Lil Wayne is shit. He's to hip-hop what Limp Bizkit is to metal. If you want some rap with unorthodox lyrics, check out Dr. Octagon: tjKHQeRSvjk V9VYzNUXGDA
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Lil Wayne is shit. He's to hip-hop what Limp Bizkit is to metal.
I do know that now, but the thing is, his lyrics are not that different from the better rappers. He's just very publicly idiotic, so he gets flak. As I said before, I know there are rappers who do rap well, but the art form is flawed. Nate Dogg comes off as highly masculine and possessed of a powerful charm. Still, the fact remains that he seems to sing about the same subjects as other rappers. These lyrics - the ones from Dr. Octagon - are much more interesting. It's like a rap version of Viraemia or Nocturnus. The beat of the second song struck me as a bit weak, but the first one is fine.
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most of the dilemmas in the songs presented can be solved with money.
Screw the rules I have money. hooray for obscure internet references also in my experience rap and hip hop suck. That isn't to say that all rap and hip hop sucks because I haven't heard every single artist in this genre and therefore it would be a fallacy of generalisation on my part to suggest this.
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:D:D well I'm not a fan and so many words confuse me and I genuinly dislike the style even if lyrics were better. However I have to say that rap in Bulgaria focuses less on poverty and more on politics, corruption, abusing with power, and criticizes the "mafia" way of life as well as freedom&travelling. But that's just one band I know.
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When you start exploring a bit, you find out there is more to rap music than what we hear on the radio or mtv. Most of those "artist" that we are suffocated by suck, but there are those who actually do something good and have lyrics that don't talk about bitches and money. Like Tech N9ne. I like Tech n9ne. :)

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