Inter-metal hate

[BlutAusNerd]

Re: Inter-metal hate

I don't care if someone likes As I Lay Dying and Insomnium. What annoys me is when people who only listen to As I Lay Dying and Avenged Sevenfold pretend to be metalheads. I listened to a 'metal' station in New Jersey and it was all Avenged Sevenfold ripoffs except for one song by Death, which was of course by a long shot the best thing they played. The problem is that fans of only A7X and the like sap the vitality of the art by trying to cash in on the badass rebel image and ultimately failing because they are every bit as shallow and commercial as the pop and rap fans they claim to hate. People then understandably get the impression that metalheads are simply lying to the world about what they feel and are ultimately, in the final analysis, a bunch of lonely, whiny white boys who don't get laid enough.

That's my main problem with it, the misrepresentation of bands like this as metal bands by mainstream music media and stores like Hot Topic. Everything speaks to people in different ways musically, so listen if it does something for you, but I believe in calling a spade a spade. On the other hand though, I know that metal has always been and will always be misrepresented by pop culture, and have stopped caring what they have to say about my tastes. As much as I know that people are ill-informed, I can still get annoyed by them trying to classify my tastes with mainstream bullshit when they know nothing about it. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

[Hatter]

The problem is that fans of only A7X and the like sap the vitality of the art by trying to cash in on the badass rebel image and ultimately failing because they are every bit as shallow and commercial as the pop and rap fans they claim to hate. People then understandably get the impression that metalheads are simply lying to the world about what they feel and are ultimately' date=' in the final analysis, a bunch of lonely, whiny white boys who don't get laid enough.[/quote'] This is exactly what pisses me off. I generally don't care what other people listen to, it's the image I hate. I know people who wear band shirts, even if it's only A7X or Slipknot but have no clue about the actual band. I have no problem with whatever people want to listen to if the music means something to them, no matter what I think, but when these shallow 'fans' claim to be metalheads because they have a fucking t-shirt..... ahhh

[RelentlessOblivion]

agree there, and when people say "you don't know what real metal is" because you're wearing a Slayer t-shirt??? shut the fuck up you're wearing a black label society shirt, and then can't name any songs by the band on Iceni's radio point I've found a brilliant station called Evil Broadcasting, so far today they've played Overkill, Morbid Angel, Children Of Bodom, Trouble, Belphegor and actually this song is their first miss of the day, Fear Factory

[BlutAusNerd]

Re: Inter-metal hate Must not have been old Fear Factory, Soul of a New Machine is pretty good. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

[RelentlessOblivion]

dunno what era FF it was I just didn't like it

[H34VYM3T4LD4V3]

Re: Inter-metal hate

dunno what era FF it was I just didn't like it

Fear factory was on CARMAGEDDON!!!

[BlutAusNerd]

My favorite era of Fear Factory: FEy_GshX6ag

[gus666]

Not really' date=' it's more like having Discharge open for Blind Guardian. I love both bands, but seeing them at the same show would not only be weird, they would destroy the mood for each other. I love to listen to both of them, but the emotions they voice through their music are completely different and have vastly different approaches and atmospheres. I would love to see both of them, but not at the same gig.[/quote'] There's been stranger line-ups at gigs before. This is from 1980. Have to say Bushell was bang-on about U2!!!

[BlutAusNerd]

That is a bizarre bill indeed.

[Driller Killer]

Hating a genre means on some levels using your mental energy to dislike people that listen to it. I used to do that when I was younger, now I use the best power ever: the power of ignoring. Two steps: 1. I give it a chance. 2. If I don't like it, I'll ignore it from now on.

[The Strategos]

Wise words, Driller Killer!

[BlutAusNerd]

Re: Inter-metal hate Yeah, I realized a while ago that it's a waste of energy to promote hate for stuff you don't like. I would rather promote stuff I do like, in hopes of converting people that don't know that there is better stuff out there. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

[gus666]

Hating a genre means on some levels using your mental energy to dislike people that listen to it. I used to do that when I was younger, now I use the best power ever: the power of ignoring. Two steps: 1. I give it a chance. 2. If I don't like it, I'll ignore it from now on.

Driller, when you say 'genre' do you mean metal genres, as in this discussion, or do you mean genre in general (like dance/indie etc)?

[NTNR]

I can't stand the core shit. It's shit. None of it's metal it's just punk trying to be Swedish and failing at it. I hate that it came from America and that it's so popular. I do however love 80's Hair Metal. Those bands have more to them than any core band ever, both in terms of song writing and musicianship. So, it takes all kinds.

[RelentlessOblivion]

Driller not necessarily, it is possible to hate, or intensely dislike, a genre without hating those who listen to it, for example I hate core bands perhaps more then NTNR, but I don't hate it's fans, I pity them in fact, having no musical taste whatsoever is quite a sad thing to behold, and it's obvious because if those people did have any taste in music at all they wouldn't be -core fans and those shitty "genres" could be taken out back, shot in the head and buried deep down in the earth where no one could ever reach them

[The Strategos]

Driller not necessarily' date=' it is possible to hate, or intensely dislike, a genre without hating those who listen to it, for example I hate core bands perhaps more then NTNR, but I don't hate it's fans, I pity them in fact, having no musical taste whatsoever is quite a sad thing to behold, and it's obvious because if those people did have any taste in music at all they wouldn't be -core fans and those shitty "genres" could be taken out back, shot in the head and buried deep down in the earth where no one could ever reach them[/quote'] I love some metalcore bands and I don't see what is wrong with the genre. Taking BFMV for example, those dude work bloody hard day and night to musically get where they wanted to get. As to taste, well, I think I have reasonably taste and I have a huge range of "proper" metal bands in my collection. I tend to go with what Henry Wood said, that all music is there to be enjoyed. Also, it is interesting to note that when Tchaikovsky started to write music everybody told him his music was rubbish and not properly classical, a view point nobody would dare take these days.

[RelentlessOblivion]

all metalcore and deathcore sounds exactly the same, it's sterile music with no passion, every bfmv song ever follows the same formula: generic melodeath verse with alternating (bad) harsh and clean vocals, generic pop chorus, boring three chord breakdown, attempted solo, repeat as needed, I'm sorry strat but that's how I see it and I'm starting to be a bit of an asshole because I'm sick to death of these bands being mentioned in the same breath as Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden and Judas Priest, I feel the same way about nu metal, everything else though is really just different people liking different things but hey just 'cause I don't like something doesn't mean no one should

[H34VYM3T4LD4V3]

Re: Inter-metal hate

all metalcore and deathcore sounds exactly the same' date=' it's sterile music with no passion, every bfmv song ever follows the same formula: generic melodeath verse with alternating (bad) harsh and clean vocals, generic pop chorus, boring three chord breakdown, attempted solo, repeat as needed, I'm sorry strat but that's how I see it and I'm starting to be a bit of an asshole because I'm sick to death of these bands being mentioned in the same breath as Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden and Judas Priest, I feel the same way about nu metal, everything else though is really just different people liking different things but hey just 'cause I don't like something doesn't mean no one should[/quote'] tbh i completely agree with you.

[The Strategos]

Well, I sure as hell don't want to cause a row so I'll just stop .

[RelentlessOblivion]

you won't cause a fight mate, it's all opinions after all and yours is just as valid as anyone elses, I'm just a bit cranky

[Iceni]

Beneath The Massacre is OK. I'm not a big fan of their stuff but it definitely isn't to sneeze at. Metalcore only ever sounds good when it's doing what melodeath does much better, in my opinion. Every single solitary element of BFMV's music is executed more capably and with much more class by Dark Tranquillity.

[The Strategos]

you won't cause a fight mate' date=' it's all opinions after all and yours is just as valid as anyone elses, I'm just a bit cranky[/quote'] Thanks mate !

[RelentlessOblivion]

so far as inter-metal hate is concerned I think it is largely long term fans who despise the perceived scene-kids who (despite what Rob Zombie thinks) are capable of being Slayer "fans" one summer and the next listening to dubstep, we don't see metal as a casual music, it's something you live not just something you listen to so of course bands that are facilitating this attitude will attract a great deal of disdain from the metal community at large.

[That Dude With The Shades]

I like bands from every subgenre of metal, though I generally stay away from death metal and deathcore. I am kind of angry that so many bands took influence from Pantera's pseudo-macho alcoholic metal, yet the influence of the excellent, psychedelic White Zombie has been very minimal.

[Iceni]

I like bands from every subgenre of metal' date=' though I generally stay away from death metal[/quote'] Tech-death, perhaps?