Anti Nu-Metal

[Atrocity]

Well I suppose metal did start as a louder version of rock, but I think a lot changed so it can't still be defined with those words. Yea, let's blame Fred Durst for everything

[RelentlessOblivion]

I'll stick with metalhead. It's not all I listen to but "metal, prog rock, classic rock, blues, flamenco, jazz, middle-eastern folk and classical-head" is much too long to say.

[JBaker]

I think that oversimplifies things too much. There are so many aspects of metal that comprise the foundation of the genre. To say in essence it's louder' date=' more abrasive rock music doesn't accurately reflect the complexities of the genre. Though it's a fair description of Motorhead.[/quote'] Yeah, I see your point. But, how else would you define metal then? I feel, on the internet, we spend lots of time defining what metal isn't, but it's pretty hard to define what it actually is. What really separates metal from the more aggressive offshoots of punk is the aesthetics and I suppose you could say metal has more of an elaborate song structure, but that would then exclude bands like Motorhead and Slayer...

[RelentlessOblivion]

I think metal is hard to define because the genre is in a permanent state of flux. It's far easier to define a genre which has basically cemented a set of rules (i.e. punk) then to define one which is constantly changing. Metal has been around for some forty years now and has survived that long because it evolves with each new generation.

[deathstorm]

What do you think is next evolving form. Deathcore. What will next. Thing after that ?

[JBaker]

'Trancecore' seems to be the big one now. Deathcore was so 2009, dude.

[Sinful Tranquility]

Hahaha JBaker Crazy Town, can't believe I used to like their song Butterfly

[JBaker]

Hahaha JBaker Crazy Town' date=' can't believe I used to like their song Butterfly[/quote'] 'Used to'... Don't lie now.

[Atrocity]

'Used to'... Don't lie now.

I'm still happy when I hear it, it reminds me of my childhood I used to watch MTV and wait for that song to play. Rammstein released the video for Sonne at that time, that video scared me but I always had to watch it.

[JBaker]

I'm still happy when I hear it' date=' it reminds me of my childhood I used to watch MTV and wait for that song to play. Rammstein released the video for Sonne at that time, that video scared me but I always had to watch it. [/quote'] So, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you then? I'm 19 and think I was still a 'wee little babber' when that came out!

[Atrocity]

So' date=' if you don't mind me asking, how old are you then? I'm 19 and think I was still a 'wee little babber' when that came out![/quote'] I'll be 24 in 2 months

[NWOBHM]

No. It's a steaming pile of shit.

[Sinful Tranquility]

Atrocity, that will have to be a new thread I post, what metal video scared you when you were a kid? It will be up soon!

[BlutAusNerd]

Re: Nu Metal (Yes/no)

Yeah' date=' I agree. It is more than louder guitars, but the basic concept of metal being a louder, harsher, more aggressive rock is fairly true, I feel. That's how the first metal band, Black Sabbath, found their 'niche'. And 'heavy metal' was used as a derogatory term by rock critics at the time to categorise their sound; one reviewer basically said 'this is unlistenable... like a load of heavy metal crashing down'.[/quote'] The problem with this is that while it could technically be accurate for the roots of heavy metal (as well as punk and other genres), it's a gross oversimplification, and it misses the most important features of differentiation. Even early on, heavy metal was darker and more personal than rock, the louder nature of the guitars were more a consequence of this than an attempt to set themselves apart. There were also different chord progressions used, and a heightened emphasis on a larger, more involved sound in general. I've said it before and I'll say it again, screeched vocals and blastbeats aren't black metal, chugging downtuned guitars and guttural vocals aren't death metal, feedback isn't sludge, syncopated palm muted guitars aren't thrash, dragons and double bass drums aren't power metal, etc... People often mistake common techniques used by some (certainly not all) of the more popular artists of any given genre as some kind of requirement, which to me seems quite detrimental and adds to the sterility and lack of originality of future bands. When these sounds were created, there weren't limits or rules, so trying to conform to their standards when they were breaking new ground seems pointless. It also makes it easier to try to revise the history of any given sound, as if Black Sabbath's sounds are the only foundation for heavy metal looked at, bands like Scorpions, Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, etc... are relegated to a "lesser status". Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

[MacabreEternal]

Love this thread is in Deep and Meaningful and is Do You Like Nu-Metal, yes or no! Intense man, real intense.

[MacabreEternal]

p.s no i don't

[BlutAusNerd]

Re: Nu Metal (Yes/no)

Love this thread is in Deep and Meaningful and is Do You Like Nu-Metal, yes or no! Intense man, real intense.

Well, a simple yes/no question is about as deep as nu-metal could possibly merit, hence my one word answer. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

[FatherAlabaster]

Do we need a separate subforum for the "Shallow And Inessential"? ...oh wait, that's the "Promote Your Band" area.

[Iceni]

Love this thread is in Deep and Meaningful and is Do You Like Nu-Metal, yes or no! Intense man, real intense.

Yeah, I was going to ask the same question.

[JBaker]

Do we need a separate subforum for the "Shallow And Inessential"?...oh wait' date=' that's the "Promote Your Band" area.[/quote']Ouch!You're awful.

[FatherAlabaster]

You're awful.

You're welcome. I take pride in my work...

[Sinful Tranquility]

I only put this in deep and meaningful, because I felt as though it could connect everyone's thoughts together and when you look into Nu-Metal you very often find yourself delving deep into the information, so that is why I see it as deep and meaningful.

[~Mere~]

Yes and no. But with just like any other sub genre of metal there is stuff I like and stuff I don't. However, I think that out of any other sub genre, Nu Metal and its fans receive the most scrutiny. And why is it called Nu Metal anyway? Does it mean, Do Not File Under Metal (kidding!)

[H34VYM3T4LD4V3]

Re: Nu Metal (Yes/no)

I used to like Static-X and Rob Zombie's first albums

Is Rob Zombie really classified as Nu Metal? I thought he was more Industrial, anyways I like him and White Zombie.

[M07H]

these nu-metal bands are pretty mainstream, it seems that every forum i visit, they are the most popular mentioned (besides the post-hardcore tween stuff like Sleeping with Sirens and Black Veil Brides). I'm a fan of Slipknot, at least of their early albums, and Vol. 3, but I don't listen to them much anymore. I used to be into Linkin Park in middle school. They have since changed their sound, and i have no interest in what they are putting out now. Deftones are my favorite nu-metal band (even though I don't see them as nu-metal). I have never been into SOAD much, there are a couple of songs that i like, Question! and Prison Song are my favorites. I used to be really into Disturbed, as well. I have 4 of their albums but I don't listen to them at all anymore. Device is David Draiman's new project. Sounds good, but I can't get into them. I still listen to Marilyn Manson frequently, but i'm more into his older music. I can't stomach Limp Bizkit.